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    I wonder if anyone besides myself and mo7888 would be interested in this idea...

    IND sends Jarace Walker to San Antonio in exchange for Malaki Branham and either SA26 (with ATL swap rights) or ATL27 (worst case scenario... I offer them a handful of seconds before it comes to this).

    Rationale: IND is hard capped at the second apron, this would save them $1.7MM which frankly they may or may not care about. But they're working hard to get Turner extended and Walker will be extension eligible next summer. This saves IND a little bit of money now, but a lot of money as Walker's rookie deal nears expiry and he hasn't exactly proven much. This gives IND another pick as they take a pause while Hali is injured.

    For the Spurs, the Atlanta picks are looking less juicy, and this gives them a low-commitment flier on a potential long term answer at PF.

    A first might be a little rich here, but I'm projecting both of those picks to be in the early 20s.
    I'd be a fan, but have concerns about playing time. I'd hate for him struggle to get on the floor. Still, if I were to deal a 1st, he'd be near the sweet spot of what I'd want and what I could expect to getin return (unless Indy loves him, which is poossible).

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    You think ATL is a top 10 team in the league? Even with the conference imbalance?
    Top 10 record is what matters. That took 49 wins last season, which is in the realm of possibility for the Hawks because they are in the much weaker conference.

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    You think ATL is a top 10 team in the league? Even with the conference imbalance?
    They may if everything goes right for them but they’ve basically replaced:

    Capela, Nance -> Porzingis
    Hunter -> NAW
    Bogdanovic -> Kennard

    Considering what they were in they’ve done alright but if there’s improvement it’ll be mostly due to health and internal improvement, not because they’ve signed amazing players.

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    From a roster build perspective, and sticking to the chalky possibilities, PJ Washington seems like the most natural target for the Spurs at this point, and Mavs are realistically one of the best destination for Devin if he were to be moved in such a deal, but I'm not sure how to get to a deal with matching salaries (I'm averse to any bad contracts from going forward).

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    What do you think k it would take to get Walker from Indy? Would Branham (expiring) and 3 or 4 2nd's get it done (since Indy values 2nd's more than we do anyway)?

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    PJ Washington would be my number one target for trade choice.

    Jarace Walker would also be a really good get. I've taken a look at him since posters here have been mentioning him the past few days, and I think he'd definitely be worth trying to get. He's young, looks like he can shoot and would fill a position of need.
    I haven't seen him play much, but I'd consider giving up an asset to get him. What do you guys think it would cost?

    Collins, I'm still a little bit iffy on him as I don't recall him ever being too good on defense (correct me if I am wrong, maybe he is OK at defending PFs at least?), but he could work on the Spurs strictly as a PF, and he hasn't shrunk in the playoffs. If they Spurs can get him cheap, they should consider it.
    Last edited by Ice009; 07-01-2025 at 11:56 AM.

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    PJ Washington would be my number 1 target for trade choice.

    Collins, I'm still iffy on him, but he could work on the Spurs strictly as a PF, and he hasn't shrunk in the playoffs. If they Spurs can get him cheap, they should consider it.
    I'd be all for either (or Lauri for that matter), but I don't think the fo is going to do a bigger money deal unless a Giannis becomes available. So I'm looking at smaller deal using Branham and/or Wesley to balance things out. That's why I again mention Jarace above, but I'm open to other similar moves. Are there any other names in that price range that wouldn't cost 1st's that you or anyone would suggest?

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    I'd be all for either (or Lauri for that matter), but I don't think the fo is going to do a bigger money deal unless a Giannis becomes available. So I'm looking at smaller deal using Branham and/or Wesley to balance things out. That's why I again mention Jarace above, but I'm open to other similar moves. Are there any other names in that price range that wouldn't cost 1st's that you or anyone would suggest?
    I just did an edit before reading your post and I am all in on you Jarace Walker idea. I took at look at Jarace the other day since some of you guys have been mentioning him and he looks like a great get.
    I just wonder what it would take to get him.

