Grades: Spurs Draft Dylan Harper and Carter Bryant and Trade No. 38

[timvp]

https://www.spurstalk.com/grades-spu...carter-bryant/

[FlAVaK]

great draft

thx

[benefactor]

Thanks. Good to hear they might try to get back into the second. No reason not to with the prospects available.

[Robz4000]

If the Spurs could flip some future seconds into Fleming/Kalkbrenner/Raynaud, this draft becomes an A+ tbh.

[cutewizard]

Thank you Sir

[exstatic]

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[mudyez]

I agree on #38.

At first I was totally fine with trading it. But since the three guys mentioned are still on the board (plus Broome), I have a bad feeling we will regret it. At least one of them should slide to #38.

[Ignazzz]

Or price should be higher for #38 pick

[Eaglenole2002]

If the Spurs had gotten an insane overpay for pick 38 I could understand taking the offer and running. Even if you don’t love the players ranked in the 30s on your board, you owe it to yourself to wait it out and see what happens. Weight mentioned trying to trade up for Bryant last night. Would 38 have been useful? Maybe not. And now he’s talking about trading into round 2, and that just seems so absurd and just unbelievably bad process.

[Davidicus]

Hoping we trade back in without too much embarrassment. Too easy to find a backup C.

[benefactor]

The fact it's been mentioned that they might trade back in shows Wright knows he jumped too quickly to trade that pick away. Let's see if the mistake gets rectified

[Uriel]

I don’t see the point in trading back into the second round if the target is Raynaud / Kalkbrenner. Those guys will be gone by 38, especially Raynaud.

[Ice009]

I don’t see the point in trading back into the second round if the target is Raynaud / Kalkbrenner. Those guys will be gone by 38, especially Raynaud.

What you said doesn't make sense. The Spurs wouldn't be trading to get back pick 38, they'd be trading for an earlier second round pick to try and get Raynaud, Kalkbrenner or someone like Flemming even. They can try trading for an earlier 30's pick if one of the guys they want is still there.

Having said that, since Charlotte traded Mark Williams, is it likely they pick a center with one or both of their picks? Spurs might miss out due to team needs of the teams with those early second round picks. I think one of those Charlotte picks is worth trying to get, but that depends on who Charlotte wants to draft. They might take one or both of the guys the Spurs want.

[K...]

I just want to point out that the spurs often say "we had this guy higher and were shocked we got him" on non core lottery picks. it could be true in every situation but it also could be nice lie to boost the players confidence.

[CGD]

What you said doesn't make sense. The Spurs wouldn't be trading to get back pick 38, they'd be trading for an earlier second round pick to try and get Raynaud, Kalkbrenner or someone like Flemming even. They can try trading for an earlier 30's pick if one of the guys they want is still there.

Having said that, since Charlotte traded Mark Williams, is it likely they pick a center with one or both of their picks? Spurs might miss out due to team needs of the teams with those early second round picks. I think one of those Charlotte picks is worth trying to get, but that depends on who Charlotte wants to draft. They might take one or both of the guys the Spurs want.

Interestingly CHA has 33 and 34. I’m watching those picks.

[Ice009]

One of those Charlotte picks would be the one the Spurs should try and get IMO. I just don't know who Charlotte want with them. I think they're going to want to take at least 1 center with one of them, maybe even keep both and take two centers/players .

If not, pick 36 from Brooklyn could be in play as I doubt Brooklyn need anymore rookies, right? Surely they wouldn't want to use it? Not sure if any of the Spurs' targets slide that far, though.

[Dex]

The fact it's been mentioned that they might trade back in shows Wright knows he jumped too quickly to trade that pick away. Let's see if the mistake gets rectified

Either that or they already have a different plan to fill backup C...but yeah, whispers that they are trying to get back in at least signals an "oh " moment. Only reasonable conclusion would be if they are actually trying to move up in the second round, especially now knowing three options are on the board.

Bismack Biyombo, you are STILL a Spur!

[drpill]

I just want to point out that the spurs often say "we had this guy higher and were shocked we got him" on non core lottery picks. it could be true in every situation but it also could be nice lie to boost the players confidence.

