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    Because you know, the Spurs don't have any on-ball creators at all
    It’s not about being a primary creator, but the experience of making reads, putting the ball on the floor beyond straight-line drives. My guess is our defense will be a little more complex this year as well. Tired no harm in him playing more in Austin. This is a team that will s trying to make a playoff push now. It’s relatively deep at the moment in guards and wings, even if you don’t like some of the wings. Maybe some space gets cleared out, but I think he should play a lot to develop, and he can get more of that in Austin, at least in the beginning of the year.

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    Didn't Wright said Bryant was in the Spurs' top 5?
    I didn't hear that, he said he was very high on the Spurs board and that they even considered moving up to get him, but he didn't mention any specific position, that doesn't sound like something Brian Wright would say at all. I think you might be conflating him with a clip going around where a guy says that he liked Carter as early as 5, but that's a media member, not Spurs staff.

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    i dont think he needs austin time with the goal of developing on-ball skills

    i think it may be useful for him to acclimate more to the new 3pt line and the general speed of the game as he may find it difficult to find minutes. i dont think they're going to open day 1 with him ahead of any of Vassell/Barnes/Keldon/Sochan in the rotation. rather him get some minutes in austin than rot on the bench. if he is proving his shot is reliable at the gleague level, or if there are injuries opening up minutes, you bring him over

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    I’ll be honest. He might become the most likable personality on the team since Keldon for me
    Dylan is half-Filipino and Carter is from my old town Riverside. Funny small world

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    We have summer league and preseason and the first month of the season to determine if he needs to be sent to Austin. It could go either way.

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    People, Carter Bryant didn't even play 20 minutes per game in college. He scored 6 points a game. Slow your ing roll.
    If he’s already capable of defending at a high level and shooting 3s at a respectable clip, he should spend the majority of his time in the NBA. If he’s not capable of doing those things (which is certainly a possibility) then yeah of course he should spend a good chunk of time in the G-League.

    I just think it’s silly to force a guy down to the G-League if he’s already an NBA-caliber player. Him not being a strong on-ball creator at this point doesn’t mean he isn’t NBA-caliber. Let’s see how SL/camp goes and hopefully he proves himself.

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    If he earns it, I hope they put him on the Leonard track and start him. The other guys ain't Rick Ross, so there's nothing to gain by delaying his development. With Fox, Castle, and Wemby out there, starting Bryant shouldn't be a problem.

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    Just saw a video where Bryant was talking about how much he admires and wants to emulate the play of Camara from the Blazers.
    Holy sh*t! This is such a cool thing to say. Sounds like the kid gets it.

    For those unfamiliar…


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    Man, I miss Sean Elliott the SF.

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    Could he be any more of a cliche Spur?

    As much as I like the pick, sucks to not only pass on Sorber, but simultaneously know the Thunder wouldn't.

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    But he did say he was high on there board and that they tried to trade up to get him, was happy and suprised he was there at 14.

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    Could he be any more of a cliche Spur?

    As much as I like the pick, sucks to not only pass on Sorber, but simultaneously know the Thunder wouldn't.
    theres a strong chance that if we took sorber, the thunder would have taken carter, and you could have said exactly the same thing

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    ^ I didn't know you could read my mind.

    I would not have. The difference is, Sorber is theoretically the ideal C to backup/occasionally play alongside a hybrid C like Holmgren; something they'll lack when forced to cut Hartenstein loose.

    Bryant, on the other hand, would have been just another 3 and D wing for them.

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    ^ I didn't know you could read my mind.

    I would not have. The difference is, Sorber is theoretically the ideal C to backup/occasionally play alongside a hybrid C like Holmgren; something they'll lack when forced to cut Hartenstein loose.

    Bryant, on the other hand, would have been just another 3 and D wing for them.
    ok just take my last post and instead of "you could have said" replace it with "one could have said"

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    I'm not saying this has to be a bad thing, but Carter's outfit last night sort of makes him look like a WNBA player?

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    I'm not saying this has to be a bad thing, but Carter's outfit last night sort of makes him look like a WNBA player?
    He oozes confidence tbh i’d say he’d be the perfect Laker and it makes me ick to say that

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    Just saw a video where Bryant was talking about how much he admires and wants to emulate the play of Camara from the Blazers.
    Holy sh*t! This is such a cool thing to say. Sounds like the kid gets it.

