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    To set the record straight, I'd still trade for Giannis (keep #2, Castle, Wemby *duh, and Fox)

    But would pass on KD.

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    I wonder if the Jazz will be more reasonable in trades now that Ainge's son is taking over. I think they did that to fix the reputation of them commanding a pound of flesh for every trade. I think the Jazz have some interesting players that are gettable as they rebuild.

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    MPJ would be a huge disaster. Too injury prone for the money, serious injuries.

    Collins would be much better. The only thing he supposedly has on Collins, 3 point shooting, you can't even count on in the playoffs. He shot 34% on 5 attempts a game this year ... And Collins in his last playoff year shot .... 34% on 5 attempts a game

    Even in Denver's le year, Porter only shot 35%

    Neither one passes the ball more than adequately. But everything else: rebounds, steals, blocks, all favor Collins.

    And what I like most about Collins: he moves, he's a an opportunistic cutter. He's not standing around waiting for a Jokic pass, he's active and gets himself open looks at the rim with his off ball work. He's going to be feasting with the Spurs.

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    I still think Sochan and Vassell have good value in this league. Vassell's contract will be fine with the salary cap increasing. I remember Zach Lowe saying it was a good contract when Vassell signed it. He said a lot of people will gripe about how much he gets paid, but when you look at how the salary cap is projected to grow, it is a reasonable contract. Last year he shot .368 from 3 point range. That's a little above league average. He was recognized as a good team defender when he came in the league and I see that he still has that potential. 6'5 guards in the NBA that can shoot .368 from 3 point land tend to stick around in this league and maybe he took Kobe shots too much, he did make quite a few and at times in the clutch, but nothing about his form needs fixing. It's a lot easier to teach shot selection than to teach a player to shoot 36% from 3.

    I think Sochan is underrated here too. Yes, his value is tied to his ability to shoot 3s, but no doubt if he was on a team that didn't have miserable shooting like the Spurs, he would be an asset because of his defense, reasonable ball handling for his position, and hustle plays. Obviously he was valuable enough that the Spurs wouldn't include him in a Durant trade. I don't know that he will stick on the Spurs because of our terrible overall shooting, but I do think he has good value around the league.

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    I wonder if the spurs can turn to. Hawks Johnson with those Hawks picks. He kinda is the perfect PF for Wemby.

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    I wonder if the spurs can turn to. Hawks Johnson with those Hawks picks. He kinda is the perfect PF for Wemby.
    Hawks are probably trying to add to their team so I doubt Johnson is available.

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    Spurs should revisit this ASAP, before the Lakers get him. According to Jazz reporters the asking price is low, so it would most likely not involve a first. Trade down from #14 or a gang of second rounders for that type of player is a bargain. And Hardy knows the friendship crew. Send him Keldon and Branham to match salary. Collins would immediately be the 3rd best player on the roster.


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    What part of "The Spurs like their young core" don't you get, guys?

    As depressing as it is you should stop expecting any move away from Vassell or Sochan in particular.

    My guess if moving them would be like PATFO admitting either their bad scouting or even worse player's development.

    Oh, we also have a rookie coach that needs to learn the job for a few years...

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    I want a Santi S&T.

    Work your magic, Brian.
    I don't know if we can do that. He was the 30th pick in the Primo draft. That would be like Brian Wright admitting he ed up having #12

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    Spurs should revisit this ASAP, before the Lakers get him. According to Jazz reporters the asking price is low, so it would most likely not involve a first. Trade down from #14 or a gang of second rounders for that type of player is a bargain. And Hardy knows the friendship crew. Send him Keldon and Branham to match salary. Collins would immediately be the 3rd best player on the roster.

    This is the way.

    I've posted it before and I'll keep posting it: he is an awesome cutter and mover who is a great opportunist at getting and presenting himself open and in a position to score. And on top of that he can hit his threes and rebound.

