They might have gotten more of their Dejounte Murray trade to N.O. than we got out of our Dejounte Murray trade to the Hawks. Entirely possible we never get a player as good as Dyson using their picks
Factor in all the injuries in the east and the Hawks might legit only win 38 games but still be the 6th seed.
Hawks made good moves to navigate their not-controlling-their-pick reality. Kudos to them ..But this what bugs me the most: The East falling apart with simultaneous key players injuries conspiring to nuke the value of those picks..It is hard to see them miss the playoffs in 2026 or 2027
Not saying we should have ever given the Hawks picks back for Trae but historically getting a bunch of picks, even unprotected ones, from another team doesn't yield you some super high pick cause that team fights like to not be bad. I know everyone talks about the Brooklyn Celtics trade and all the stuff Boston got but historically that's not the norm.
You usually end up like Utah. Traded their franchise players for tons of picks that aren't doing anything for them cause Wolves and Cavs sleepwalk into the playoffs every year.
A good reliable trade partnership is supposed to be win-win not one organization fleecing another. That’s not any kind of reputation I think a team benefits from (SAS).
Atlanta gaining some control over the Milwaukee pick next year could come into play if Giannis hits the market between now and the trade deadline. Seems unlikely now, but Atlanta would be well positioned to entice the Bucks with a package that includes getting their pick back essentially.
I mean their GM is now ex-Spurs FO member Onsi Saleh, so no surprise that they are actually making good moves
the consequences of asset-hoarding for the sake of it tbh.
at least a couple of those picks should've been moved for a player(s) last summer after ATL won the lottery and it became clear that trae young wasn't being moved.
as mentioned above they might not even need 40 wins to make the play-in again next season. SAS only landing pick #14 after jalen johnson missed most of the year is evidence enough of how high ATL's floor is in the east right now.
all the "hey man be patient man those picks could be anything man" arguments in the ATL picks thread last season reminded me a lot of the perpetual "i swear they're gonna take a leap anytime now just watch
could've moved ATL picks + vassell for something solid last year. now we're stuck with picks front offices around the league know have limited value and over $100 million left on a ty contract.
there's a big difference between patience and becoming overly-attached to mediocre players/picks. the best front offices know when to move off them in a timely fashion for something more tangible than future projections.
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I’m not too concerned the Spurs are only impacted by Atlanta for the next 2 seasons. By the time that unprotected ‘26 pick conveys it’s going to be one season for that rookie to impact Atlanta’s W/L and that’s it.
There’s no garuantee the Hawks are in the top 6 this season either meaning the pick could be another late lottery one.
Meanwhile we pulled the 1, the 4, and the 2 in three drafts. We're good.
How much more luck do the Spurs need, draft wise?
The biggest pivot point is Trae. If he’s not happy with their extension $$$, he can opt out in 2026, when multiple teams have reserved cap room. They maybe forced to trade him this summer or at the deadline for pennies.
Maybe. But the Hawks won't get anywhere with Trae Young. He, like LaMelo, has no intention or ability to defend. The Young-Porzingis lineup is a defense like these capsules that we pierce on both sides to empty them more quickly. Stephen Curry has thickened considerably to no longer be an easy target. Young spends his physical training moving his red jersey like a matador facing a bull to ensure that he avoids making a mistake as best as possible: by moving away..
You can play with such players. Not when you make him your leader. TJ Shorts with his 1.75 m is much more useful in defense than Young, and Shorts thus allows his team to win les. This is one of the reasons why despite his size, Shorts is among the five best players in Europe.
And that is indeed a deliberate choice by the Hawks.
All of it
Yeah I get annoyed with people being confidently incorrect on here but it is what it is
I mean with how bad CHI, Wash, BKN, and Charlotte are it’s hard as to tank out east. They are pretty much guaranteed a play-in spot near minimum.
This Pelicans trade is unconscionable.
Again, the league moves at a bullet train speed now.
The Hawks aren't waiting around to hand the Spurs high picks, instead they're gearing up to have a puncher's chance at a Pacers like run next season.
If it's necessary to include their assets to fix this roster and it's for the right player(s), the Spurs shouldn't hesitate.
How does a Nola first next offseason help them this upcoming season?
My east tiers as of right now.
Tier 1 (55+ wins)
Tier 2 (45-54 wins)
Cavs
Knicks
Magic
Tier 3 (35-44 wins)
Indiana
Miami
Detroit
Philly
Atlanta
Boston
Milwaukee
Toronto
Chicago
Tier 4 (sub-35 wins)
Hornets
Wizards
Brooklyn
Cavs come back down to earth.
That tier 3 could go in many directions with all the injuries to guys like Hali, Tatum, Lillard.
Although I can see how you'd interpret it as such given how it was written, I didn't mean it like that.
We got an insane haul for DJ, including what turned out to be Wemby, and Hawks are in a whole different conference. Plus, we got Carter Bryant who fell on our lap. Why be mad?
The 2027 NBA draft class is looking kind of weak so I wouldn’t mind the Spurs trading the 27 hawks pick for a player that can be a huge part of the rotation this season.
Kudos to them. We did fine already and with us jumping this year, there is nothing to get greedy about.
Sure, we could have cashed the picks in earlier, but don't forget, that we probably would be without Bryant, which has a shot at making it worth by himself.
I could justify putting Brooklyn in a Tier 5 (Threatening Worst W-L of All Time)
It's definitely unfortunate - those '26/'27 Hawks swaps/picks were looking super juicy but at this point I'd be surprised if either of them are in the lottery. Obviously injuries can happen but it seems clear they're not going to just lie down and hand away top 10 picks to us.
Agree with others' sentiments here that we should be willing to move off of those picks if the right opportunities come along.
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