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Assuming health, missing the 2026 playoffs should result in the kind of firings this franchise has avoided since the 90s. Not sure anyone even knows how to do it.
Do y'all have the memory of a goldfish? Wemby was a top 3 player before January.
Assuming health, missing the 2026 playoffs should result in the kind of firings this franchise has avoided since the 90s. Not sure anyone even knows how to do it.
TBH, the Spurs have added 2 rookies (albeit talented rookies) via the draft (call that what you want- offseason; strategic, planning, etc) and a journeyman Center (who's increased his skillset over the last 2+ years). I would hardly call that an A offseason at this point. B at best.
Right or wrong, I exclude the draft from the full offseason scoreboard. With that said, the Spurs have added Kornet. That's it. That's not near enough to be legit playoff contender. There are still gaps on this team. Anxious to see what BW hopefully has up his sleeve.
Thunder/Rockets is going to be an absolute banger next year if they meet in the playoffs.
Rockets are going to miss like 60% of their shots and then rebound half those misses with their massive frontline against OKC's small wings.
Wemby was not better than Jokic/Giannis/SGAAnd regardless, you're really going to nitpick that one statement? The point is Wemby proving himself as one of the true best players in the league for the whole season will go a long way in terms of this team having playoff aspirations or not.
Jan 3, 2025.
I shudder at the prospect of Cooper Flagg making it to the post-season before Wemby does. The ensuing narratives are going to be extremely uncomfortable to say the least. The reality is KD was right there for the taking, but they chose to play with risk of Wemby being out for 2-3 weeks essentially costing them a play-in spot in this stupidly deep conference..
He wasn't gettable without two unprotected FRPs because the Rockets included better players than we would have.
no reports of shoulder pain going back to those months. if it was DVT related, the clot would happen in the extremity first, and then there would potentially be a pulmonary embolism which could affect breating/stamina
They weren't. If memory serves, they were on a skid that got accentuated by the Fox trade.
Our playoff hopes depend on Sochan learning how to shoot the ball…
Our playoff hopes depend on Wemby being healthy and Fox bouncing back from his pinky injury. If both of those things happen, we are in. The other players incremental progress will determine if we get a high seed or not.
Had a losing record and was the 10th seed with him playing.
I'll make the case why missing the play-offs and play-in is the most likely outcome. I'm somewhat optimistic and believe they'll be in the play-in games, but don't think they'll win them to advance to the playoffs. All of which is to say: using some combination of the friendship crew + draft capital to get talent could moot this entire conversation. And for those preaching "don't skip steps," you cannot have Wemby/Castle/Harper continue to watch the playoffs from home while Chet/Cooper/Amen get that experience.
Going in reverse order, these teams should not be expected to be in playoff/playin contention: Utah, New Orleans. That's it. And, there's a remote chance, but still a chance, that New Orleans is in playoff/playin contention if Zion remains healthy, DJM comes back, and Queen pans out. Don't think that's likely, so we'll keep them at the bottom rung.
Next tier: Sacramento, Portland, Phoenix, San Antonio, and Memphis.
I think Sacramento is clearly the worst of these 4 having not made any meaningful moves (lol Schroeder). Phoenix has Booker, who can be a top-10 player. I like the Maluach pick up for them. They have depth with the Mark Williams signing. They added some defense with Brooks. I'm low on Jalen Green and losing KD does hurt. But they do have talent. I'll be conservative and put them 12th in the conference. I'll put San Antonio at 11 because you can argue that Portland has more talent overall. I like them getting Jrue. I like them losing Ayton. Deni Avdija is playing his way into being an allstar. Scoot could level up. So could Clingan. And Sharpe too. They have an elite defender in Camara. Wemby is obviously better than anyone they have, but is Fox that much better than Avdija? Castle that much better than Camara? Factor in injury exposure, and it's not hard to see Portland ending up better than San Antonio, especially with the way the Blazers ended the season.
Memphis is interesting. Ja has been not great recently. They got rid of Bane. But JJJ is still a great player/former DPOY. Ja could return to form. GG Jackson and Edey could take a step. Coward could turn out to be the steal of the draft. There's a pathway there for them to have a (much) better season.
Next tier. Dallas, Lakers, Warriors, Clippers.
Dallas has the depth to sustain Kyrie being out all year. With Kyrie, they're a top 4 team. The Lakers have Lebron and Luka. The Warriors have Steph and Jimmy. The Clippers have Kawhi and Harden (and BroLo). Even with regression to the old guys due to age, they're super-stars who have consistently taken their teams to the playoffs. They have enough experience to offset regression due to age.
Next tier. Minnesota, Denver, Houston, OKC.
This is obvious.
Year 3 Wemby + Fox will be better than Lebron/Luka, Curry/Jimmy and nephew/Harden.
For sure! A big test for the franchise here. They’ve been in no pressure situations since Nephew bailed and the players NOW need to perform to see if they’re worth keeping around. It’s great they got away from Pop when they did. He would have been the wrong coach with his nonchalant, “it’s just basketball” mentality for players like Harper and Bryant’s development. Now they have a young and hungrier coach and actual good coaching assistants.
Getting off of Keldon and Vassell’s contract will be even better. The team still really is far away from being a playoff threat. Right before Wemby went down for the season, we were losing games to the 12 win Hornets. So I’m not quite convinced we are penciled in for a playoff spot.
Something was clearly wrong with Wemby for the last month or so that he played. Just after new years, we were 18-16, and in spot #8. Then, the bottom fell out. He didn’t suddenly forget how to play, and the league didn’t suddenly figure him out, either.
Indeed and if anything is wrong with him, everything goes out the door! And everything I said before would be moot.
LMAO
Mitch, as long as he doesn't let poop auto-pen , will make this team a contender. Not play-in bull . Legit threat.
If they miss the playoffs they have built in excuses that they’ve been leaning on. “No skipping steps” “brick by brick” “we’re following the OKC”’model by building a sustainable winner.
Pick one. But no one is getting fired. You can bet on that.
Didn't the spurs play a pretty soft schedule to start the year last year? I seem to remember being excited around new year's this past season with the Spurs record and then having cold water poured over my optimism when a couple posters pointed out that the schedule was pretty soft.
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Now that I look back over it, it looks like as of 1/3 when the Spurs were 18-16, they had played 14 road games and 20 home games, and of the 18 wins, only 5 were to future playoff teams (HOU, MIN, OKC, LAC, DEN), so it's entirely possible that their true quality was not as good as their record suggested. Still, this was pre-Fox trade so I would expect the Spurs would be at minimum a play-in team and ideally more than that
What makes this team a legit contender? Firmly in playoff is 6th seed and you're contending at that point. Guaranteed playoff seed is contention in my book. I just don't see this team there yet. I'm thinking 7th seed at best, with anything above that being cherry on top. If they're in 4th by end of the season, Mitch deserves COY.
You could be right. We could make the playoffs if we have strong seasons from both of them. I just think that even though Wemby covers up a lot of our flaws, he can’t cover for 2 weak positions and imo we are weak at the SF and PF positions. If Sochan learns how to shoot however then we are only weak with one position.
Well following the "okc model" means the spurs win between 40 and 57 games this year, cause this is around the time the players around SGA also started playing really well and OKC stepped on the gas.
Wemby was above Giannis EPM by december by a pretty wide margin. You said top 5-10 player, I'm saying Wemby is already there and more.Wemby was not better than Jokic/Giannis/SGA
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