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    Toronto apparently has offered the 9 in a package for Derrick White. They may be pushing for contention, though their roster is kind of a mess.
    They're in that too trash to compete too good to tank area.

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    They're in that too trash to compete too good to tank area.
    Masai is the definition of a one season wonder.

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    Hawks are trying to grab Bailey.
    I would love that, even more if it involves shipping out players rather than future picks. Very little chance Bailey is a positive contributor to winning as a rookie.

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    They're in that too trash to compete too good to tank area.
    The east is so wide open this year. I agree they're a mess, though.

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    Masai is the definition of a one season wonder.
    "Wow! My team is really good but keeps ting its pants against Bron in the playoffs. Oh look, an MVP level player multi-time DPOY is available, let me just ship a low level all star derozan and our rookie and sum picks. Hurray we win!"

    Like it was literally so easy.

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    Guess I'd say:

    good with Sorber, okay with Coward, probably have him above Carter Bryant

    not okay with Beringer at all, that would suck

    good with trading back and plucking a McNeeley type

    the players I'd probably grab if they slipped, as said, are the likes of Demin or Queen, Jaku but I think Jaku goes earlier. They're flawed but too good to miss.

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    I would love that, even more if it involves shipping out players rather than future picks. Very little chance Bailey is a positive contributor to winning as a rookie.
    Trae would love a player like Ace though

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    The part of the draft I'm mostly looking forward to is when the Spurs select somebody unexpected at 14 and for a while we won't know if they're trading him or not. F5 won't work on ST, per par.

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    I have to wonder at all of these rumors surrounding D White and Brown. There's no guarantee that Tatum even comes back post achilles injury at the same level. It'd be a risky move to think you can rebuild around him from the ground up. I wonder if any GMs out there are exploring trade offers for Tatum, even knowing he'll be either out and/or reacclimating for the next 18 months... That would be a dramatic & interesting story.

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    5 hrs 23 minutes and counting down es

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    You really have no shame.
    You just keep ting on everything and when someone calls you out with arguments that show how re ed your takes are, you switch topics and keep ting as if nothing happened.
    That's because you guys have hilariously bad basketball takes.

    Being called out by people who don't know what they are talking about isn't being called out.

    When you have 6 straight losing seasons you should probably be " ting on everything". It's not possible to be that bad that long with anything working. The only possible way to have that many losing seasons in a row is to whiff on draft picks whiff in free agency and whiff on trades.

    It's like this take of "let's emulate OKC". Ok fine. Step 1 is trading your second best player ( Paul George for OKC ) to another team for a player on a rookie contract with MVP potential ( SGA from the Clippers ). Our second best player is Fox. Who are we trading Fox for that is on a rookie contract and has superstar / mvp potential? And if the answer is we are not going to do that, then how are you emulating OKC? Because if you are not willing to do the first step that OKC did to build a le team, then your not "emulating OKC". And no building around Victor like they built around SGA is not "emulating OKC" It's actually completely impossible because if how wildly different they play basketball. The type of team you need to build around a scoring guard is not the type of team you need to build around a two way face up big.

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    I have to wonder at all of these rumors surrounding D White and Brown. There's no guarantee that Tatum even comes back post achilles injury at the same level. It'd be a risky move to think you can rebuild around him from the ground up. I wonder if any GMs out there are exploring trade offers for Tatum, even knowing he'll be either out and/or reacclimating for the next 18 months... That would be a dramatic & interesting story.
    If the Celtics hadn't already started tearing down the rest of the team with the Jrue and Porzingis trades it would be interesting to think about. No way they do that now, even if it would have made sense on paper.

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    That's because you guys have hilariously bad basketball takes.

    Being called out by people who don't know what they are talking about isn't being called out.

    When you have 6 straight losing seasons you should probably be " ting on everything". It's not possible to be that bad that long with anything working. The only possible way to have that many losing seasons in a row is to whiff on draft picks whiff in free agency and whiff on trades.

    It's like this take of "let's emulate OKC". Ok fine. Step 1 is trading your second best player ( Paul George for OKC ) to another team for a player on a rookie contract with MVP potential ( SGA from the Clippers ). Our second best player is Fox. Who are we trading Fox for that is on a rookie contract and has superstar / mvp potential? And if the answer is we are not going to do that, then how are you emulating OKC? Because if you are not willing to do the first step that OKC did to build a le team, then your not "emulating OKC". And no building around Victor like they built around SGA is not "emulating OKC" It's actually completely impossible because if how wildly different they play basketball. The type of team you need to build around a scoring guard is not the type of team you need to build around a two way face up big.
    Re stop trying to strawman me I'm not even reading your anymore.
    I took the time to reply to all of your horrible takes one by one with nothing but facts.
    Either reply to the post I linked or don't quote me again.

