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    The 3 players Givony connected to the San Antonio Spurs from what he is hearing is Joan Beringer, Thomas Sorber and Cedric Coward
    Beringer? Maybe if we trade down?

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    Beringer? Maybe if we trade down?
    I agree that would be best but Givony has him mocked to the Spurs at 14. He is pretty plugged in so we might need to brace ourselves

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    Coward has been rising on my board recently as well. The sample size is small but would be a terrific 3&D for us if he pans out.

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    Essengue has been statistically bad in all 3 games of the German league (average of 3.7 ppg). He has a lot of qualities but right now he is skinny player who can't shot and I don't see how it will work in the NBA.

    Question is how fast can he fix that if he can fix it?

    Shooting wise, he is getting better year after year but he has still a long way to go. Even if he has been for 5 years in high level teaching structures (INSEP and Ulm), his shot still isn't in place. This year he is at 28% from FIBA 3.

    Bulking wise, he has gained only 6lbs between February 2024 and now.

    He really is a long term project.
    the real question about essengue is what specific NBA things does he project to do at an above average level. i get a lot of livio jean charles vibes. oh, lengthy reasonably athletic player who kind of just floats

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    Really not liking the Beringer rumors. He’s fine as a late first type of guy, but getting him at 14 would be very disappointing IMO.

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    Spurs Draft Board Tiers


    Based on what we know these players have been connected to the Spurs. I’m putting these players in order of consensus not my own opinion. But these are the most likely candidates to be picked based on their connections to the Spurs


    Tier pick #2
    Dylan Harper


    Tier Trade up from pick #14
    Jeremiah Fears
    Khaman Maluach


    Tier pick #14
    Egor Demin
    Thomas Sorber
    Cedric Coward


    Tier trade down from pick #14 or Trade up from pick #38
    Joan Beringer
    Danny Wolf
    Maxime Raynaud


    Tier pick #38
    John Tonje
    Javon Small
    Kobe Sanders
    Micah Peavy


    Tier Undrafted Summer league/Camp Bodies/two-way candidate
    LJ Cryer
    RJ Felton
    Sean Pedulla
    Cam Carter
    Obinna Anochili-Killen
    Zeke Mayo
    Dylan Cardwell
    Taelon Peter




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    My guess what the Spurs are thinking:

    at the 14th pick
    Plan A is Maluach
    Plan B is Sorber
    Plan C is Beringer
    and if all else fails, Coward

    I don’t think they have any plans to trade up at all. They have contingencies for every scenario and while Maluach (if he’s their target) is a longshot, they have to make a plan if he does slip to 14th.

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    , they have to make a plan if he does slip to 14th.
    Why would they have to make a plan if Maluach is the unlikely plan A and Sorber is plan B?
    They play the same position, it doesn't impact any other moves.

    The only plan I can see happening is Spurs trading down in case of both being gone and taking Beringer with one of the Nets picks.

    I can understand the idea of getting a big in the draft if none of the 3-D prospects is interesting enough.
    There are very few bigs on the market and we won't be at the top of their lists considering some other playoff teams need starting bigs and not just backups.

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    Whichever the draft goes, I am confident the Spurs will get a serviceable big to pair with Wemby in the front court for years ahead.

    My choice at 14:
    Sorber
    Carter
    Maluach

    Trade up #38 for:
    Fleming
    Reynaud
    Wolf

    a combination of PF/C would be great.

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    Really not liking the Beringer rumors. He’s fine as a late first type of guy, but getting him at 14 would be very disappointing IMO.
    Same. Beringer has some intriguing tools, but he's such a raw prospect. He wouldn't be ready to contribute for a while imo.

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    Spurs Draft Board Tiers


    Based on what we know these players have been connected to the Spurs. I’m putting these players in order of consensus not my own opinion. But these are the most likely candidates to be picked based on their connections to the Spurs


    Tier pick #2
    Dylan Harper


    Tier Trade up from pick #14
    Jeremiah Fears
    Khaman Maluach


    Tier pick #14
    Egor Demin
    Thomas Sorber
    Cedric Coward


    Tier trade down from pick #14 or Trade up from pick #38
    Joan Beringer
    Danny Wolf
    Maxime Raynaud


    Tier pick #38
    John Tonje
    Javon Small
    Kobe Sanders
    Micah Peavy


    Tier Undrafted Summer league/Camp Bodies/two-way candidate
    LJ Cryer
    RJ Felton
    Sean Pedulla
    Cam Carter
    Obinna Anochili-Killen
    Zeke Mayo
    Dylan Cardwell
    Taelon Peter



    if the spurs trade up for Fears i would probably delete my account here

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    Beringer? Maybe if we trade down?
    I expect Beringer to be there at 14. I think the only requirement the Spurs have for another big is "don't be trash like Collins and don't have stone hands like Bassey".

    I also think it would be hard to move off that 14 pick without overpaying to move back up, and they are probably not going to get all that much to move down and give somebody else the 14th pick.

