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    I dont think the Spurs were low-balling so much as Rockets and Heat could afford to pay more because our team sucks more

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    I continue to say this, Kevin Durant next year would have been awesome for us. Kevin Durant after that point would have become more of a problem. Either:

    1. He falls off and you're paying him $50 million a year for a guy who is all but done.

    or

    2. He's still good, which is great, but now Dylan Harper is really coming on and ready to achieve his best outcomes, but we still have Durant needing 20 shots a game.

    I estimate the Spurs knew these two outcomes and that's why they didn't want to offer too much.
    That's a good explanation of what they might have been thinking. I guess $50M+ was too big of a gamble to take.

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    Keldon's contract isn't that bad, just two years left, $17.5M per.
    Not a positive asset, but we wouldn't need to attach anything to move him.

    If Devin is staying, he better get his together because if he has another bad season he goes into negative asset territory.
    Devin is trash. So is sochan. We will be glad to get rid of then.

    keldon is perfect for bench leader

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    I thought PHX was 2nd apron
    It doesn't change in second apron.
    These are the restrictions:

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    Devin is trash. So is sochan. We will be glad to get rid of then.

    keldon is perfect for bench leader
    With the addition of Harper, Keldon becomes redundant because his game revolves around attacking the rim.
    He's a horrible defender and a pretty bad shooter.
    Great locker room presence, but we don't need his skillset anymore.

    Devin is an inconsistent chucker, but I guess our front office still has hopes that he'll get his together. In theory he's a great off the ball player and could be a decent enough defender.

    Jeremy is a very good defender, potentially elite and a huge negative on offense. But he's not a negative asset until we see his extension.

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    That's a good explanation of what they might have been thinking. I guess $50M+ was too big of a gamble to take.
    50 mil is a nothing burger when the spurs wouldnt have cap space anyway.

    and yall are kidding yourselves if you think kd wouldnt step aside eventually once he sees he’s not as effective as he used to be, even if it was as immediate as year 2. This is a guy who has matured over the years and cares about passing forward knowledge at the end of his career. He would have been a big addition to the team, but now Amen Thompson and Jabari will reap that benefit and become better pros down the line.

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    F#ck FVV. Wasn't he the guy in the Raptors Championship celebration video with Kawhi yelling "F#ck Pop"? I hope he gets kicked to the F@cking curb.
    It was apparently Kawhi's butt buddy who said it, not FVV.

    But what about PHX side? I thought they could not take in more than they gave out (and cannot aggregate to send money to a third team)? Brooks + Jalen money > KD’s
    Brooks had $1 mil of incentives in his contracts, which are now unlikely, so his base salary for next season is $21.124 mil, thus Brooks + Jalen are about 200k less than KD's salary. There probably would be more contracts and teams added by the time it's finalized anyway. Math is easy to figure out once teams agree on the value.

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    Great move for Rockets, sending Green is literal addition by subtraction (though he torched the Spurs a couple times lol). I’m mostly disappointed because we really need to move off of at least 1 but preferably 2 of Vassell/Keldon/Sochan.

    Am I wrong for thinking Cam Whitmore is a 1:1 replacement for Jalen Green given similar minutes and usage?

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    It was apparently Kawhi's butt buddy who said it, not FVV.



    Brooks had $1 mil of incentives in his contracts, which are now unlikely, so his base salary for next season is $21.124 mil, thus Brooks + Jalen are about 200k less than KD's salary. There probably would be more contracts and teams added by the time it's finalized anyway. Math is easy to figure out once teams agree on the value.
    Gotcha - thought Brooks + Green made more than KD by half a million or something but taking out 1M for Brooks makes sense.

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    Keldon + Barnes + Branham + Wesley + seven SRPs
    Guess or information? I wouldn't be surprised if this was close though.

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    Ime Udoka, Royal Ivey and Steven Adams were huge parts of KD having Houston on his list of teams. He feels comfortable going to Houston and slotting in with their young pieces. Fred VanVleet and Durant give the Rockets the championship pedigree they need to contend next season.

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    Guess or information? I wouldn't be surprised if this was close though.
    I was just cracking a joke, but yeah, might actually not be that far off

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    Eh. The Spurs were a play-in team before Wemby went down.

    Next year, if Wembanyama stays healthy, they're probably a straight-up playoff team. Fox with his fixed hand. I don't think people realize how good Harper is going to be.
    I believe we were looking pretty good until the late december blood clot effects started hitting

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    If OKC doesn’t close out on a championship tonight. Do they set their sights on the next available star. They have the assets to trump any Spurs offer if they are competing for the same guy.

    Anyway, Spurs need a wing/big wing. Better call the Pelicans.

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    I believe we were looking pretty good until the late december blood clot effects started hitting
    Yeah. Wemby started slowing down and then went out.

    Honestly, this guard corps is nasty. Wembanyama is going to be a monster. They just need to add some size and they're going to be a pretty fearsome team.

    I really want to reiterate how nasty a Fox-Castle-Harper trio is going to be.

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    Rockets walked away from a deal earlier this week as Tari Eason and Jabari Smith Jr were off limits. Suns had no choice but to get a deal done and they settled for the best value.

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    50 mil is a nothing burger when the spurs wouldnt have cap space anyway.
    Salary this year wouldn't be a problem, but it could be as soon as next offseason if Durant wanted a max extension (around 60 million per year), and it would have put the Spurs out of the race should any younger star (Giannis?) become available, as they wouldn't have included Fox or KD in the trade after demanding a trade to the Spurs and re-signing them, and it wouldn't work otherwise.

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    Anyone know what he could mean with this gif?
    He's a kid who likes to troll and is obviously very affected by the news around him... which to me is a sign of mental softness... the same kind of that leads dudes like KD (ironically enough) to have burner accounts. IMO.

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    A TMIII and Herb Jones for #14 & a couple of 2nd round picks would be nice.
    Why not Jokic for #14 and a couple SRPs?

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    Harper is irrelevant to keldon imo because he better not be on the bench past the beginning of the season

    I am not a Sochan believer. Devin is a shooter who can't shoot

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    Tried to find some Aldama info on Grizzlies subreddit and it seems they think he'll be gone in a S&T.
    I wonder if we could get it done without including #14.

    70/4 would be a great deal for us.

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    Harper is irrelevant to keldon imo because he better not be on the bench past the beginning of the season
    It's irrelevant who starts when two of Fox/Castle/Harper will be on the floor at all times. In that scenario Keldon becomes an issue because he doesn't get the ball.

    I am not a Sochan believer.
    Me neither, but as of now he's just a player on a rookie deal.

    Devin is a shooter who can't shoot
    I also want him gone, but it doesn't look likely at this point.

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    I'm also afraid we can never count on Wemby playing a full season

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    I think of Keldon more as a Patty figure than a Manu figure ...in terms of leadership compared to consistent on-court importance

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    It was apparently Kawhi's butt buddy who said it, not FVV.



    Brooks had $1 mil of incentives in his contracts, which are now unlikely, so his base salary for next season is $21.124 mil, thus Brooks + Jalen are about 200k less than KD's salary. There probably would be more contracts and teams added by the time it's finalized anyway. Math is easy to figure out once teams agree on the value.
    lol. I'll have to try and find it and watch it again as I only watched it once back then and the comments said it was FVV, so I'd been thinking it was him all these years .

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