    If anyone watches some of his highlight videos with the Jazz, it's absurd how often be was able to get open for shots at the rim and that's with Jazz lottery bums being responsible for getting him the ball. On the Spurs with Wemby, Fox, Castle, and Harper looking for him? Forget about it!

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    Wizards very interested in Harper, i would trade #2 for Bilal Culibaly and #6

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    Wizards very interested in Harper, i would trade #2 for Bilal Culibaly and #6
    I wouldn't trade Harper for ⁶ + Bilal + Sarr... you give me that package + 2026 1st unprotected and I at least have a discussion with the rest of the team about it...and might still say no..

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    Wizards very interested in Harper, i would trade #2 for Bilal Culibaly and #6

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    Wizards very interested in Harper, i would trade #2 for Bilal Culibaly and #6
    What a terrible trade. I wouldn't even consider it for a nanosecond.

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    Spurs should revisit this ASAP, before the Lakers get him. According to Jazz reporters the asking price is low, so it would most likely not involve a first. Trade down from #14 or a gang of second rounders for that type of player is a bargain. And Hardy knows the friendship crew. Send him Keldon and Branham to match salary. Collins would immediately be the 3rd best player on the roster.


    Vassell needs to be moved for obvious reasons. And John Collins is a good target either swap or via 3rd team who needs a shooting guard to send multiple FRP’s to Jazz.

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    Vassell needs to be moved for obvious reasons. And John Collins is a good target either swap or via 3rd team who needs a shooting guard to send multiple FRP’s to Jazz.
    multiple first round picks? Did you read the tweet?

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    Why is John B always a year or two behind in his takes? Smh

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    I wouldn't trade Harper for ⁶ + Bilal + Sarr... you give me that package + 2026 1st unprotected and I at least have a discussion with the rest of the team about it...and might still say no..
    So we starting to overblown Harper?

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    So we starting to overblown Harper?
    I wonder how some of you people make it through life without going bankrupt on daily basis, tbh.

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    Why is John B always a year or two behind in his takes? Smh
    Haha coz I actually have a daytime job??

    Even better then with not having to send the FRP’s to Jazz. Maybe use it to move up from #14 for Sorber or whoever the Spurs target. Or move up #38 to get Reynaud, Fleming?? I seriously think the Spurs are high on either Sorber or a future Wemby front court pair, as not to pursue the KD trade.

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    I like NAW a lot as a player - but how does he fit on this team after we draft Harper, and especially if we haven't traded Vassell yet?

    We seem to be creating quite the logjam of guards (Fox/Castle/Harper/Vassell/Wesley/Branham) and wings (Castle/Vassell/Champ/Keldon/Barnes/Sochan). We really need to thin out some of those ranks and turn those roster spots into forwards and bigs.

    And before anyone comes and responds "yOu DoNt HaVe To WoRrY aBoUt BlAkE aNd BrAn" - yes, I realize those are end of bench guys who shouldn't impede adding talent to the roster... but the point is they are in fact on the roster, taking up space... so the Spurs need to do something about them.
    seriously though, i dont consider blake and branham part of any logjam. i think about logjam in terms of rotational minute sto give out, not necessarily who is 14th or 15th on the roster.

    and i like blake

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    The idea that Vassell is worth multiple firsts is one of the weirdest memes to come out of this trade season so far. Dude's not even positive value now, and I say that as a dude who likes Devin more than the average STer and thinks the Spurs should keep him for another year.

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    To set the record straight, I'd still trade for Giannis (keep #2, Castle, Wemby *duh, and Fox).
    to set the record straight, this means you wouldnt still trade for Giannis

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    The idea that Vassell is worth multiple firsts is one of the weirdest memes to come out of this trade season so far. Dude's not even positive value now, and I say that as a dude who likes Devin more than the average STer and thinks the Spurs should keep him for another year.
    STer talk down on their own Spurs players, but would be surprised how other teams view them. Great example was Tre and Zollins last season with the Bulls. I certainly think Vassell would pitch several FRP’s and it’s best now before his reduced minutes with Harper coming.

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