He needs to be the first of the turd trio to be moved. Vassell has more trade value, and Barnes can actually hit a shot. Keeping KJ quite literally makes no sense at this point.
Only reason he’s still here is the front office loyalty, but he desperately needs to go. He’s part of the remnants of Pop’s “bigger than basketball” coaching mentality. I wish they traded him last year.
Can’t wait until he misses 5 3’s a game but wins the sniffers over because he made an and-1 layup and yelled
I’m not sure how many teams play a 10 man rotation, let alone have an entire second unit lineup play any meaningful trio minutes.
The Spurs have a history of doing just that, tbh.
If you were an NBA team, would you trade for KJ?
I’d trade for second round picks
I don’t even necessarily think Keldon is some terrible player, but it’s just obvious at this point he isn’t really needed on this team.
Between Vassell/Champagnie/Sochan/Barnes/Bryant the vast majority of minutes at the 3/4 are taken. It seems decently likely we add Yabusele. What’s the point of keeping Keldon? At this point I’d move him for pretty much anything as even just getting rid of his contract would be a positive. Those other guys all have their calling cards, but what is Keldon’s strength that we’d sorely miss if he got moved?
If I'm getting additional assets, sure. There's also the chance of some GM still overrating Keldon, like you do, and get rid of him without giving up anything else.
It would be funny if signing Yabu is what finally led to Keldon being shipped out, since Yabu is kind of like a dump truck-ier version of Keldon's unrealized potential
They'll package him for a good, not great player. That or they'll put him with Vasell for Giannis and picks or something like that. Right now though, he's an energy guy off the bench who'll fight for the ball. I don't hate him cuz we have so much damn depth!!
What depth are we talking about here? 6 straight losing seasons depth? Sure.
We added 2 rookies and a third string center, while doing nothing to adress our biggest weakness. I think folks are overrating our off season so far. Until we add a shooter or two to the rotation, I don't see us making the playoffs, tbh.
You don't trade Barnes, as he's a very useful player and one of the big reasons the team was a lot better this year than last. You purge the losers from the tank core like every other team does when they get the players to start winning. Vassell has to be first to go because of his horrendous contract even though Keldon is a way worse player. But they both have to go. Sochan can join them too if he doesn't show up big this season.
It happens every off season. We forget just how badly they played last season and convince ourselves they'll be good next season. If Vassell, Johnson and Sochan continue to be important players on this team it will be a repeat, they can't win in this league.
He's our get torched constantly defensive traffic cone and miss a bunch of open threes guy off the bench. He's genuinely awful and the team can't purge him from the roster soon enough.
We got shooters: Vassell, Champ, Barnes, Wemby, Bryant (rook). We can add 1 sharpshooter and be fine. We needed a 3-D wing, and we got an elite one in the draft. We needed a backup big? We got one. I'm sure they'll pick up a sharpshooter.
Send him to Miami for DR, then trade Devin +Castle + Sochan + Branham + Wesley + a few picks for Giannis. Fill in the remaining spots with Minix and ring chasing vets.
No rumours on Yabusele? Thought we''d hear something, if only he went elsewhere.
He's not going to be getting a big money deal from the Spurs, so he might want to think about it. He might want to play for a team that gives him more court time so he can raise his value for a bigger contract. Not sure his biggest priority is.
Have only seen that one Spurs reporter saying they have serious interest in him. My guess is as good as any beyond that.
I like the Keldon for Duncan Robinson idea.
I loved the Bryant pickup but let's pump the breaks. He's not elite at anything, he's a rook. For all we know he could be the next Primo. He doesn't even project to be in the rotation.
You named 5 shooters, 1 of those is the rookie we talked about, that won't even play. Of the remaining 4, 2 shot a below average % (Wemby and Champagnie). That leave us with only two above average 3pt shooters in the entire roster. Compare that to what the last two finalists had, where seemingly every rotation player was capable of hitting open 3s and you'll see how far behind we are on this regard.
Spurs aren't competing for a chip this year. That was never going to be the case. Let's pump the breaks on that. You want a roster full of all shooters? Then trade almost everyone. There's only so much the Spurs can do with what they have. They picked up 2 positions of need. That's already really good. Did they expect to get the #2 pick? No. Were there any trade offers worth trading a Cade Cuningham comp/easily #2 pick? No. The rest either comes in FA or by trade. Give me some trade ideas to get 3-4 extra shooters that OKC had. It's not happening. We're not OKC. They started their rebuild years before us. They got Shai years before us. He's an MVP. You work with what what you have. Yea Keldon sucks balls. Who are they going to trad him for? 29 year old Yabusele in a sign and trade? Come on. You can't make everyone happy. Spurs didn't get 4 3 shooters and only got the second best player in the draft and the best player available at 14, and a desperately needed backup center position. Man what a disappointment lol.
I'm not expecting a championship, but I do expect a playoffs push, but if we don't adress the glaring shooting issue, we're not achieving that either. That's why I'm not asking for 3 or 4 shooters, just one or two.
Just replacing Keldon with one shooter, would make a World of difference for the overall fit and production of the entire rotation.
Sing and trade with Miami for Duncan Robinson. That's an option.
I'm with you, but I am concerned over what Miami would require back to take Keldon. They can just let Robinson walk and clear the money off their books, I don't think they're thinking they need a Keldon Johnson. If I were the Heat, I'd want an FRP - and if I were the Spurs I'm not sure it would be worth it.
I like DR but he's 31 and a sign and trade would probably be a 2-4 year deal on a guy who's past his prime. He can put the ball on the floor a bit, but his defense is arguably worse than Keldon's. He has elite shooting of course, but the age difference is took big I think. This will lock you in a declining player for a swap on a 24 years old declining contract. If all you want is shooting you can pick that up in Yabu or another FA, but a straight up trade for KJ a negative. I agree we need shooting, but not in that deal.
Utah wants to get rid of Collins, I wonder if they would take on Keldon's contract if we attach some 2nd rounders.
Fox-----------------Harper
Castle-------------Champagnie
Vassell-----------Sochan
Collins------------Barnes
Wemby-----------Kornet
You would be adressing two needs here: better shooting and more size at the PF position.
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