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    OKC has been fantastic but let’s not ignore the mountain of context
    there is an asterisk to almost every le

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    Way-too-early pick for next season:
    Cleveland tbh. Should be the easiest path of anyone.

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    Way-too-early pick for next season:
    Cleveland tbh. Should be the easiest path of anyone.
    The East is gonna be a cakewalk that I wouldn't be surprised if Giannis with his lack of a good team makes it all the way to the Finals.

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    The East is gonna be a cakewalk that I wouldn't be surprised if Giannis with his lack of a good team makes it all the way to the Finals.
    Giannis is gonna need better than Kevin Porter Jr to make a run tbh.

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    Pacers were amazing. Such a dramatic series. I have two favorite teams, the spurs and the thunder so as you can imagine I am so thrilled my team has won the championship. That has only happened a couple times in my lifetime where a team has won where I watched practically all of the their games. So as you can imagine I am beyond the moon right now!


    Go spurs next year!

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    Feel so bad for Haliburton. Dude had a legendary playoff run.

    When are teams going to understand that lasting calf injuries aren’t to be ed with. Sit the man, you’ve had all the warning signs. I know it’s the finals but health should come first every time.

    I hope the Spurs will be smarter with Wemby.

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    Feel so bad for Haliburton. Dude had a legendary playoff run.

    When are teams going to understand that lasting calf injuries aren’t to be ed with. Sit the man, you’ve had all the warning signs. I know it’s the finals but health should come first every time.

    I hope the Spurs will be smarter with Wemby.
    I think of how Brandon Roy's career was cut short because of choosing to play in the playoffs instead of sitting out for the season.

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    I think of how Brandon Roy's career was cut short because of choosing to play in the playoffs instead of sitting out for the season.
    Yeah there have been many occasions. Just preserve the guy’s health, it’s not like a hobbling Haliburton was going to be the difference. Indiana even had the signs and still ignored them.

    Players run much more these days compared to the past, they change direction more, play with an increased intensity, run faster. No longer are 8 guys standing around watching a 1 on 1 like before. It’s not like AC Green jogging between the two baskets for a 1000 games without missing one.

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    It was clear that would happen to Haliburton. Same happened to KD after playing with a strained calf in the finals when he was on the Warriors. You don't play with a calf strain. That always results in an achilles tear.


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    It was clear that would happen to Haliburton. Same happened to KD after playing with a strained calf in the finals when he was on the Warriors. You don't play with a calf strain. That always results in an achilles tear.

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    Spurs FO watched the finals and said: We gotta double down!!!


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    Reminds me of the Warriors le runs when they usually beat teams whose stars got injured during their series with them.

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    So are the Knicks the betting favorite? It’s either them or Cleveland I imagine. Also OKC has the west locked up next year.

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    Reminds me of the Warriors le runs when they usually beat teams whose stars got injured during their series with them.
    Thunder were probably the biggest favorite in 2015 and KD missed most of the season.
    CP3 got injured in the process of eliminating the Spurs, Clippers lost against the Rockets.
    Warriors had an easy time in the West and then played Cavs without Kyrie and Love.

    Also, let's not forget Pacers also benefitted from injuries. They proved that they were legit, but their run was also significantly easier because of the injuries.
    Bucks without Lillard, both Garland and Mobley missed games and then played injured.
    Knicks would've probably beaten the Celtics even without Tatum's injury, but Brown also had a knee surgery right after the playoffs, Porzingis had that mysterious illness and was completely useless, Jrue missed most of Magic series and was obviously off.

    It was one of the worst seasons I've seen health wise.

    So are the Knicks the betting favorite? It’s either them or Cleveland I imagine. Also OKC has the west locked up next year.
    Too early to say.
    Rockets probably have another move in them.
    Minnesota and Denver will make moves.
    Lakers don't have a chance, but Lakerrefs will be in full force to give Lebron another run.

    I think Cavs will retool, I can see them trading Garland, maybe even Allen.
    Magic had both of their stars miss a lot of games and they already addressed a lot of their shooting issues. Also one move away from being legit.
    Hopefully Bucks figure something out because Giannis will be by far the best player in the East.

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    I think of how Brandon Roy's career was cut short because of choosing to play in the playoffs instead of sitting out for the season.
    By contrast, look at Pop holding Duncan out of the 2000 playoffs.

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    I forget who it was, but former player said it's the shoes. A lot more players today wear low top sneakers. He was saying the high top sneakers give greater support to your ankles. He said this is why you see so many Achilles injuries today, as opposed to the 80s and 90s.
    I don't know if it's the shoes (it's something I think about sometimes), but I really do wonder why so many players are getting them now.

    Whoever he was he forgot to mention the game is way more explosive today, higher pace, and today’s players played up to 3 games a day in AAU.
    All that rakes a toll on their bodies
    Maybe the NBA can just space the season out longer. I don't want less games personally due to the records and all that kind of stuff would be thrown out the window if they lowered the games, and as a fan, I don't want to watch less games either. Can't they just space out the season more?
    Players play during the off-season, so why not just shorten the offseason to make the season longer to be able to give the players a bit more rest between games?

