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We play them with our guys who can’t shoot. That’s what we do.
You have Brian Wright's attention...
We play them with our guys who can’t shoot. That’s what we do.
I see the same. I wrote previously that I thought there is a chance VJ ends up as the best player in this draft. If you can extract enough additional collateral I think you have to think hard about a Philly trade.
VJ would have to hit his 95% outcome to match Harper’s 75% outcome. It’s a huge gamble that you don’t need to take.
It’s not as simple as that. How about factoring overlap with Fox, overlap with Castle, value of other assets received which I said was key.
There isn't overlap with Fox and Castle taking Edgecombe? He doesn't have the size to play the SF. There is no forward worth taking in the top 7 or 8 outside of Flagg.
Here’s my bottom line: you take the best talent, the best prospect, and you figure it out. I honestly don’t see Fox here beyond his next contract, so then you’re left with a kick ass outsized mirror image backcourt in their early 20s. How awful.
I can't believe people are still arguing against drafting Harper.
Spurs have said a month ago they are drafting Harper.
It seems to me people are just simply going against Harper for no good reason and I don't understand why.
When using examples like VJ Edgecomb, that straight out says to me that you don't want Harper. It's not like VJ is a small forward that fits the team better. I just don't understand it. He's more limited and has a lower floor, and his fit also isn't the best. Sure, I would be very happy to take him if the Spurs had the 3rd pick, but we don't, the Spurs have the second pick. There really is no need to be talking about taking VJ Edgecomb or anyone else not named Cooper Flagg ahead of Harper.
Overwhelming majority here are on Team Harper, but it would be message board malfeasance not to throw into the grist mill for discussion's sake. It reinforces the obvious - draft Harper
We know how far this roster is from being great.
Only way to make a quick turnaround is trading this pick. Draft is a crapshoot anyway. Zion, Fultz, Lonzo, Morant, Scoot were all just as highly rated as Harper and didn't turn out as expected.
Get the extra assets, draft the under the radar star at 7, 8 or 9, and make the team actually better next year. Drafting Harper won't do that.
No thanks. After missing out on Durant, if the Spurs were to trade the number 2 pick on top of that for anything less than Giannis, this would be one of the worst off-seasons ever.
Spurs are at least listening to offers and have apparently communicated a steep asking price for #2. Still expected to keep the pick though
Listen of course maybe someone makes a stupid offer but otherwise not hard decision to keep and draft Harper
Yep. You’re ding yourself and the franchise a disservice by not listening because you just never know…
Yeah drafting a future all star all world guard wont make them better.
Sure lol
NBA media certainly wants the Spurs to trade the pick.
Sure trade speculation draws more traffic but still.
The fake news is dying for a big time player to land in a big media market like LA or NY.
The strategy is you pick the best player. You’ve got smart assistants and a smart O Coordinator in Johnson that can make it work.
Yeah, Spurs are gonna solve whatever problems for East Coast team out of simple kindness, apparently
You don't know what he is in the NBA like you didn't know what Zion was gonna be. Halliburton wasn't drafted at 2 and didn't get a fraction of the draft hype Fultz, Lonzo and Scoot got yet he turned out much better. Bottom line you're guessing like any casual.
From what I've gathered, he's got a higher floor than all those guys you just listed. That's why. And it seems a lot of teams think so, not just the Spurs.
I actually go the opposite way. I don't understand how Harper, a guy who wasn't good enough to even get his college team a .500 record, is some can't miss prospect. I've watched over 10 hours of film and draft talk about this guy. There is no doubt he is good. But I don't at all view him as he is so good there is no way I am trading for him. On top of that, if he gets drafted by the Spurs, right off the bat he will NOT be able to put his best skill to use, coming off screens and getting to the rim, to it's fullest because our best guard has that as his best trait and our second best guard has it as his second best trait. I don't see any other part of Harpers game that is even nba average outside of him getting to the rim with the ball in his hands. When I watch him do that I think to myself "well we won't see much of that when he is on the floor with Fox cause that is what Fox does. Might not see much of that when he is on the floor with Castle cause that is what Castle does."
I view that as the spurs tripling down on a skillset. So then I say will maybe these other perennial playoff teams are doing that, let me go look at their roster. Outside of 3 point shooting and defense, I don't see one playoff team trying to triple down on a skillset. Celtics have Tatum and Brown to create isolation offense I don't see them trying to go get KD or Dame to be the 3rd person to do it. Knicks has Kat and Brunson I don't see them trying to go get a 3rd guy to do it. I guess maybe you could say the Clippers with Kawhi Norm and Harden but they went home in the first round. And then I say to myself if all these other teams who are the 6th seed or higher for years in a row, make the playoffs for years in a row, and actually win playoffs series aren't doing it, then why is the team with 6 consecutive losing seasons who never make the playoffs and never win anything or even remotely compete for anything doing it?
To me that is the main point. The teams that are good and compete do not have 3 guards who number one skill set is getting to the rim and try to shoe horn them together. But the team who has had exactly 0 success at pretty much anything in 6 years is? Skeptical poopbox is skeptical.
that's what they should be doing. If a team is willing to give up the farm you can take the deal. If not draft Harper. They will only trade it for a massive overpay.
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