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    ive been out on Essengue at 14 anyway, so this doesnt move the needle for me

    sitting out to preserve draft stock is not something id really frown upon imo. probably agent driven more than anything else and is playing it safe with his future on the line.

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    Coward has an unfortunate name and birthday.

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    I was just about to post that I'm worried about this exact move and here they come
    Teams will make them pay dearly for this move with future draft capital. No one wants to help the champs.

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    yeah that would allow them to come off the Hartenstein contract when they have to extend Holmgren and J-Will. It would also mean they get a big who can actually contest Wemby's jumpshots.
    Chet is a slightly smaller Wemby, and he can’t even contest him. Maluach wouldn’t stand a chance. Wemby is literally uncontested on any jumper.

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    SAS going after maluach has been the rumour for a while now. certainly aligns with the latest intel from jake fischer.


    problem is OKC/PHX/ATL/TOR may have shared interest. as with the durant saga we all know PATFO will back down from a trade war once too many interested parties arrive on the scene.


    his ceiling is probably #5 to UTA and absolute floor is #9 to TOR. a team may have to deal with CHA at #4 to guarantee they get the player.


    UTA at #5 could be convinced to trade down but expect a fleece job. WAS at #6 could be an option depending on how much they like ace bailey. NOP at #7 likewise. if bailey is still on the board at #8 i'd expect BKN to turn down trade offers but they could be open for business if he's off the board by that point.


    i wouldn't expect it to happen tbh. will be pissed off if PATFO pass on that opportunity *and* let OKC jump up a few spots to take the next best big on the board (sorber/beringer) as their long-term harstenstein replacement though.

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    SAS going after maluach has been the rumour for a while now. certainly aligns with the latest intel from jake fischer.


    problem is OKC/PHX/ATL/TOR may have shared interest. as with the durant saga we all know PATFO will back down from a trade war once too many interested parties arrive on the scene.


    his ceiling is probably #5 to UTA and absolute floor is #9 to TOR. a team may have to deal with CHA at #4 to guarantee they get the player.


    UTA at #5 could be convinced to trade down but expect a fleece job. WAS at #6 could be an option depending on how much they like ace bailey. NOP at #7 likewise. if bailey is still on the board at #8 i'd expect BKN to turn down trade offers but they could be open for business if he's off the board by that point.


    i wouldn't expect it to happen tbh. will be pissed off if PATFO pass on that opportunity *and* let OKC jump up a few spots to take the next best big on the board (sorber/beringer) as their long-term harstenstein replacement though.
    Spurs can't really stop OKC from jumping them if they really want to do it. They've jumped what they thought the Spurs were going to do before -- apparently grabbing Cason Wallace (we're not clear on this). Thunder are coming out of this draft with a player they like. Tbh Sorber or whoever is about the same as Hartenstein. Good for them.

    My gut is that this may be a smokescreen or misdirection for the Spurs and they're looking for someone else.

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    Spurs are NOT trading 3x1st to get backup C for 15 minutes a night.

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    Coward has an unfortunate name and birthday.
    9/11?

    Reminds me that tragedy...

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    Spurs are NOT trading 3x1st to get backup C for 15 minutes a night.
    Who says backup?

    I think we need a starter to pair with Wemby and I'm sure it's the idea behind those rumors

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    Spurs are NOT trading 3x1st to get backup C for 15 minutes a night.
    If they trade up, they're not drafting a backup, they're drafting a starter. All of the signs seem to be pointing that Vic/PATFO want Vic on the wing.

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    I bet they would take Sorber as well if Maluach is gone. I like Sorber or Coward at 14
    How about Berringer ?

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    Don't forget about Topic.

    Can't wait to see him in Vegas in a couple weeks.
    Has his neck grown any in a year?

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    If they trade up, they're not drafting a backup, they're drafting a starter. All of the signs seem to be pointing that Vic/PATFO want Vic on the wing.
    Vic's not a wing with those handles

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    Vic's not a wing with those handles
    well apparently he doesn't want to play center so...

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    Spurs can't really stop OKC from jumping them if they really want to do it. They've jumped what they thought the Spurs were going to do before -- apparently grabbing Cason Wallace (we're not clear on this). Thunder are coming out of this draft with a player they like. Tbh Sorber or whoever is about the same as Hartenstein. Good for them.

    My gut is that this may be a smokescreen or misdirection for the Spurs and they're looking for someone else.
    Yes,


    There is going to be a run on the centers anyways right before the Spurs pick and not worth going c at 14 after Maluach, Queen and Sorber are all gone.