    Pop was right the whole time. Alot of us, including me, gave Pop crap for "babying" players via minutes restrictions, etc., but he knew much better than all of us. We were wrong, he was right.

    Tim, Tony, and Manu don't have the length of careers they had if it wasn't for Pop limiting minutes, listening to the team Doctors, etc.

    I still believe that if a player is able to play, regular season or otherwise (sans pre-season), they should play, but yeah, if the team is sitting a player or players, it's probably for a good reason.

    For instance, Kobe Bryant probably should've/could've played till 39 or 40 instead of 37, but the dude was simply ran into the ground.
    I was highly against Pop resting players that were healthy enough to play. I still think you need to get your conditioning up if you want to be able to learn to push through fatigue in the biggest games.

    I was more than OK with him resting TD and Manu (can't remember who else) as both of those guys did need it IMO to extend their careers, but most of the other players, I didn't think it was necessary.

    Well, the ABA was fast paced...so we're several 80s teams.

    Players today make tons more money, have better access to health, nutrition, and fitness. They also take several games off thanks to load management.
    I think today's league is a lot more explosive, so that may play a part in it.

    OT, but Pacers trading for their pick back next season looking like an elite move tbh.
    Darn, that was a great move. Who had their pick? What did they trade to get it back?

    It was clear that would happen to Haliburton. Same happened to KD after playing with a strained calf in the finals when he was on the Warriors. You don't play with a calf strain. That always results in an achilles tear.

    Alright, maybe it is the calf injuries and trying to play through that leading to these Achilles injuries. All those guys having calf injuries before it happened can't be a coincidence, can it?

    I think of how Brandon Roy's career was cut short because of choosing to play in the playoffs instead of sitting out for the season.
    I thought Brandon Roy already had knee issues before coming into the NBA, or did it happen while he was in the NBA?

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    By contrast, look at Pop holding Duncan out of the 2000 playoffs.
    That injury started a dynasty. Bc we would’ve whooped the Lakers in 2000. I don’t know about Portland though. They were a legit team. But I think we’d have pulled it out.

    But yes the best part about that injury I think was that it showed Tim that Pop really cared about him as a person. I think every other coach would’ve given in to their stars demand of playing hurt. I mean even great coaches like Kerr and Carlisle gave into their players. There are many reasons why Pop is just the best coach ever. But this is at the top of it.

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    Reminds me of the Warriors le runs when they usually beat teams whose stars got injured during their series with them.
    Damn, I forgot about Morant and Steph. Seriously didn't play a single team that was at full strength.

    I know injuries are part of the game and the team that stays healthiest usually wins, but still wild.

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    Damn, I forgot about Morant and Steph. Seriously didn't play a single team that was at full strength.

    I know injuries are part of the game and the team that stays healthiest usually wins, but still wild.
    I felt Steph's injury during the playoffs was poetic justice for all the times him and the Warriors took advantage of injured teams during their le runs.

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    Everyone talks about reducing the number of games, but I'd say that the issue is that the season is crammed together in such a short period of time.
    Not even 6 months for the regular season, that's with a week long break for all-star in the middle.
    Reducing the number of games by 10 or 20 wouldn't change much because teams would still play 4 or even 5 games a week, that's a bigger issue than playing more games over a longer period of time.

    The way I see it, there's no valid reason for the season not to start in early September with mid-April still being the end of the regular season.
    Yeah, first month of the season would have a drop in quality, but I'd rather have another month of mediocre basketball than all the load management and bad games because players are under ridiculous workloads with not enough time for recovery.
    Additional 5 or 6 weeks would enable a schedule with 3 games per week on average, which would also increase the viewership because let's face it, having too many games over a week lowers the viewership even if we're talking about local fans that watch just their teams, let alone people who watch the NBA on nightly basis.

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    Not me, I've been saying the season should be longer and spaced out for a while. Anytime they bring out the shorten the season/number of games stance, I always say do not do that, just make the season longer and space out the games. I don't want to see the NBA records ruined, and I also don't want to see less games by my team. From what I read, players play throughout the offseason anyway, so just start the season earlier and space it out to give the players more rest between games. Start with a month earlier and go from there.

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    I felt Steph's injury during the playoffs was poetic justice for all the times him and the Warriors took advantage of injured teams during their le runs.
    I mean, GSW also lost les due to Durant's injuries and Draymond's perpetually injured brain...but I agree with the general sentiment.

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    I like the idea of starting in early September. That's about 11 games per month, roughly 2 days off per game. The playoffs would have to run later to have a similar ratio, the regular season might have to end in late March to still have the Finals done before the draft.

    Suddenly a 6-week injury only makes a player miss about 16 games.

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