I'm pretty sure it's true in this case. Bryant's projected skillset is exactly what the Spurs should be looking for, he has sky-high potential as an elite wing role player if not better, and his personality and background seem to be as Spursy as it gets. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he was one of the very highest rated wings on their board going into the draft. I've seen at least one analyst who had him #3 overall on his personal board, and most had him in or near the top ten.

That said, I agree with those saying he is going to need some time. I won't be surprised to see a lot of g-league minutes throughout the season depending on what happens with the rest of the roster. That too, makes him a good fit in the front office's eyes, as it feels unlikely that they really are prepared to move on from Keldon or Devin and they will definitely want to give Jeremy ample opportunity to prove he can work on this team.

[Guru of Nothing]

I won't hate bringing Biyombo back. He was able to fit into his role immediately last year, and if he's in for a full camp he should be adequate+.

[LeBowen]

That said, I agree with those saying he is going to need some time.

He obviously needs time to get to his projected level, but if he's a positive defender right away and is able to consistently hit open corner 3s, he should get 10 to 15mpg at the start of the season, which gets adjusted accordingly depending on his growth.

I won't be surprised to see a lot of g-league minutes throughout the season depending on what happens with the rest of the roster.

I think this depends on what the front office sees in him.
Do they think he can actually develop his self-creation that is non-existant now or they're fine with him becoming the next Bowen/Green?

[John B]

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ChatTimvp

Spurs got really lucky with Bryant, but at the cost of Sorber. #13 pick would’ve been the perfect opportunity to give Hawks back their future pick, and grabbed both Carter and Sorber.

Harper - A
Bryant - A
Trading 2nd round before the Draft started - F. You don’t leave money on the table, not knowing what the future holds.

Overall grade B. I think there was opportunity also to grab Sorber if Hawks was open to trading their pick #13.

[Ice009]

Do you mean they send him to the G-League if they think he can develop self-creation to work on that kind of stuff there?

Kawhi didn't go to the G-League to develop his game. He can still do it playing for the Spurs if he wants it enough and works his ass off on it (Sounds like he is going to try really hard to become a better player because he mentioned Kawhi by name and pointed out Kawhi's work ethic and self improvement on his game, so I think he's going to look to do something similar). He can start showing it in games little by little. I don't think he needs to go to the G-League to do that. Either way it can be done IMO (G-League or while playing on the Spurs).

ChatTimvp

Spurs got really lucky with Bryant, but at the cost of Sorber. #13 pick would’ve been the perfect opportunity to give Hawks back their future pick, and grabbed both Carter and Sorber.

Darn, that would have been a great opportunity to give an Atlanta pick back, then the Spurs could have had the option to not use it and traded that pick to NO for a better pick like Atlanta did. having said that, if both the Spurs and NO offered their trade at the same time, the Hawks wouldn't take their own pick back over what NO traded them. They Spurs would have had to get in before the NO offer.

[onechance87]

Get back in the second round and get fleming or penda.There defence along with bryant and wemby.That could be amazing.

[onechance87]

Do you mean they send him to the G-League if they think he can develop self-creation to work on that kind of stuff there?

Kawhi didn't go to the G-League to develop his game. He can still do it playing for the Spurs if he wants it enough and works his ass off on it. He can start showing it in games.

Yup hes not competing against guys that are not great.Guys like champ,sochan,vassell and keldon can get pushed back
cause sometimes they just aint that good.

[RC_Drunkford]

I'm pretty sure it's true in this case. Bryant's projected skillset is exactly what the Spurs should be looking for, he has sky-high potential as an elite wing role player if not better, and his personality and background seem to be as Spursy as it gets. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he was one of the very highest rated wings on their board going into the draft. I've seen at least one analyst who had him #3 overall on his personal board, and most had him in or near the top ten.

That said, I agree with those saying he is going to need some time. I won't be surprised to see a lot of g-league minutes throughout the season depending on what happens with the rest of the roster. That too, makes him a good fit in the front office's eyes, as it feels unlikely that they really are prepared to move on from Keldon or Devin and they will definitely want to give Jeremy ample opportunity to prove he can work on this team.

he most likely was high on their board, given they turned the pick in within 30 seconds. Seemed like a no-brainer move.