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    At first the trade seemed pretty lopsided, but the Blazers likely weren't looking to pay Simmons or extend him to what he wanted. Teams weren't going to give much knowing he was on the way out.

    With jrue, you have a legitimate trade piece for teams that are in win now mode or need an injury replacement. They have him locked up for a couple years.

    Now if they just buy him out or something, I honestly don't understand at all what the trade was. If theyre just betting to get a return on holiday with the trade deadline desperation times, I can see it as a decent move. He will help guide those youngins. We saw first hand how important vererans can be to helping guide younger players.

    Cheap guidance rental with possible flip side.
    But they gave up 2 2nds for him which is the odd part. Would be one thing if they got picks for saving BOS 40M + eating Jrue deal but they paid to do this

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    But they gave up 2 2nds for him which is the odd part. Would be one thing if they got picks for saving BOS 40M + eating Jrue deal but they paid to do this
    Well he does have value still, besides whether people like him or not. Still a champion, leader, above average defender and can be reliable in a pinch. He has value.

    Simmons was out the door. I do think he could have fetched more at the right time but they waited too late for that probably.

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    Well he does have value still, besides whether people like him or not. Still a champion, leader, above average defender and can be reliable in a pinch. He has value.

    Simmons was out the door. I do think he could have fetched more at the right time but they waited too late for that probably.
    Sure just saying they could have likely gotten a 2nd for Simons still or let him walk for nothing and keep their 2 2nds and salary cap clear, but they paid picks to take on Jrue. MeansIMO they intend to keep him

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    Joe Cronin been hanging out in Cabo with Nico, drinking that "defense wins championships" cool aid, except Joe was fresh out of Lukas to trade.

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    Reporting is that Gafford's extension is sized in a way that makes it immediately trade eligible. I'm not familiar with those rules, but I believe the people saying it.
    The difference between extend and trade and simple vet extension is that for the former it’s up to 120%, instead of 140%, and up to 3 years with 5% raises. It works out at less than the reported 60 million but there might be unlikely incentives in there as well.

    Him signing this type of extension makes him more likely to be traded eventually.

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    I'm impressed Boston got value for Holiday given the age, contract, and clubs financial pressure. Portland kinda sent them a lifeline tbh

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    I'm impressed Boston got value for Holiday given the age, contract, and clubs financial pressure. Portland kinda sent them a lifeline tbh
    Jrue is still a very good player, they just can't afford him. I'd love him on the Spurs if not for the fact that we are already loaded at guard with good, young pieces.

    I think Boston realizes next season is a wash and are desperate to get under the second apron. Wouldn't be surprised if they try to shed Porzingis as well.

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    I think Porzingis is gone too. One because of his contract and Bostons financial situation, and two because of his unreliable health, three because Boston is looking at next season as a retool.

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    Yeah, Porzingis should be gone.
    Hauser the third candidate they'll probably move.

    Spurs should give Celtics a call about Hauser if he can be obtained for a handful of seconds.
    6'8, elite shooter and not a traffic cone on defense. I'd rather have him than LaRavia, tbh.
    Amazing 10 to 12 million a year contract up until 2029.

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    Yeah, Porzingis should be gone.
    Hauser the third candidate they'll probably move.

    Spurs should give Celtics a call about Hauser if he can be obtained for a handful of seconds.
    6'8, elite shooter and not a traffic cone on defense. I'd rather have him than LaRavia, tbh.
    Amazing 10 to 12 million a year contract up until 2029.
    I also think he'll have a better role here because Fox etc can attack the rim and their gravity can give better looks.

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    i expect both players to pick up those options.

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    I like it for Portland. Like how we got Chris Paul last year, they need some veteran leadership plus he's a strong defender who can help define the team going forward. Simons is badly overrated. It's a good trade.

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    Poole traded to the Pels for CJ and Olynyk

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    Poole traded to the Pels for CJ and Olynyk
    Poole and Saddiq Bey. It has to be for Saddiq Bay, right ? Why else would they pick additional year of Poole over expiring CJ

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    Phew. I was worried when I heard CJ’s name mentioned with the spurs. So glad that is not happening

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    Poole traded to the Pels for CJ and Olynyk
    I like what Washington has been doing in recent years

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    As things stand now, Wizards will have only Kispert and rookie contracts on the books after 25-26 season ends.
    $100M in cap space and another high lottery pick.

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    Phew. I was worried when I heard CJ’s name mentioned with the spurs. So glad that is not happening
    They already have tank commander in Middelton and Smart. CJ will be bought out.

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    Wizards making long term decisions.

    This can mean Bailey to the Wiz. Fears probably out for Pels.

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    I wonder how Wizards will up all this cap space next offseason

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    They already have tank commander in Middelton and Smart. CJ will be bought out.
    Damnit. I really hope the front office is smarter than to mess with McCollum

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    A second or two for Olynyk?

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