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    Per Jake Fisher. Zingus is an expiring contract this year so he'd need an extension if the Spurs were to trade for him. Due $30.7M this season.

    Boston might be trying to get him off the books as they're still over the 2nd apron right now.


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    What is up with this dudes mysterious illness? Does he have long COVID or something? Because he's already injury prone and this is just another issue for him

    I do think he would be perfect as a backup for Victor though and SA could manage his load throughout the season. If we can dump the friendship crew for him I'm all for it. He's on the last year of his deal next season and could free up some space for us next summer

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    Per Jake Fisher.

    I have been saying this was a no-brainer. The only hitch is whether Porzingis will recover quickly from his post-viral syndrome issues. The Spurs have good doctors to advise them though.

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    Wemby 7’6 and Porzingis 7’2 starting front court? Damn

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    Per Jake Fisher.

    I doubt Celtics want Devin after getting Simons.
    We'd need to send out $23.25M to make the trade legal, Celtics obviously want cap relief.

    Barnes+Branham or Wesley works.
    We could also do Keldon+Branham+Wesley.

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    Barnes/Branham for KP works tbh

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    Spurs have liked Porzingis for a long time. He was even a part of a supposed feud between the Spurs and Knicks FOs at one time. He's probably going to be cheap so the stars are aligning. His illness is a huge question mark, he was a walking corpse by the end of the season.

    Another issue is that Boston need to get below the 2nd apron, and ideally below the tax too, and they're running out of contracts to do so. Porzingis for a Barnes + Branham package works and saves Boston some money, but not nearly enough. Beyond that they have to rely on sending Hauser into a TE, then White, Brown. They're running out of contracts to spin. Simons could theoretically be on the move once more.

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    would be a smart move, as long as he's healthy again. Would also make it easier for Jeremy to play.

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    We would easily have the best C rotation in the league, but what is going on with his health?

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    One way to do this deal is like this -

    Spurs to Celtics - Malaki Branham and the 38th pick
    Celtics to Spurs - Porzingis and the 28th pick
    Spurs to Nets - Barnes, Keldon and the 14th pick
    Nets to Spurs - Cam Johnson

    This way, the Nets retain their picks and get the 14th one as well. They can try using the 8th and 14th to move up the draft or combine the 19th, 26th and 27th for future picks/ their preferred target.

    The Spurs get Porzingis and can choose one among talent ranging from Rasheer Fleming to Ryan Kalkbrenner to Maxime Raynaud to Will Riley among others in the 27-30th pick range.

    The Celtics get below the second apron by trading Porzingis and maybe even below the first apron ($2.78 million for its FRP + $30.73 million for Porzingis = $33.51 million - $4.9 million (for Branham) = $28.6 million.. that is just below the $29.9 million it needs to get below the first apron). It allows them to lose some salary for what is clearly going to a gap year with Tatum's injury and retool for later.

    The Spurs get Porzingis and Cam Johnson to augment their frontcourt (Stretch wing/ SF/PF in the case of Johnson and shot blocking stretch 5/4 in Porzingis to back up Wemby). Branham is redundant for the Spurs with a strong guard rotation in Fox, Harper, Castle and Vassell.

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    would be a smart move, as long as he's healthy again. Would also make it easier for Jeremy to play.
    He's never healthy.
    Played more than 60 games once since 2017.

    Another issue is that Boston need to get below the 2nd apron, and ideally below the tax too, and they're running out of contracts to do so. Porzingis for a Barnes + Branham package works and saves Boston some money, but not nearly enough. Beyond that they have to rely on sending Hauser into a TE, then White, Brown. They're running out of contracts to spin. Simons could theoretically be on the move once more.
    Can they keep trading down if we're talking salaries?
    As in they take $23M from us and shed $7M from the salary cap, then they move Barnes and his $19M for someone even cheaper?
    Same goes for Simons.

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    Im pretty sure they gonna want a 1st round pick or there swap back that we have with them.
    No way i do that for someone who cant stay healthy.

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    Im pretty sure they gonna want a 1st round pick or there swap back that we have with them.
    No way i do that for someone who cant stay healthy.
    They're desperate to move below 2nd apron in order to not have their pick frozen.
    They moved Jrue, the only other players they can and want to move are Porzingis and Hauser.
    They don't want to also lose Pritchard or one of White/Brown.