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    Ace Bailey has declined the Utah Jazz a workout. - draft express
    I’d love if they picked him anyway.

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    if the spurs trade up for Fears i would probably delete my account here
    I mean at least it would mean that Devin HAS to be gone if they somehow end up with Fears...right

    What are you going to do if as soon as the draft starts we hear Devin + some future firsts got traded to Utah or Washington? That would most certainty mean they are taking Fears

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    I mean at least it would mean that Devin HAS to be gone if they somehow end up with Fears...right

    What are you going to do if as soon as the draft starts we hear Devin + some future firsts got traded to Utah or Washington? That would most certainty mean they are taking Fears
    losing one of our few competent shooters in Vassell as the means to acquire an undersized non-shooter in Fears would not be a good thing

    the spurs have 0 need for Fears. he is a score first point guard. we have Fox, Harper, Castle. why the urgency not only to add fears, but to trade up for him?

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    I expect Beringer to be there at 14. I think the only requirement the Spurs have for another big is "don't be trash like Collins and don't have stone hands like Bassey".

    I also think it would be hard to move off that 14 pick without overpaying to move back up, and they are probably not going to get all that much to move down and give somebody else the 14th pick.
    I'm not that big on extracting all the possible value from a pick.
    I don't care if Beringer is projected to be picked in 20s, if he can be let's say Walker Kessler, that's good enough value for me.

    But if we can get let's say 19+26 for 14+38 and still get Beringer, it would be good value.

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    I'm not that big on extracting all the possible value from a pick.
    I don't care if Beringer is projected to be picked in 20s, if he can be let's say Walker Kessler, that's good enough value for me.

    But if we can get let's say 19+26 for 14+38 and still get Beringer, it would be good value.
    the reason i disagree is that with 26 we can probably get someboyd like Kalkbrenner instead of Beringer and use the earlier pick to get a forward

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    the reason i disagree is that with 26 we can probably get someboyd like Kalkbrenner instead of Beringer and use the earlier pick to get a forward
    But is it worth getting a worse big since it's our most pressing need by far?
    Our wings are subpar to say the least, but still manageable.
    On the other hand, our team just doesn't work as soon as Wemby sits.

    I wouldn't even be opposed to getting two Cs with 14+38, we need three bigs, anyway. Let them battle it out.
    I think we'll definitely get one in the draft, then it comes down to if we'll get someone who's ready to be the backup right away or we'll get a third stringer while getting a reliable veteran in free agency or via trade.
    But as I said, there aren't many reliable veterans out there and a lot of teams need bigs. Meaning most of them will be overpaid.

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    The 3 players Givony connected to the San Antonio Spurs from what he is hearing is Joan Beringer, Thomas Sorber and Cedric Coward
    I'd be happy with Joan & Coward. Keep Sorber away from me

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    Oof.

    Givony has been swearing on Joan to the Spurs for a while. He had Joan going there way before he was on anyone's radar.

    For my part, god I hope not. Beringer screams Tidjane Salaun to me. I wasn't able to accept the Spurs were actually thinking about Salaun last year, and I still don't. Just a total non-basketball player. Salaun actually has skills Beringer doesn't, like a jump shot.

    I'm not excited about Cedric Coward, either. He doesn't seem that athletic and his stats are all against sub-par compe ion. It's... good? Not like J-Will who did it in Division 1. I guess the strength is good, but the rest is pretty good, I guess. Just don't know about this one.

    I'm okay with Sorber.

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    Writing off Saluan after a rookie season where Ball/Miller were continuously hurt still cracks me up tbh. Guy was always a 2-3 year project regardless of where he landed and the Spurs were absolutely about to pick him at #8 tbh

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    Writing off Saluan after a rookie season where Ball/Miller were continuously hurt still cracks me up tbh. Guy was always a 2-3 year project regardless of where he landed and the Spurs were absolutely about to pick him at #8 tbh
    You really need to start watching basketball games. The guy was entirely clueless. It was a wreck. Go check out Hornets fans on him. They're already out. He's got enthusiasm, I'll give him that.

    You guys whine about the Spurs' bad picks, Salaun would have been the worst pick they ever made.

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    I also think Salaun will never be an NBA player, but I don't get the Beringer comparisons.
    I haven't seen that much tape, but Beringer looks like a typical rim-runner with limited skillset and not someone who doesn't know how to actually play basketball.

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    You really need to start watching basketball games. The guy was entirely clueless. It was a wreck. Go check out Hornets fans on him. They're already out. He's got enthusiasm, I'll give him that.

    You guys whine about the Spurs' bad picks, Salaun would have been the worst pick they ever made.
    If PATFO had picked Saluan last year, you'd be slurping him off like every other FO move just like how you'll be sniffing whoever they pick this year. Or maybe that was just a Pop thing?

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    I legitimately would rather have Kalkbrenner than Beringer, and that’s not even considering draft position. I would much rather just package 38 + a future SRP or two to move up and grab Kalkbrenner at the end of the first round or beginning of 2nd then use any FRP on Beringer.

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