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    Pretty much what i suspected where the sticking point would be. Also think Spurs were cagey about the extension money KD was demanding giving his reliability issues the past two seasons. Not bothered at all we missed out given where this team stands right now
    Like I said in my earlier post, getting Harper helps but I really wish we could offload some of our deadweight players (mostly Vassell.) anyway it’s not like the offseason actually started yet.

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    This was always bound to happen. The Rockets always had a better offer than the Spurs (10th pick > 14th pick and Green plus Brooks > Vassell plus Keldon/ Barnes).

    The Spurs, IMO, must now focus on getting Cam Johnson by trading away Keldon Johnson and prising out Kristaps Porzingis from a desperate Celtics through trading Barnes out. The Nets can facilitate both these transactions for the 14th pick and retaining its own pick that might have to trade for Keldon, while the Spurs can get the Boston pick while giving up the 38th pick.

    Out - Keldon, Barnes (Nets, both), Branham (Celtics)
    In - Cam Johnson, Porzingis, Ryan Kalkbrenner as the 27th pick. The Spurs can also try to sign Yabuschele with a portion of the MLE.

    Fox, Harper, Wesley
    Castle, Vassell
    Cam Johnson, Champagnie
    Sochan, Yabuschele, Mamu
    Wemby, Porzingis, Kalkbrenner

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    I hate to say it but this is a great win for Houston. Getting rid of Jalen Green is probably a positive in and of itself, regardless of who is replacing him. Getting rid of Brooks opens up more minutes for Eason who is a much better player anyways. There will be good prospects on the board at #10 but Houston is in position to make a push and I don’t blame them for opting to go all-in.

    Let’s really hope Vassell/Sochan/whoever we pick at 14 turn out to be worth it. Obviously still plenty of opportunities for us to still make moves this offseason so we’ll see what happens.
    I still think their offer was significantly better than ours:

    10 >14
    Green (former Nº2 pick) > Vassell
    Brooks > Keldon/Barnes/Sochan
    5 SRP (most likely higher number than Spurs would be willing to send)

    A very logical prize to pay for a second seed starving for scoring punch; not so much for the Spurs..

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    I’m ecstatic. We kept the other picks from the Suns, got rid of Green, and kept Jabari.
    Good for you, not even gonna trash talk here cause your team is legit. Some Spurs fans are being too overconfident for a team that has missed the playoffs this entire decade so far. We still have some work to do and that is making sure our star player can even stay healthy long term.

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    I just didn't want to be stuck with a vessel and to a lesser extent Sochan. Oh well, hopefully they get their together this season and play wining basketball.

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    To be fair if I'm the Suns, I'm taking Green over Vassell so can't blame the Spurs. It's not like the Spurs didn't try too much but at the end of the day, it's still the Suns' choice which was reported that they wanted 2nd Overall Pick or Castle. Surprised they gave Brooks instead of Eason though and I'm glad it's over but would've been better if Durant went to Spurs esp. for Wemby's development and the chance to play with his idol.

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    Highly unlikely but would be hilarious if KD held off on that extension and the Rockets wound up having a disastrous season and he walked to the Spurs in Free Agency next year for free.

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    This was always bound to happen. The Rockets always had a better offer than the Spurs (10th pick > 14th pick and Green plus Brooks > Vassell plus Keldon/ Barnes).

    The Spurs, IMO, must now focus on getting Cam Johnson by trading away Keldon Johnson and prising out Kristaps Porzingis from a desperate Celtics through trading Barnes out. The Nets can facilitate both these transactions for the 14th pick and retaining its own pick that might have to trade for Keldon, while the Spurs can get the Boston pick while giving up the 38th pick.

    Out - Keldon, Barnes (Nets, both), Branham (Celtics)
    In - Cam Johnson, Porzingis, Ryan Kalkbrenner as the 27th pick. The Spurs can also try to sign Yabuschele with a portion of the MLE.

    Fox, Harper, Wesley
    Castle, Vassell
    Cam Johnson, Champagnie
    Sochan, Yabuschele, Mamu
    Wemby, Porzingis, Kalkbrenner
    No way to Porzingis. Dude had some weird ass area 51 illness that kept him out last year and when he did play he was ass

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    Yeah we weren’t beating that tbh

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    I liked the Durant fit on paper but dude is a culture killer and I don't think is what a team gunning for their first playoff appearance in 7 years wants. Unless Giannis comes available, draft Harper, get a Capela type at backup C, and make a Cam Johnson-esque trade and that's the opening of our window.

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    I hope the Spurs can trade Johnson + 14 on Draft Night for a player that can help.

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    As a Spursfan, #14 is back on the menu!

    A little exciting after weeks of not really expecting to keep #14 now the pick is interesting again.
    SpursTalk gonna lose its when we pick another guard at 14.

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    What a tease

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    At least he mentioned us

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    Will this change the trajectory for the Spurs pushing it next season or will they make it another season of development?

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    Watch the Suns trade away that #10 to get rid of Beal.

    Shams: Heat wouldn't include Jaime Jaquez Jr., Nikola Jovic, Haywood Highsmith, No. 20 pick or other draft assets in deal for Kevin Durant.
    Sons

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    also phoenix

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    Shows you how Assell is when he’s outbidded by Jalen Green lol

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    I still think their offer was significantly better than ours:

    10 >14
    Green (former Nº2 pick) > Vassell
    Brooks > Keldon/Barnes/Sochan
    5 SRP (most likely higher number than Spurs would be willing to send)

    A very logical prize to pay for a second seed starving for scoring punch; not so much for the Spurs..
    I agree - I think in order for us to make up the gap of 10/Green vs. 14/Vassell we would’ve almost had to include another FRP and/or potentially valuable piece like Sochan. I don’t blame SA for not wanting to do that, but just sucks to see my least favorite team in the league land KD for relatively little.

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    Terrible news for the Spurs. For those thinking that KD would stunt development, the friendship crew will do the same. An in-division rival got considerably better while we remain the same (but with two new rookies coming in). OKC's nucleus now has finals experience, Houston has playoff experience and is adding an elite player who's a two-time champion (while also keeping PHX's future). Dallas is adding Flagg. What does the playoff picture look like?

    Top 6
    OKC
    HOU
    MIN
    DEN
    LAC
    LAL/DAL (assuming health)

    Play in
    SAS
    LAL/DAL
    GSW
    MEM

    Could easily see a scenario where the Spurs get the 9th seed and get bounced from the play in tournament.

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    Like I said in my earlier post, getting Harper helps but I really wish we could offload some of our deadweight players (mostly Vassell.) anyway it’s not like the offseason actually started yet.
    Hope he doesn't think his ass was saved after . Banes brought 5 FRPs (factoring the bad contracts taken, let's say 3 unprotected FRPs), surely Spurs can still get a good FRP for him. Will be interesting too see where we go from him. Our offseason should not just be 'draft Harper and run it back'..

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    This is going to be a bad deal for Rockets. Dude did not look happy that he was traded there. I think he really wants the Spurs.

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    Watch the Suns trade away that #10 to get rid of Beal.



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    That's not a bad idea for them, seriously.

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    This is going to be a bad deal for Rockets. Dude did not look happy that he was traded there. I think he really wants the Spurs.
    He went to where he wanted to go. He killed the Minny deal.

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