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    well apparently he doesn't want to play center so...
    stop believing every little thing you hear from random sources you hadnt heard about 5 minutes ago

    some podcast bro who says "is 35 available for KD in san antonio"

    or some cbs guy nobody had heard of who said "reportedy" (meaning its not his source, its some report he claims he has read, which we cant find) wemby doesnt want to play center

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    stop believing every little thing you hear from random sources you hadnt heard about 5 minutes ago

    some podcast bro who says "is 35 available for KD in san antonio"

    or some cbs guy nobody had heard of who said "reportedy" (meaning its not his source, its some report he claims he has read, which we cant find) wemby doesnt want to play center
    Yeah I really don’t buy that Wemby is going around flat-out claiming he doesn’t want to play center. I’m sure he doesn’t want to be relegated to only playing a traditional center-type role (I.e. stuck only being in the paint on defense, only being a roll guy on offense), but I seriously doubt he’s over there telling the Spurs’ FO they need to get a center because he’s not going to play that position

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    I have a question regarding Draft day trades. How do they normally work? Are there talks or even agreements between teams in the days/weeky before the Draft? Like Team A has an agreement in in principal with Team B, that if player X is available when they pick, we'll call and talk about a trade centered around our pick and/or player Y. Or do these trades happen on the fly?

    Apologies if that's a stupid question, but I have to admit, I'm totally clueless about this...

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    Take Harper at 2 and then best available player according to your board at 14

    No need to overcomplicate this

    You are coming off a 34 win season. Yeah I know Wemby and Fox missed time

    Wemby, Castle, and Harper are all 21 or under. Take another 21 or under at 14

    Nothing better than elite young players on rookie deals
    Harper is not better than Bailey.

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    I have a question regarding Draft day trades. How do they normally work? Are there talks or even agreements between teams in the days/weeky before the Draft? Like Team A has an agreement in in principal with Team B, that if player X is available when they pick, we'll call and talk about a trade centered around our pick and/or player Y. Or do these trades happen on the fly?

    Apologies if that's a stupid question, but I have to admit, I'm totally clueless about this...
    I would think on the fly as it depends who's available.

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    Yeah I really don’t buy that Wemby is going around flat-out claiming he doesn’t want to play center. I’m sure he doesn’t want to be relegated to only playing a traditional center-type role (I.e. stuck only being in the paint on defense, only being a roll guy on offense), but I seriously doubt he’s over there telling the Spurs’ FO they need to get a center because he’s not going to play that position
    Sorber would be a perfect C for us. But he's projected at 12, so Spurs have to go get him. If they trade down a spot, and grab Bailey at #3. The extra pick they get can be used to trade Up for Sorber.

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    I have a question regarding Draft day trades. How do they normally work? Are there talks or even agreements between teams in the days/weeky before the Draft? Like Team A has an agreement in in principal with Team B, that if player X is available when they pick, we'll call and talk about a trade centered around our pick and/or player Y. Or do these trades happen on the fly?

    Apologies if that's a stupid question, but I have to admit, I'm totally clueless about this...
    But you're right, I'm sure pretalks happen too...so combination of both.

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    But you're right, I'm sure pretalks happen too...so combination of both.
    Yeah, that seems to be logical.

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    I have a question regarding Draft day trades. How do they normally work? Are there talks or even agreements between teams in the days/weeky before the Draft? Like Team A has an agreement in in principal with Team B, that if player X is available when they pick, we'll call and talk about a trade centered around our pick and/or player Y. Or do these trades happen on the fly?

    Apologies if that's a stupid question, but I have to admit, I'm totally clueless about this...
    Depends. Sometimes teams workout a deal before the draft but it depends on if the player they want is on the board when on the clock. Or perhaps if a team wants out because the player they wanted is no longer available.

    Other times teams will call while you are on the clock. A tactic to put pressure on you. It may or may not work but these General Managers learn a lot about each other in the process.

    The Spurs trading up for Kawhi Leonard was an example of the 1st scenario. The pacers wanted out of the pick and Liked George Hill. The Spurs only wanted to trade up if Kawhi Leonard or Klay Thompson were still available. The deal was agreed upon before the draft.

    The Spurs trading pick #8 last year was an example of scenario 2. Spurs were prepared to pick a player and the Timberwolves called while they were on the clock and made an offer the Spurs liked. I get the feeling Spurs didn’t feel overwhelmingly confident about the players on the board so the T-wolves bailed them out.

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    Harper was already interviewed, you can rewind, I can't post a timestamp because it's still live.

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