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holiday back to Portland is hilarious
Issue is that it sort of sets the market for what you going to pay for bigs, which I think is higher than people probably thought. Few years ago you could get decent bigs for less than MLE money.
Did not have Simons to the Celtics for Jrue on my bingo card.
Interesting move.
Why would anyone want Holliday’s contract, let alone throw in picks with an expiring contract?
What a random trade. Idk why Portland did this unless they want a mentor for Scoot that badly
Yeah taking on 3 years and just over $100M for a breaking down 35yo Jrue Holiday seems weird for Portland. I thought Simons could have got you a FRP despite only having a year left on his deal.
Boston absolutely fleeced. Brad Steven’s one of a GM/president
I just can’t imagine why anyone would actively want that Holliday contract. It’s terrible. I see a lot of people on Twitter saying they like it for both teams. no, Boston crushed it. They’ll flip Simons for something and save a boatload of money and come away with a bunch of assets for an albatross contract.
Simons fits well next to white
He’s on an expiring try out contract, so he’ll be busting ass.
Phenomenal trade by the Celtics
Simons is pretty overrated. Classic empty stats. But he'll be able to soak up points and minutes for a Boston team trading water. They get to shed bad salary.
I get Portland wanting some serious veteran leadership, but that's a bad salary and age. I feel like they could have kicked Simons over to Orlando or something, and don't get why they owe SRPs.
But in the end this seems pretty inconsequential. Boston is going to be middle of the pack. Portland wants to try to get into the playoffs and this may help for a year or two.
^ they gave up 2nds because Jrue had other suitors Im guessing.
Hands down the best GM in the league and it aint close.
Said them picks and that apron and put together the most expensive team in nba history.
Won a chip.
Now he about to tear it down before any of the money he paid even kicks in.
ing masterful. I legit would trade all our future 1st round picks to have Stevens as our GM or Pres of Basketball Ops.
Dude is a cold blooded assassin who only cares about building teams and tearing them down to build another team.
He'd have the power of friendship traded before he got his texas drivers license in the mail.
I think Jrue has one more productive season before he really falls off. This makes the Blazers better next year which I don’t love tbh. West playoff race is gonna be a bloodbath.
Don't forget that we are only 1 of 3 teams in the modern era to have 6 consecutive losing seasons ( Wizards and Kings are the other 2). We truly are in uncharted waters. If you look to your left all you will see is those kings teams from the mid 200's and if you look to your right you will see the post john wall wizards.
Don't think that is why the blazers traded for him. There are always going to be teams who strike out in free agency and don't get the player or players they wanted, and as the season goes on they get more and more desperate, usually cause their jobs are on the line, and they overpay for some veteran as a hail mary save our season move. That guy will be Jrue and Portland will be able to flip him for something more useful down the line.
I think Simonds is a solid scorer, I much prefer Fox, but I thought Simonds was a solid back up plan if the Kings traded him elsewhere. I think this puts Boston in the middle of the pack. Maybe Spurs can get Hauser since they got a shooter to replace his scoring now.
So how many picks have Portland gotten for him? Two from Boston and one? from the Milwaukee trade? And they now get him back for dumping Simons?
I don’t like the trade for either team. Boston didn’t help their financial situation much and Jrue’s contract was a decent option for that. They must have other deals close, specifically for Porzingis, but it might not be enough to get them under the second apron.
Portland have no direction and are doubling down on it. Meh. Jrue would have made much more sense in Sacramento, Dallas or Clippers.
Funny enough those are some of the teams who are listed as in on trying to trade for him, which is why Portland had to give up picks.
Now Portland gets to go to those same teams and negotiate a trade
While it didnt shave off a lot of salary this year with regard to 2nd apron, it did save 40M in luxury tax + its expiring which is huge. And they got paid picks as well. My guess is Simons would have some teams that value him positively too and can likely shed more salary in another trade while netting another couple 2nds.
Possibly. Boston are in such a dire financial situation they’re going to have to continue wheeling and dealing. My point was that Jrue’s contract was their best option to break down into two and trade one of them into an exception to get real savings on the apron. Teams are probably lowballing them horrifically knowing how pressed against the wall they are.
At first the trade seemed pretty lopsided, but the Blazers likely weren't looking to pay Simmons or extend him to what he wanted. Teams weren't going to give much knowing he was on the way out.
With jrue, you have a legitimate trade piece for teams that are in win now mode or need an injury replacement. They have him locked up for a couple years.
Now if they just buy him out or something, I honestly don't understand at all what the trade was. If theyre just betting to get a return on holiday with the trade deadline desperation times, I can see it as a decent move. He will help guide those youngins. We saw first hand how important vererans can be to helping guide younger players.
Cheap guidance rental with possible flip side.
I think (as you said) KP has solid value so they could go with the “interesting but expiring player + getting 2 2nds” move for Jrue.
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