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    Vucevik would be great for a couple years. What are the chances Blazers deal 21 year old Clingan?
    No intel, but my guess is that close to zero unless it's in a deal that nets them some kind of star (which I don't think they are even hunting for). I would not view their drafting of Yang Hansen as an indictment on how they feel about Clingan (who remember they just used a Top 10 pick on a year ago), at all.

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    How long do you think Spurs keep Fox? Aren't Castle and Harper still too green to take Wemby to the playoffs? Wouldn't it be smarter to keep Fox for a few years then offload him after he potentially helps Wemby make the playoffs, or do you think we offload him after a few years. Fox and Wemby pair at the present moment is pretty tantalizing, while the other 2 guards are the future.
    My thought is 3-4 years depending on the structure and length of his extension.

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    My thought is 3-4 years depending on the structure and length of his extension.
    This will be his age 28 season.
    Hopefully we can make that extension a 3+1 deal.
    He'd get the most money he can get in age 29/30/31 seasons.
    After that Harper's extension kicks in and Fox either gets traded or takes a paycut to win some more rings.

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    How realistic do you think a trade centered around Vucevic and Keldon Johnson could be?

    If it goes down:

    Fox --------- Harper
    Castle ----- Champagnie
    Vassell ----- Bryant
    Barnes ------ Sochan
    Wemby ----- Vucevic

    A much more cohesive rotation.
    What the Spurs need is a rim protector when Wemby is off the floor and, in that regard, Vucevic isn't even an improvement over Zach Collins. I'd do that trade just to move off of Keldon's contract final year though.

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    What the Spurs need is a rim protector when Wemby is off the floor and, in that regard, Vucevic isn't even an improvement over Zach Collins. I'd do that trade just to move off of Keldon's contract final year though.
    Vucevic's shortcomings as a defender are greatly exagerated. Yeah, he's far from good, but he's not as bad as people on this board seem to think he is. Also, look at the lineup he would be playing alongside, all average to above average defenders, there's no Keldon or Branham to contaminate the overall production. That should help him.

    Also, the versatility that he would offer on offense could open up a bunch of different scenarios for the team, including the two bigmen lineup. I would rather add Vucevic than a rim protecting big with no offensive game, tbh.

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    35 years old. Yeah his D will be better for sure

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    I would even be willing to give up a second rounder or two. 18 and 10 and metrics say Vucevic isn't as bad defensively as perceived, by most metrics he's average.

    I don't know what has gotten into many Spurs fans that see Keldon as this untradable piece or worth keeping over one of our few above average 3 point shooters (Vassell), but he's damn worthless at both sides of the floor. Turning Keldon into Vucevic would greatly improve our team.
    trading Keldon for basically any capable NBA player would improve the Spurs immediately on both ends

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    Vucevic has always been a disgusting defender when I watch him play but as a backup C for 20 minutes a night I think his offensive talent outweighs the defense. You’d just have to try pair him with a few good defenders in the 2nd unit like Sochan, hopefully Carter Bryant etc.

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    Could go after Sharpe - He is a big boy can't shoot but he will rebound and protect the paint pretty good.

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    trading Keldon for basically any capable NBA player would improve the Spurs immediately on both ends
    Take the gun barrel out of your mouth, it's Sunday, and you're not wrong.

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    Vucevic's shortcomings as a defender are greatly exagerated. Yeah, he's far from good, but he's not as bad as people on this board seem to think he is. Also, look at the lineup he would be playing alongside, all average to above average defenders, there's no Keldon or Branham to contaminate the overall production. That should help him.

    Also, the versatility that he would offer on offense could open up a bunch of different scenarios for the team, including the two bigmen lineup. I would rather add Vucevic than a rim protecting big with no offensive game, tbh.
    I want a 3&D center. Don’t care about passing or post scoring. Vouch ain’t that.

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    No intel, but my guess is that close to zero unless it's in a deal that nets them some kind of star (which I don't think they are even hunting for). I would not view their drafting of Yang Hansen as an indictment on how they feel about Clingan (who remember they just used a Top 10 pick on a year ago), at all.
    Thanks! Yeah it would probably be expensive and out of the question. Just wondering if they were even considering him in a deal. I don't have much 'intel' on any of these guys and a part from Yabusele with France I haven't seen them much. He's a bulldog, but doesn't address our biggest needs.

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    The Blazers have 4 centers. I have lost track of Robert Williams. Is he still good, is he healthy, would it be worth it to make a move for him?

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    Fox might like to retire here also, there's that possibility, and take a discount in his final years,

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    I wonder if anyone besides myself and mo7888 would be interested in this idea...

    IND sends Jarace Walker to San Antonio in exchange for Malaki Branham and either SA26 (with ATL swap rights) or ATL27 (worst case scenario... I offer them a handful of seconds before it comes to this).

    Rationale: IND is hard capped at the second apron, this would save them $1.7MM which frankly they may or may not care about. But they're working hard to get Turner extended and Walker will be extension eligible next summer. This saves IND a little bit of money now, but a lot of money as Walker's rookie deal nears expiry and he hasn't exactly proven much. This gives IND another pick as they take a pause while Hali is injured.

