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Look at the deal they made; got only expiring back (Nurk). May be the clue they aren’t looking for long term salary or talent….
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Free agent guard Tre Mann has agreed to a three-year, $24 million deal with the Charlotte Hornets, sources tell ESPN. Hornets officials and Mann's agent Aaron Turner of Verus Sports negotiated terms of the new contract in free agency.
Look at the deal they made; got only expiring back (Nurk). May be the clue they aren’t looking for long term salary or talent….
Baba, of course the trade deadline is not part of the actual offseason... I'm just saying since we had him for limited time before surgery I'm just lumping it all together. This is a lot of change for our Spurs who like to take it slow.
I would be surprised if Barnes started. He’s not a starting level defender and if you need to see what Sochan can do and you didnt trade him because you believe in him then you start him IMO
Bend over and I'll show you liking to take it slow
It's a two-way street. He figures to be in line for more opportunity with the Craptors, as a primary backup C.
Barnes started every game of his career.
I can't see Castle and Sochan playing together unless both improve their 3pt over the summer.
With the current roster I’m seeing a 9 man rotation.
Wemby - Kornet
Barnes - Sochan
Vassell - Bryant
Castle - Harper
Fox - Harper
Champ and Keldon 10th and 11th guys. Bryant may not be in the rotation right away but won’t take long for his defense and shooting to put him in.
Vassell forced to the 3 because Fox, Castle, Harper split the 96 minutes at guard three ways. He’s also forced to start or be in the rotation because of his contract like it or not.
It’s still going to be a mediocre defensive rebounding and defensive team with Barnes and Vassell starting at the 3/4. At least we won’t see a historical drop off when Vic goes to the bench like we’ve seen the last 2 years now that Kornet is on board.
As people have said it still feels like the roster is short one bigger stronger 4 to start next to Wemby I.e your PJ Washington, Aldama, Collins type. At least until Sochan proves the shooting is better and Bryant proves he’s ready for minutes. Neither which are garuanteed.
When was the last time the spurs "had something planned"
Last year when they Traded #8 pick for future draft capital, which led to us having the cap space to add CP3 and Barnes in a trade.When was the last time the spurs "had something planned"
If I were Brad Stevens I‘d throw Utah some picks to take on Simons and get Walker Kessler. Then sign Dame.
Lillard/White/Brown/Tatum/Kessler
and they are right back in the le race when healthy
Then Sochan should be traded asap
Probably 1 week ago when they sold off their second round pick while needing a backup center since they felt they could sign Kornet?When was the last time the spurs "had something planned"
This may sound sacrilegious but there is a chance that Castle doesn't start.
Starters: Fox - Vassell - Champ - Sochan - Wemby
Bench: Castle - KJ - Harper - Barnes - Kornet (with a good chance that Bryant replaces either KJ/Barnes by mid-season due to trade or inep ude).
Bryant isn’t a rotation player. Champ is. I don’t think we’ll see much of Bryant on the main roster. He’ll get time of course but I doubt it’ll regular rotation minutes.
jazz reporter saying theres basically no trade market for john collins
THat will probably be a starting lineup for some games too. I think Castle and Vassell start though majority of the season. Champ plays the 3 or 4. Bryant isn't replacing Barnes. He's our best shooter and he makes winning plays. Brent probably craptime minutes and some minimal minutes until mid-late in the season where he might be ramped up, but I don't think he gets a lot of playing time year 1.
damn, the Jazz need to get a hold of all the general managers on this site.
They are dumb s make the obvious easy moves and draft picks that fall in their laps. Go get a shooter like A Coffee for cheap. Too stupid
The Jazz probably don't want to keep him but can't bring themselves to cut such a useful ballast contract. I've made my reluctance for Collins and my disagreement about the Spurs acquiring a PF pretty clear, but the Jazz would probably take Barnes and Branham/Wesley straight up at this point. I also think the Spurs could make it known that they'd give Collins something like the full MLE for two years and then have non-guaranteed third year and get Collins to agree to a buyout large enough to get Utah to move on him. Maybe in return the Jazz can play third-team and take Wesley and/or Branham so the Spurs can turn the Kornet signing into an S&T.
i dont know what use that jazz have for Collins' contract as ballast. they dont really seem to be buyers, but honestly i have no clue what they're doing, as they attached a second to Sexton to land Jusuf Nurkic, so i guess they are buyers? both are expiring, nurkic actually paid a bit more, i cant explain it.
collins will be expiring, but the jazz are still pretty far from having cap issues, even if they gave Kessler a big extension. i dont know what big FA they'd be eyeballing next offseason.
i think you may be right about what utah would be willing to accept, but i dont think the spurs would want to deal barnes for collins either. barnes is expiring as well, and i could see the spurs wanting to re-sign him as affordable depth.
Seems fair to say the Spurs aren't interested in Jollins and we should probably just stop thinking about him.
we just need more pages on that thread
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