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    I would understand Spurs taking it slow this summer.

    Wembanyama, Fox, Harper and Castle is potentially one of the best core in the NBA. It's legit for Spurs to want to build around them and surrounding them with the right role players (mainly 3&D forwards). The upside of that core is really high.

    However, Spurs can't go all in (like Orlando did with Bane) because this promising core might fail. These players aren't a natural fit together and Castle/Harper are quite unproven. If this core fails, Spurs must be able to pivot to something else. To do so, they must keep some trade assets and financial flexibility.

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    I would understand Spurs taking it slow this summer.

    Wembanyama, Fox, Harper and Castle is potentially one of the best core in the NBA. It's legit for Spurs to want to build around them and surrounding them with the right role players (mainly 3&D forwards). The upside of that core is really high.

    However, Spurs can't go all in (like Orlando did with Bane) because this promising core might fail. These players aren't a natural fit together and Castle/Harper are quite unproven. If this core fails, Spurs must be able to pivot to something else. To do so, they must keep some trade assets and financial flexibility.
    Agree. An insane guard corps, especially considering we had absolutely nothing before last draft. Nothing.

    And then Wembanyama.

    That's a pretty incredible foundation. Just need bits and parts around them.

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    Tbh, I want Aldama if we get Sorber because he's the only one who can play both PF and backup C fairly well.
    He can start alongside Wemby and be the backup C if Sorber isn't good enough right away.
    since Memphis wants to shed salary:

    Aldama sign and trade for Branham works. Just saying.

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    since Memphis wants to shed salary:

    Aldama sign and trade for Branham works. Just saying.
    Not without a pick going their way.
    If they just want to get rid of him, they'll let him walk.

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    since Memphis wants to shed salary:

    Aldama sign and trade for Branham works. Just saying.
    It would be interesting to know what teams are looking to sneak under the aprons and would be interested in Malaki/Blake expirings.

    I had thought Boston would want to give up 10 slots by trading 28 for 38, but seems their other moves took care of their issues.

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    Not without a pick going their way.
    If they just want to get rid of him, they'll let him walk.
    I think you can get him for some second round picks. He can obviously decide where he wants to go. They just might want a cheap rotation player back, but the only useful one we got is Champagnie.

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    Just spitballin. Vassell and Branham (32M) come close to Gafford and Klay (31M), but don't really want Klay, at all.

    Is there a third team to inject here to net the Spurs a favorable return?

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    Trade for Okungo from Atlanta.
    Keldon/26swap return should do it.

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    Trade for Okungo from Atlanta.
    Keldon/26swap return should do it.
    I don't think that would be enough, they rate Okongwu highly.

    But I actually think they could use Devin.
    They lost Bogdanovic and they don't have any reliable shot creators other than Trae.
    He's also a local kid so Spurs wouldn't feel bad about trading him away.

    Devin+'26 swap returned for Okongwu+salary filler would be a good deal.

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    I found this little nugget on Elon's app:

    KOC is a full blown Spurs hater. He’s just trying to start noise, not realizing that MATFO pays zero attention to social media trolls.

    Spurs will keep Fox for whatever his extension is, then they’ll work with Klutch to find him a soft landing. He didn’t cost much, so we won’t have to recoup much.

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    Just spitballin. Vassell and Branham (32M) come close to Gafford and Klay (31M), but don't really want Klay, at all.

    Is there a third team to inject here to net the Spurs a favorable return?
    how many picks are you attaching to get the mavs to give up klay and gafford?

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    how many picks are you attaching to get the mavs to give up klay and gafford?
    I suppose Dallas can get a better return elsewhere.

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    Anyone thing Sean Marks might like Devin and/or Keldon to help command that tank?

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    how many picks are you attaching to get the mavs to give up klay and gafford?
    Klay is washed, and Branham is trash. Mavs need guard play as much as we need bigs. Even Steven.

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    Klay is washed, and Branham is trash. Mavs need guard play as much as we need bigs. Even Steven.
    this is delusional

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    Can we please give all those youtubers and "NBA pundits" a collective STFU on the Jaylen Brown trade scenarios?

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    Can we please give all those youtubers and "NBA pundits" a collective STFU on the Jaylen Brown trade scenarios?
    It was such an obviously bad trade idea. DPE's are anathema to team-building.

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    How realistic do you think a trade centered around Vucevic and Keldon Johnson could be?

    If it goes down:

    Fox --------- Harper
    Castle ----- Champagnie
    Vassell ----- Bryant
    Barnes ------ Sochan
    Wemby ----- Vucevic

    A much more cohesive rotation.

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    How realistic do you think a trade centered around Vucevic and Keldon Johnson could be?
    I think Bulls probably ask for a bit extra, I'd give them Wesley. He'll never get minutes with us and Bulls need a defense oriented guard to try and develop after losing Caruso and Lonzo.

    I said it before, I know Vucevic's defense is bad, but at least he's a good rebounder and he'd be our third best player on offense. He'd abuse most backup bigs.
    I'd much rather have Vucevic than Brook Lopez who looked completely washed at the end of the season and isn't even a good defender anymore because father time caught up with him.

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    Interesting view that Klay is NOT washed. I’ve seen that on ESPN, but, well, ESPN.

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    I think Bulls probably ask for a bit extra, I'd give them Wesley. He'll never get minutes with us and Bulls need a defense oriented guard to try and develop after losing Caruso and Lonzo.

    I said it before, I know Vucevic's defense is bad, but at least he's a good rebounder and he'd be our third best player on offense. He'd abuse most backup bigs.
    I'd much rather have Vucevic than Brook Lopez who looked completely washed at the end of the season and isn't even a good defender anymore because father time caught up with him.
    I would even be willing to give up a second rounder or two. 18 and 10 and metrics say Vucevic isn't as bad defensively as perceived, by most metrics he's average.

    I don't know what has gotten into many Spurs fans that see Keldon as this untradable piece or worth keeping over one of our few above average 3 point shooters (Vassell), but he's damn worthless at both sides of the floor. Turning Keldon into Vucevic would greatly improve our team.

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    ST-ers are too clingy with their favorites, and overvalue them while simultaneously always overthinking moves for anyone else.

    Vucevic would be a an unbelievably great return for trash like KJ. I'd do that in a heartbeat. The Spurs would instantly have one of, if not the best, C rotations in the league. Vuc would dominate bench bigs.
    Last edited by TimDunkem; 06-29-2025 at 01:17 PM.

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    I found this little nugget on Elon's app:

    KOC straight up made this up. He is such a hack. That's why he was demoted to writing for Yahoo.

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    Vucevik would be great for a couple years. What are the chances Blazers deal 21 year old Clingan?

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    KOC is a full blown Spurs hater. He’s just trying to start noise, not realizing that MATFO pays zero attention to social media trolls.

    Spurs will keep Fox for whatever his extension is, then they’ll work with Klutch to find him a soft landing. He didn’t cost much, so we won’t have to recoup much.
    How long do you think Spurs keep Fox? Aren't Castle and Harper still too green to take Wemby to the playoffs? Wouldn't it be smarter to keep Fox for a few years then offload him after he potentially helps Wemby make the playoffs, or do you think we offload him after a few years. Fox and Wemby pair at the present moment is pretty tantalizing, while the other 2 guards are the future.

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