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    Just saw on Realgm that there is a report Giannis is waiting to see what the Bucks do in free agency. So that door might open again and maybe that is the player the Spurs really want.
    They don't have the assets or draft capital to do much of anything

    Sounds like an excuse he is loading up so that when he ask for a trade he can be like "i gave them a chance in free agency"

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    No way on earth Sochan will ever be the 3 point shooter or point of attack defender that Brooks has been in his career.

    Sochan will never ever at any point in his career impact winning an losing like Brooks does.

    The grizzlies haven't won a playoff game since Brooks left, in part because they haven't been able to find a 3 & D player like him.

    The rockets won more games both years he was on the team. They were the laughing stock of the nba and even worse than the spurs until he was one of the veterans that showed up.

    Feel how you want about his personality or his antics but I don't see how anyone can deny that Brooks impacts winning and losing. Teams he leaves win less when he's gone teams he goes to win more when he's there.

    Sochan at no point in his career so far has contributed to winning. The only noteworthy thing he has done in a spurs uniform is be the tank commander that helped us land Victor.

    Im calling this now: your first two sentences will not age well at all...

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    They don't have the assets or draft capital to do much of anything

    Sounds like an excuse he is loading up so that when he ask for a trade he can be like "i gave them a chance in free agency"
    Spurs will likely make an offer though. Definitely the next domino to fall I think he eventually requests a trade.

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    scott pointed out that they don’t have even one roster spot open or any non guaranteed contracts to cut, and that they will maybe have to kick 15 and 24 for this draft down the road a year or two.
    One small clarification, Ajay Mitc is a club option (6/29/25 decision date) and Jaylin Williams is not fully guaranteed until January... but I am making the assumption that they want to keep both of those guys (so much so that I'd assume they'd just flat out waive Ousmane Dieng before they let either of them go).

    I might be overestimating how they view Williams though... maybe they view him as expendable (especially if the right C fell into their laps), but he was definitely ahead of Dieng on the depth chart. Dillon Jones is the other guy at the bottom of their depth chart, but they gave him 4 years guaranteed.

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    Just saw on Realgm that there is a report Giannis is waiting to see what the Bucks do in free agency. So that door might open again and maybe that is the player the Spurs really want.
    Giannis put Kevin Durant in his all-time starting five over Tim Duncan. Giannis is officially dead to me now!

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    Giannis put Kevin Durant in his all-time starting five over Tim Duncan. Giannis is officially dead to me now!
    Interesting. What was his starting 5? How long ago did he make the list?

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    Green is ass. I’ve never seen a player score 30 one night and 9 the next for a whole season
    Allow me to acquaint you with one Devin Vassell, then

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    Allow me to acquaint you with one Devin Vassell, then
    Devin Vassell scored 30 or more 7 times in his 303 career games.

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    lol. No offer. Keep the friends together. I hope some of this crew is traded, or that the Spurs have a good plan ready to go. I just don't know if these guys have much chance to improve if they haven't really improved much in the past few years, what makes the Spurs think they can this upcoming season (that is if they're keeping them together)?

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    Spurs will likely make an offer though. Definitely the next domino to fall I think he eventually requests a trade.
    Giannis is going to be much like KD in that only the teams he wants to play for will be allowed to trade for him. If the Spurs don't make that list it doesn't matter what they offer the Bucks won't take it.

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    Devin Vassell scored 30 or more 7 times in his 303 career games.
    Sadly as a recovering Dev sniffer, I was aware of that. So it's even worse then, same scoring total inconsistency game to game but you don't even get the 30+ point bursts as commonly. But there was a bit of a glimmer towards the end of last season that I'd like to pretend was something to believe in?

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    yeah rockets are very well positioned. we knew they needed to make at least one consolidation trade and they've done so in a very cheap way with the durant trade.

    if you were trading for KD, he was going to take Brooks' spot in the lineup anwyay, and its clear they wanted to move off of Jalen Green regardless. so the KD trade was a slam dunk.

    they are apparently in talks to decline FVV's club option fo 45 mil to negotiate a longer term deal, maybe something like 3/100. if KD takes a discount as well...

    they can start FVV/Amen/Durant/Jabari/Sengun while still having Sheppard/Whitmore/Eason/Adams off the bench. Aaron Holiday is reasonable as well

    Jabari is extension eligible as well so theres incentive to move him now

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    damn that Rockets rotation looks dangerous

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    lol. No offer. Keep the friends together. I hope some of this crew is traded, or that the Spurs have a good plan ready to go. I just don't know if these guys have much chance to improve if they haven't really improved much in the past few years, what makes the Spurs think they can this upcoming season (that is if they're keeping them together)?
    The Spurs front office might just not be very good.

    Other than the no brainer Victor pick and I guess not ing up and doing something dumb other than taking Castle at 4, the Spurs drafts, trades, and free agent signings over the last 5 years have been bottom of the league status.