    For those unfamiliar…

    Cool video. Thanks!

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    People, Carter Bryant didn't even play 20 minutes per game in college. He scored 6 points a game. Slow your ing roll.
    and you haven't watched 1 minute of those games. So stfu

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    Based on what we know so far about Carter Bryant, I think it's almost a certainty that he's not going to be some on-ball monster who dominates time of possession. He doesn't have much of a handle and was wholly inefficient in EYBL when asked to create for himself. But that's ok! High volume off-ball wings with size and are willing to defend are literally the lowest friction archetype, and a team can honestly never have enough so long as they have at least one high level initiator in place. In fact, I would argue that high level off-ball wings, in spite of lower raw counting stats, can have just as much impact as some "all star" players with much gaudier stats while being much cheaper to keep and easier to fit into a lineup:




    Green and Battier (and Klay) were probably the two most impactful pure off-ball wings of the last 25 years. OG falls a little short, and they clear other guys like Ariza, Bowen, Mikal Bridges, etc.

    So the question is - assuming he doesn't take outlier leaps in self creation, what is Carter Bryant's pathway to 3 and D success? Like what separates Battier and LDN from the rest of the guys?

    Just comparing him to Battier, I'll say right now that he doesn't have the same level of awareness/savvy/discipline that Battier had, even as a college player. I don't think he has the ability to just come up with a timely play at the exact right time. Battier was also a stud when it came to limiting FG% against.

    When comparing him to Green, I don't think he will be the same level of transition defender, as LDN was pretty much a generational defender on the break, which has a huge impact on winning as it turns situations where there is a high chance of getting points into stops.

    Bryant needs to learn to defend with more discipline - 4.3 fouls/36 makes his 2.8 STL% look more impressive than it actually is. However, he may not have the feet to consistently stay in front of guys and limit FG% the way that Battier could.

    Just based on his college sample, he may need to just lean into what he's good at - generating turnovers, utilizing his athleticism on efficient finishes, and bombing high volume of 3s. I do not think that his impact will ever really match that of Battier or LDN on the defensive side, but he may make up some of the difference on the offensive side. I don't remember an off-ball wing prospect that had this combination of athleticism and a high 3 point rate, and he's shown the ability to shoot against tight close outs. Bart query looking at baseline STL%, BLK%, 3PA/100, and limited AST% among draftees in the last 15 years yields guys like Devin Vassell, Keegan Murray, Taurean Prince, and Mikal Bridges, all of whom share some similarities with Bryant. Bryant's advantage over the aforementioned players are primarily his age, frame, athleticism, and commitment to defense. However, it is reassuring to see that similar players have gone on to have anywhere from passable to excellent 3 point shooting later in their career. In fact, Green/Keegan/Prince may represent the spectrum of what his impact looks like depending on his future development:



    LDN was about 3.5-4 3PM/100 over the middle of his career while Battier was more like 2.5 / 100 in a much less 3 point heavy era. If Bryant can get to about 4-4.5 3PM/100 during his peak, and he develops well under Sweeney's guidance, hopefully he can become another Spurs off-ball wing success story over the next 10-15 years.

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    and you haven't watched 1 minute of those games. So stfu
    Ha, I struck a nerve, cuz I'm right.

    Bruh, I'm like the only one here who watches college basketball. Rest of y'all are just about vibes.

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    Concerned about how we’re going to fit Bryant’s max extension, tbh

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    Pretty exciting to think about how dominant our defense can be in the next year or 2…imagine a world where Sochan becomes a respectable shooter and we trot out a Harper/Castle/Bryant/Sochan/Wemby lineup. The addition of Sweeney and Corliss Williamson as assistants is the cherry on top.

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    Guys, can we get Danny Green or Bruce Bowen as mentor for this one?
    I’d love to see that. Learning from two great 3nD players that know what it takes to win at the highest level on both sides of the ball would go far.

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    I would be stoked if he turns out to be a Toumani Camara, OG Anunoby type. Spurs will need that archetype at a high level to contend.

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