    For the Spurs, the Atlanta picks are looking less juicy, and this gives them a low-commitment flier on a potential long term answer at PF.

    A first might be a little rich here, but I'm projecting both of those picks to be in the early 20s.

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    Prior to the Draft, I was thinking of something like 14 + Branham for Wallace (Jarace Walker) + 23. Conceptually similar.

    I'd try Utah 2026 2nd round pick + Branham for Wallace - not a first, but I'd guess that's between 31 and 38 next year, for their 3rd PF. Good second draft bet.
    Last edited by jesterbobman; 07-01-2025 at 01:53 AM. Reason: I'm an idiot. Walker, not Wallace.

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    Who is Wallace? Carson Wallace?

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    Who is Wallace? Carson Wallace?
    I'm an idiot. Jarace Walker (as edited above).

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    Signings in HOU made CAM Whitmore out of rotation maybe him?

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    So Kings are on the verge of getting Shroeder in a S&T for Malik Monk. Kangz lol. In the process of facilitating this they’ve made the move to guarantee the final year of Ellis at only 2.3 million, thus preventing him from the ability to extend even if he’s traded. Please Spurs save that man, he’s such an awesome PoA defender who shoots 40+ from three.

    By the way Detroit have been saved by another idiot (Beasely) and they’re about to replace him and Shroeder with Levert and Monk. They’re cooking even though it wasn’t their original plan.

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    I wonder if anyone besides myself and mo7888 would be interested in this idea...

    IND sends Jarace Walker to San Antonio in exchange for Malaki Branham and either SA26 (with ATL swap rights) or ATL27 (worst case scenario... I offer them a handful of seconds before it comes to this).

    Rationale: IND is hard capped at the second apron, this would save them $1.7MM which frankly they may or may not care about. But they're working hard to get Turner extended and Walker will be extension eligible next summer. This saves IND a little bit of money now, but a lot of money as Walker's rookie deal nears expiry and he hasn't exactly proven much. This gives IND another pick as they take a pause while Hali is injured.

    For the Spurs, the Atlanta picks are looking less juicy, and this gives them a low-commitment flier on a potential long term answer at PF.

    A first might be a little rich here, but I'm projecting both of those picks to be in the early 20s.
    I'd take Jarace Walker ASAP. But it should be for second round picks and if that's the case, the Spurs could've done that one on draft night.

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    I wonder if anyone besides myself and mo7888 would be interested in this idea...

    IND sends Jarace Walker to San Antonio in exchange for Malaki Branham and either SA26 (with ATL swap rights) or ATL27 (worst case scenario... I offer them a handful of seconds before it comes to this).

    Rationale: IND is hard capped at the second apron, this would save them $1.7MM which frankly they may or may not care about. But they're working hard to get Turner extended and Walker will be extension eligible next summer. This saves IND a little bit of money now, but a lot of money as Walker's rookie deal nears expiry and he hasn't exactly proven much. This gives IND another pick as they take a pause while Hali is injured.

    For the Spurs, the Atlanta picks are looking less juicy, and this gives them a low-commitment flier on a potential long term answer at PF.

    A first might be a little rich here, but I'm projecting both of those picks to be in the early 20s.
    What's the appeal of Walker?

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    I wonder if anyone besides myself and mo7888 would be interested in this idea...

    IND sends Jarace Walker to San Antonio in exchange for Malaki Branham and either SA26 (with ATL swap rights) or ATL27 (worst case scenario... I offer them a handful of seconds before it comes to this).

    Rationale: IND is hard capped at the second apron, this would save them $1.7MM which frankly they may or may not care about. But they're working hard to get Turner extended and Walker will be extension eligible next summer. This saves IND a little bit of money now, but a lot of money as Walker's rookie deal nears expiry and he hasn't exactly proven much. This gives IND another pick as they take a pause while Hali is injured.

    For the Spurs, the Atlanta picks are looking less juicy, and this gives them a low-commitment flier on a potential long term answer at PF.

    A first might be a little rich here, but I'm projecting both of those picks to be in the early 20s.
    I think he’d be a good fit.

    In any event I want them to be aggressive with the Maliki and Wesley expirings.

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    I wonder if anyone besides myself and mo7888 would be interested in this idea...

    IND sends Jarace Walker to San Antonio in exchange for Malaki Branham and either SA26 (with ATL swap rights) or ATL27 (worst case scenario... I offer them a handful of seconds before it comes to this).

    Rationale: IND is hard capped at the second apron, this would save them $1.7MM which frankly they may or may not care about. But they're working hard to get Turner extended and Walker will be extension eligible next summer. This saves IND a little bit of money now, but a lot of money as Walker's rookie deal nears expiry and he hasn't exactly proven much. This gives IND another pick as they take a pause while Hali is injured.

    For the Spurs, the Atlanta picks are looking less juicy, and this gives them a low-commitment flier on a potential long term answer at PF.

    A first might be a little rich here, but I'm projecting both of those picks to be in the early 20s.
    You think ATL is a top 10 team in the league? Even with the conference imbalance?

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