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    Can they keep trading down if we're talking salaries?
    As in they take $23M from us and shed $7M from the salary cap, then they move Barnes and his $19M for someone even cheaper?
    Same goes for Simons.
    Theoretically they can keep wheeling and dealing contracts, but for as long as they're above the aprons they'll have the corresponding trade restrictions. Sounds more like a video game plan, not a real life one.

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    Not interested unless (1) someone is taking Vassell's contract and (2) the Spurs aren't extending him. Don't want to trade Barnes for this China doll.

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    He's never healthy.
    Played more than 60 games once since 2017.



    Can they keep trading down if we're talking salaries?
    As in they take $23M from us and shed $7M from the salary cap, then they move Barnes and his $19M for someone even cheaper?
    Same goes for Simons.
    I know. I'm just saying from whatever he had in the playoffs. He'll be a bench player here and get plenty of load management. We'll probably still draft a big.

    One way to do this deal is like this -

    Spurs to Celtics - Malaki Branham and the 38th pick
    Celtics to Spurs - Porzingis and the 28th pick
    Spurs to Nets - Barnes, Keldon and the 14th pick
    Nets to Spurs - Cam Johnson

    This way, the Nets retain their picks and get the 14th one as well. They can try using the 8th and 14th to move up the draft or combine the 19th, 26th and 27th for future picks/ their preferred target.

    The Spurs get Porzingis and can choose one among talent ranging from Rasheer Fleming to Ryan Kalkbrenner to Maxime Raynaud to Will Riley among others in the 27-30th pick range.

    The Celtics get below the second apron by trading Porzingis and maybe even below the first apron ($2.78 million for its FRP + $30.73 million for Porzingis = $33.51 million - $4.9 million (for Branham) = $28.6 million.. that is just below the $29.9 million it needs to get below the first apron). It allows them to lose some salary for what is clearly going to a gap year with Tatum's injury and retool for later.

    The Spurs get Porzingis and Cam Johnson to augment their frontcourt (Stretch wing/ SF/PF in the case of Johnson and shot blocking stretch 5/4 in Porzingis to back up Wemby). Branham is redundant for the Spurs with a strong guard rotation in Fox, Harper, Castle and Vassell.
    why would you trade Keldon, Barnes and #14 for Cam Johnson? I don't get the affection with this dude. You can do the whole trade without the Brooklyn part. John Collins, PJ Washington and Santi Aldama are out there on the market for second round picks and matching salary.

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    I'm not interested. Dude can't stay on the court & is getting older.

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    It's not the worst gamble if the Spurs want to clean house. When it doesn't work out, there could be some net money saved.

    From just a player standpoint I'd rather sign Kornet.

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    PaulGarciaNBA just posted that Spurs have had exploratory talks but not interested/not moving forward at this time so maybe Boston is asking for too much. (paraphrasing since I don't have access to X to post exact verbiage)

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    I know. I'm just saying from whatever he had in the playoffs. He'll be a bench player here and get plenty of load management. We'll probably still draft a big.



    why would you trade Keldon, Barnes and #14 for Cam Johnson? I don't get the affection with this dude. You can do the whole trade without the Brooklyn part. John Collins, PJ Washington and Santi Aldama are out there on the market for second round picks and matching salary.
    Its Keldon, Barnes, #14 for Cam Johnson, Porzingis and the 28th pick.

    I think Johnson is a perfect fit for a frontcourt that has Sochan and Wemby in it. He is a very accurate 3 point shooter, a capable role player who always excelled in the Suns team and has improved as a player over time rather than being typecast as a catch and shoot 3 & D player.

    I like PJ Washington Jr too. But I dont think the idiot GM of the Mavericks wants to trade him to us. And Collins, I suspect will opt-in and remain with the Jazz while the Grizzlies are clearing cap space to retain Aldama as well.

    Getting Porzingis obviates the need to get Collins (who is more of a low calories player, IMO).

    Thats my thinking.

    Lastly, doing the trade with the Nets incentivizes the Celtics to get below the 2nd and even the 1st apron much more easily. It makes a win-win-win for all three teams (although it leaves the Nets with too many FRPs in the same year!).

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    he looked washed, but he is intriguing at least

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    Brook Lopez is older but played in more games the last two seasons. I’d rather get him and pay 1/3 of the salary.

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    Trading Barnes and one of Wesley or Branham for Porzingis would be a decent trade. After that, Spurs could add Yabusele via FA.

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