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Good flag. Thos mock offseasons were awesome. Used to listen religiously before he went behind a paywall.
With mo's encouragement, it was time for a 2025 NBA Offseason Thread, since a lot of non-Spurs offseason talk is getting lost in other threads (such as the around the league thread).
Here's a place for all the talk about what's going around the league this offseason.
Side note - if you haven't checked out Part 1 of the Dunc'd On Podcast Mock Offseason, it's free and entertaining. https://open.spotify.com/episode/0hM...f4d00fd90f4869 Part II is for subscribers, which I personally don't think is worth $20/month. But I am fan of this format of Mock Offseason that Duncan and Pelton do. Spoiler Alert: KD doesn't go to the Spurs.
Good flag. Thos mock offseasons were awesome. Used to listen religiously before he went behind a paywall.
For the official record of this thread:
HOU acquires Kevin Durant from PHO for Jalen Green, Dillon Brooks, #10 and 5 SRPs.
My priorities are getting some bigs.
Even if Wembanyama stays healthy though the year, and I'm going to be optimistic, he's going to miss games and we also just need good backups. If there's someone who meshes with him, then fantastic.
It's not the only type I'm looking for at #14, but at this point I hope a Sorber is there. Then use money to get those Aldama types. My goal is something like a good somewhat traditional center with good passing and IQ and/or a brute type like Andre Drummond and then that PF type who can hit threes.
If they can somehow snake Renaud with the SRP then that's excellent.
Trade Vassell with 14th pick for two Nets picks
Draft Harper, Sorber, Powell
Sign NAW
Sign Taurean Prince
Trade Keldon, Sochan, future 1st for Herb Jones (if this can’t be done, then just hope Sochan becomes half the player Herb is and start him)
NAW and Powell will be our version of Caruso and Dort
Fox/ Wesley
Harper/ NAW
Castle/ Julian/ Powell
H. Jones/ T. Prince
Wemby/ Sorber
Top defensive team in the NBA next season, IMO
The offseason is REALLY here now... let's the madness begin!
What's the over/under on deals before the draft starts on Wednesday?
Wonder what the Spurs pivot to now because even though it seems like they didn't offer much for KD I feel like they probably thought they were getting KD. This is the first thing in a long time that hasn't fallen in their lap so I am interested to see what kind of deals they can do when the other team isn't bending over to get ed like the Kings or random mana from heaven isn't falling in their face like the Wemby and Harper picks. Even the Castle pick fell in their lap cause he was the obvious pick at 4.
They didn't even want KD. They never even made an official offer for KD.
What they pivot to is what they have planned all along. To make two draft picks at 2 and 14 and then acquire a couple more players to fill out the roster via a trade or fa signing.
Wouldn’t be surprised if Brooklyn and OKC tries to consolidate their picks and move up tbh.
They wanted Durant at a certain price and could have pushed in if they wanted to. People really need to recognize the significant risks of picking Durant up.
And no, Castle was definitely not the obvious pick at 4 last year. There was a lot of dispute here and among draft gurus and elsewhere about the pick.
True true
Going to be especially watching what these two teams are up to. Some ideas that I have no real basis of believing will happen, but make sense to me:
- BKN takes PG13 into their cap space for #3 but NOT for #8. Maybe it's PG + 3 to BKN for #19 + #26 + PHI's own pick (top 8 protected) in 2028 (there are some other swaps associated with this pick so it may be more complicated than I'm willing to figure out right now). BKN gets VJ at 3 and Ace drops all the way down to them at 8 while BKN can try to rehab PG13 in the hopes of being able to flip him at some point and if not, at least he helps them hit the salary floor. This also creates a massive TPE for PHI to potentially use in another move, maybe picking something up from BOS?
- I'm looking for OKC to trade out of both of these picks, because they do not have any roster spots without any outright easy cuts. The cuts that would be most likely would be Dieng, who I don't think they are ready to give up on, or Ajay Mitc , who I definitely don't think they want to lose.
- If OKC doesn't do move out of both picks, I'm wondering if they try to cash in on Cason Wallace. He would be a nice pickup for Dallas in exchange for future draft capital. Can fill in at PG while Kyrie is rehabbing, and fits the "defense wins championships" approach Nico is talking about. Also young and gives a matchup with Flagg's timeline and can be a potential long term piece for Dallas. I've heard other moves like Jrue for Dallas... but I think Cason just makes more sense, and Dallas could just acquire him using one of their TPEs and then look to cut salary elsewhere.
With the Hali injury I think CP0 to Indy is a legit possibility. Also wanna see what Denver tries to do to improve.
They most certaintly made an offer. Their are multiple reports that Phoenix was not happy with it. Not sure how Phoenix couldn't be happy with an offer than didn't exist.
He was absolutely the obvious pick after Risacher, Sarr, and Shepperd were gone. Castle and those 3 were the top 4 picks in almost every mock draft leading up to the actual draft.
I think the Spurs need to move that 2026 Spurs pick and the Hawks swap because the East look weak with Indiana, Boston and Milwaukee having key players out for most of the season.
He was obvious to me. I had him #1. But, no, absolutely was this not the consensus whatsoever and it's grotesque revisionism to say so.
they need a PG that plays with pace though
Every one of CP tendons would explode within 10 minutes of trying to play at the pace the pacers do.
I legit can't think of a worst point guard for them than an old point guard who doesn't want to play fast and literally can't play fast anymore.
I think there is a greater than 0% chance Paul doesn't sign with anyone and retires, unless his ego allows him to go sit on some teams bench and be a break in case of emergency player.
Almost zero chance CP3 goes that far East. He's staying in LA IMO.
I had no interest in anything from the Wizards but Middleton picked up his option. 33 million.
If they attach assets it might not be a bad rental and path to clear Keldon and scrubs out.
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