    Primo huge bust
    Branhim huge bust
    Wesley huge bust
    Sochan huge bust
    Devin a bust considering Haliburton went right after him
    Keldon maybe not a bust but definitely hasn't done anything to help the spurs be a better team
    McDermott signing was a bust and he literally can't get on the court after leaving SA
    Collins was so bad the spurs had to give the bulls their pick back to take him
    Osman literally isn't in the league anymore. Literally no nba team wanted him after the spurs traded for him
    Our second round picks never touch the floor. Never remotely contribute anything to the team. I thought this was standard but actually the more teams rosters I go through it seems they have at least 1 undrafted or second round pick guy on their team who plays semi regularly. Like if someone is out 8 weeks they just play that second round or undrafted player. and unless it's a star that is out they somehow stay afloat Not the spurs though. Tre Jones the only second round pick we had that actually played and he wasn't good.
    Before Victor the last transaction the Spurs made that actually helped them become noticeably better was the Pau Gasol signing. Other than that, every non Victor transaction rather it be a trade, signing, or draft pick, has made the spurs a worse basketball team for 6 straight years.

    I tried to count Derrick White as a good singing as he was the best player we had in the Denver series, but he was always hurt and had some pretty bad stretches and didn't hit his stride until he went to Boston so I couldn't quite get that far with him.
    I tried to count the Chris Paul singing but Chris Paul literally turned around and made every team he went to a playoff team EXCEPT the spurs so while we were better than last year we will also go down as the one team the guy who specializes in turning around and getting to the playoffs couldn't get to the playoffs

    Like think about how bad the pistons have been until this year. The Spurs have been just as bad for at least just as long. Hopefully changing our coach does for us what it did for them

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    damn that Rockets rotation looks dangerous
    yep. but they no longer have a FRP this year nor do they currently have one next year (its top 4 protected next year). their ability to land cost controlled talent will be tough unless they start finding ring chasers to join cheap

    they do have all their picks from 2027 on, have the suns picks in 27 and 29, and can swap their natural pick with the nets in 27 as well

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    yep. but they no longer have a FRP this year nor do they currently have one next year (its top 4 protected next year). their ability to land cost controlled talent will be tough unless they start finding ring chasers to join cheap

    they do have all their picks from 2027 on, have the suns picks in 27 and 29, and can swap their natural pick with the nets in 27 as well
    Good point about the Rocket's future outlook and draft bottleneck. I was thinking how since KD is 37 he won't be a continuing asset for HOU either. Usually a big trade like that another thing in the pro column is later on down the line you can flip the high value acquisition. But most of KD's value might potentially expect to expire with HOU due to age so it seems like an all in move for immediate contention window to the Rockets. Sounds like the pick situation could open up nicely right as the KD window closes but it looks like it is limited in the meantime.

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    My guess is that the Spurs didn’t make a formal offer. They probably talked hypothetically and the Suns could see the Spurs were not going to give up anything significant so they worked the other teams.
    According to Shams this morning, the bidding war came down to Miami and Houston. No mention of San Antonio so either the Spurs didn't make a formal offer, or at least one Phoenix was willing to entertain. Also mentioned Minnesota but Durant pushed back, and Phoenix honored that.

    It is what it is. Getting Durant would be exciting, but I'm also okay with us keeping #2 and #14 and continuing to build young instead of trying to rush things. Assuming everyone stays healthy, this group should still be able to be compe ive next season.

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    To be fair... this thread only asked if the Spurs could be a good landing place. There was never Durant to the Spurs buzz. 125 pages, spent in vain.

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    No way on earth Sochan will ever be the 3 point shooter or point of attack defender that Brooks has been in his career.

    Sochan will never ever at any point in his career impact winning an losing like Brooks does.

    The grizzlies haven't won a playoff game since Brooks left, in part because they haven't been able to find a 3 & D player like him.

    The rockets won more games both years he was on the team. They were the laughing stock of the nba and even worse than the spurs until he was one of the veterans that showed up.

    Feel how you want about his personality or his antics but I don't see how anyone can deny that Brooks impacts winning and losing. Teams he leaves win less when he's gone teams he goes to win more when he's there.

    Sochan at no point in his career so far has contributed to winning. The only noteworthy thing he has done in a spurs uniform is be the tank commander that helped us land Victor.
    I'm not even a fan of Brooks tbh but Sochan makes him look like an AllStar

    ST and a lot of Spurs fans in general acting like he's just a reliable 3pt shot away from being elite are insane, I'm a lot more concerned by his low IQ, low attention spam, poor handles, inability to create his own (even simple) shot, his clumsiness around the rim (insane amount of missed gimmies) or his poor court awareness making him a liability on offense for the passing game.

    His defense is also massively overrated, he can occasionally be great 1v1 but he always misses rotations and lacks the same focus than on offense

    That's a lot (too much?) to expect a 180

    There's a reason he ended up on the bench despite having ZERO compe ion at his role/position

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    Durant was really just a big distraction from draft scouting and prep.

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    Generational talent begging to come to San Antonio, willing to take less on an extension for the betterment of the team. And they said "nah, we like what we have". Complete lunacy.

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    Generational talent begging to come to San Antonio, willing to take less on an extension for the betterment of the team. And they said "nah, we like what we have". Complete lunacy.
    wait til they use the same trade package for RJ Barrett

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    houston got robbed

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