    Until then, I'll call out every re ed post you make.

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    Trae would love a player like Ace though
    Ace wouldn’t love Trae dominating the ball, though.

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    Ace wouldn’t love Trae dominating the ball, though.
    If Bailey is available at #14, would you take him? He seems making efforts to fall and land to a desired team, Spurs??

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    If Bailey is available at #14, would you take him? He seems making efforts to fall and land to a desired team, Spurs??
    Whitmore slid all the way to #20 and still looks like a disappointing pick, even for that late.
    You don't take players with character issues unless their basketball talent is overwhelming, which doesn't seem to be the case with Bailey.

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    I have to wonder at all of these rumors surrounding D White and Brown. There's no guarantee that Tatum even comes back post achilles injury at the same level. It'd be a risky move to think you can rebuild around him from the ground up. I wonder if any GMs out there are exploring trade offers for Tatum, even knowing he'll be either out and/or reacclimating for the next 18 months... That would be a dramatic & interesting story.
    I have no doubts you could get Jaylen Brown with like 90% of the Giannis package. If the Spurs offered the number 2 pick and Castle I 100% thinks Brad pulls the trigger on that, even though Jaylen should go down as an iconic Celtics player ( literally drafted to the team when it was utter garbage and ended up winning a le with them ) . Of course the Spurs shouldn't be doing that deal. I bet you don't even need to add Castle just the number 2 pick plus salary filler would get it done. Spurs don't need to be doing that either.

    I know everyone is focusing just on the money saved but getting below the second apron also means the Celtics can now aggregate players without issue in a Jaylen Brown deal. Would have been almost mechanically impossible to trade him when they were in the second apron. Not so much now.

    Tatum will probably be mostly fine in 2 years. He doesn't play an over the top athletic game. Would be pretty wild for somebody to try and "buy low" on him though. His 300 million dollar contract starts this coming season to.

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    If the Celtics hadn't already started tearing down the rest of the team with the Jrue and Porzingis trades it would be interesting to think about. No way they do that now, even if it would have made sense on paper.
    Honestly, I don't see it as tearing down. I've liked Jrue for a long time, but he's 35 now, showing clear signs of decline, and expensive. Trading him at this point for a younger scorer and a huge dollar savings feels pretty reasonable. Porzingis has major health concerns, is also paid a lot, and is about to turn 30, which considering his injury history could be a milestone year, especially since Boston views next season as a gap year without Tatum. I'd say that considering the specific situation the Celtics are in, these trades are both pretty smart moves.

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    According to CBS, some teams have discovered Jase Richardson has a troublesome injury history with one of his legs. They think he slips to mid-low 20s now.

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    Saw mention elsewhere that Utah might be discussing Jaylen Brown to Utah?! Nothing to substantiate, but regardless, if Boston deals JB that 2028 swap looks a whole lot sweeter. If I'm Boston, I try to undo that swap as soon as possible.

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    Whitmore slid all the way to #20 and still looks like a disappointing pick, even for that late.
    You don't take players with character issues unless their basketball talent is overwhelming, which doesn't seem to be the case with Bailey.
    But then again there’s Jalen Johnson who I wanted, but of course has that “character issue”.

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    According to CBS, some teams have discovered Jase Richardson has a troublesome injury history with one of his legs. They think he slips to mid-low 20s now.
    I'd love to trade back with Brooklyn for the 19 or 22 along with one of the 26/27 and get Richardson with one of them. I don't care about an injury history. Also, this coming out late is a little suss.

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    I'd love to trade back with Brooklyn for the 19 or 22 along with one of the 26/27 and get Richardson with one of them. I don't care about an injury history. Also, this coming out late is a little suss.
    He's a point guard sized shooting guard?
    Is that really what we need?

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    He's a point guard sized shooting guard?
    Is that really what we need?
    I take a basketball player over anyone else. He'll be coming off the bench and at that point position doesn't matter. He's a baller.

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    I take a basketball player over anyone else. He'll be coming off the bench and at that point position doesn't matter. He's a baller.
    I get your point, but with Fox/Castle/Harper/Vassell guaranteed to have guard minutes, it makes no sense.

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