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He was one of my favorite free agency targets before the lottery, but I'm not sure now since we got Harper.
He's Vasell-sized, but a borderline elite defender. We still need forwards with legit size.
I’ll have to admit I haven’t seen much of him, aside from the playoffs. Are folks thinking he’s the solution at SF?
He was one of my favorite free agency targets before the lottery, but I'm not sure now since we got Harper.
He's Vasell-sized, but a borderline elite defender. We still need forwards with legit size.
This is the whole point, and you guys said this a day or two ago. I don't think he fits as well with Dylan Harper due to his size. Would love to have him, but not sure we can waste the MLE on him when the Spurs need more size. I agree with all you guys that say he might be a bit small to add another player of that size.
If everybody offers MLE, NAW's best spot is probably Lakers tbh. I expect they'll do everything they can to sign DFS too. Luka is heliocentric enough that pure off ball guys next to him can thrive. If they can flip Knecht or Reaves for a decent rim protector (Nic Claxton + stuff maybe), that's a reasonably balanced starting 5
Luka/NAW/DFS/Lebron/Claxton is a reasonably balanced lineup that doesn't completely hemorrhage points and has decent spacing
I think he can get more than MLE, I'd say up to 16 to 18 million a year.
Would be a great upgrade for THJ who's making the same money.
He's turning 27 and hasn't made much for modern NBA standards, I think he'll prioritize getting as much money as possible.
I like NAW a lot as a player - but how does he fit on this team after we draft Harper, and especially if we haven't traded Vassell yet?
We seem to be creating quite the logjam of guards (Fox/Castle/Harper/Vassell/Wesley/Branham) and wings (Castle/Vassell/Champ/Keldon/Barnes/Sochan). We really need to thin out some of those ranks and turn those roster spots into forwards and bigs.
And before anyone comes and responds "yOu DoNt HaVe To WoRrY aBoUt BlAkE aNd BrAn" - yes, I realize those are end of bench guys who shouldn't impede adding talent to the roster... but the point is they are in fact on the roster, taking up space... so the Spurs need to do something about them.
In my mind I've already moved on from Devin and NAW is a replacement that wouldn't mind coming off the bench.
Branham is pure trade fodder at this point and Wesley isn't far behind. I wouldn't worry about their spots on the roster.
this. That's why I said I wouldn't mind sigingin 2-3 forwards this offseason. Like trade for KD and get me LaRavia and maybe even trade for PJ Washington or John Collins as well. A Champagnie type player is technically enough as your 4th guard behind Fox, Castle, Harper. Sign Sam Merill and we're good.
For the "Hawks have no way to improve" crowd:
ATL has a $25MM TPE (the largest in the league) and reports are they intend to use it (Keith Smith, not one to peddle in click bait rumors, says he's heard buzz around the league this week around ATL and this exception). Something to keep an eye on. The Hawks have plenty of room under the tax and apron line to resign Caris Levert and use this TPE. Keith says ATL is a team to watch in the trade market.
Barring other moves they have about 35 million below the tax, which won’t be enough to re-sign Levert, use the TE and MLE. It’s another option for them but they don’t have the space to use everything, rather it’ll be an either or situation.
Their biggest decision node will be whether they extend Trae or trade him. Then it goes from there.
Could the Spurs move up to 8 by trading Vassel and 14 to Brooklyn and would it be worth it?
No, Vassell isn't worth that much
As I wrote before, the thing I'm most interested in are cheap rotation players and reclamation projects.
Dort, Caruso, Wiggins, Joe, Nembhard, McConnell.
SRP/undrafted players competing for a championship tonight.
We need a couple more of those.
How many first round picks would Vassell be worth if the Spurs tried to trade him outright? Just the one? His contract isn't too bad and he's shown he can play when he's the first or second option, but obviously shouldn't be either of those on a winning team looking to make a deep run.
Let's give it another shot.
Trade #1:
Spurs: PJ Washington, Gafford (If both agree to an extension right away and it's not more than 40ish million per year for both.)
Mavs: '30 swap returned, Jrue
Celtics: '28 swap returned, Vassell
Trade #2:
Keldon, #14 for Cam Johnson
Trade #3:
Barnes, Wesley, SRPs for John Collins
Fox/Harper
Castle/Champagnie
Cam/Sochan
Washington/Collins
Wemby/Gafford
With full MLE also available.
We can even skip the John Collins trade as it'd be a bit of an overkill.
Or the Cam Johnson trade.
Throw the MLE at NAW, Merrill or LaRavia in that case and draft the highest ceiling wing with #14, he wouldn't have to contribute right away.
But my priority would be getting Washington and Gafford since Mavs have Flagg/AD/Lively and there's no reason for either of them to extend there.
No minutes at SF, either. Klay/Marshall/Martin.
Screw trading for Cam Johnson. Not worth it.
I have been wanting John Collins at the 4 this off-season though.
I want a Santi S&T.
Work your magic, Brian.
I know the drawbacks (namely the back/being spacey), but Porter Jr. is the best fit. He's basically a worse Durant, minus the shot creation.
Every other option being bandied about is either too expensive on multiple fronts (Markkanen), too small (Washington, Johnson) or a big lacking wing skills (Collins), etc.
The Nuggets need depth and the Spurs need a consolidation trade. There's various iterations that include absorbing either Nnaji's relative albatross or Saric that could make sense . . .
Vassell, Barnes, 2nd(s)
Vassell, Champagnie, Branham/Wesley, 2nd(s).
Vassell, Johnson, 2nd(s)
Barnes, Johnson, 14
I mentioned MPJ during the season, I wouldn't mind him because he's surely better than the friendship crew and his contract has only two years left, so it's not like we'd be putting ourselves in a bad situation.
But it's not happening.
I don't want to be RC_Drunkford, but an actual source I'm inclined to believe in told me that the Nuggets have been trying to trade him all year long and that everyone just hangs up on them because of his medical record.
Washington isn't too small in most matchups, he plays bigger than MPJ.
Ehh. I don’t disagree that he’s the right player archetype-wise, but I really don’t think he’s worth giving up the packages you’re mentioning. Especially not considering he’s owed close to $80MM over the next 2 years.
No, not interested in MPJ. His injuries might be too risky. Would much rather have someone like PJ Washington.
Fair enough, but how much less do you think a relatively young version of this coveted archetype is going for?
Poach the Twolves of Reid and Nickeil. Try and poach Filipowski and Sensabaugh from the Jazz too.
I dont know how viable any of that is as I dont really pay much attention to the cap or contracts anymore. Just throwing at the wall.
Everyone just given up on Naz Reid?
I would poke around New Orleans though. Either via a trade up to 7 if there’s a guy Spurs love there like Kon (maybe Devin + 14 for CJ + 7 if NO would prefer to get a younger player?) or is Herb + 23 available for Keldon + 14?
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