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    I just did an edit before reading your post and I am all in on you Jarace Walker idea. I took at look at Jarace the other day since some of you guys have been mentioning him and he looks like a great get.
    I just wonder what it would take to get him.
    I'm hoping it'll take 3 or 4 good 2nd's, but i'm just guessing.

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    Something like this maybe for Giannis. IDK how salaries exactly lineup and cap and all that.


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    not sure if Indiana wants to give up Walker, now that Turner went to the Bucks. They are not a luxury tax team in that case and need a big, even though Walker is a PF and not a C.

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    They may if everything goes right for them but they’ve basically replaced:

    Capela, Nance -> Porzingis
    Hunter -> NAW
    Bogdanovic -> Kennard

    Considering what they were in they’ve done alright but if there’s improvement it’ll be mostly due to health and internal improvement, not because they’ve signed amazing players.
    I’m not sure they can pull that rabbit out of their hat a second straight year. EVERYTHING broke their way lady year, and they played over their heads all year. Trae didn’t even miss much time.

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    I’m not sure they can pull that rabbit out of their hat a second straight year. EVERYTHING broke their way lady year, and they played over their heads all year. Trae didn’t even miss much time.
    Jalen Johnson's health will be deciding factor, but he keeps getting injured.
    At least they can play Okongwu together with Porzingis since both can shoot.

    Their biggest flaw is playmaking.
    Bogdanovic was their 6th man and secondary creator, NAW and Kennard have no playmaking skills.
    It's going to be all on Trae and teams will just start forcing him to give the ball up.

    Still, they'll obviously make the playoffs in the East.

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    Something like this maybe for Giannis. IDK how salaries exactly lineup and cap and all that.


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    At this point I’m calling Chicago and seeing if they’ll do Patrick Williams broken ass + filler + draft asset for Vassell.

    Williams has 4 years left at about $18M per, Vassell 4 years at about $27M per. Both would be seen as negative contracts around the league imo especially after Williams had a down season. Would obviously need to look into the cause of that drop off at age 24.

    You might be able to get Huerter’s expiring thrown in for shooting. The bulls may be dumb enough to take Keldon as well as SF depth.

    Buzelis and Essengue are their future 3/4 combo even though I think they’re both more 4’s which is what Patrick Williams is.

    Williams is very good shooter and defender but poor rebounder. Doesn’t do much else, low usage player.

    You can still look for an upgrade at the starting 4 spot and move Williams to the bench which is a more suitable role for him anyway or include him in the trade.

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    That sh$t's hilarious.

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    Is there a chance of making something happen around a Sam Hauser and Keldon Johnson trade? What would Boston demand to accept such a trade?

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    Is there a chance of making something happen around a Sam Hauser and Keldon Johnson trade? What would Boston demand to accept such a trade?
    why would the Celtics want to add salary? They want to shed it, so you're better off offering them Branham or Wesley, but they would want assets attached to that one

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    Is there a chance of making something happen around a Sam Hauser and Keldon Johnson trade? What would Boston demand to accept such a trade?
    wouldnt be a thing. theyre in salary shaving mode.

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    Hauser for Branham and Wesley + 2 2nd rounders. Could it be?

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    Hauser for Branham and Wesley + 2 2nd rounders. Could it be?
    That’s $45M over 3 years they would save on Hausers contract not counting any luxury tax penalties.

    I rekon they’d be listening.

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    Hauser for Branham and Wesley + 2 2nd rounders. Could it be?
    Branham or Wesley. You don't need both. That's how they get rid of 5 million. They would want a lot more than that I'd assume. Probably would have to return the swap and I think they would want Champagnie.

    Hauser is not really the player we need. He's more of an SF with low rebounding numbers. We got plenty of those.

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    At this point I’m calling Chicago and seeing if they’ll do Patrick Williams broken ass + filler + draft asset for Vassell.

    Williams has 4 years left at about $18M per, Vassell 4 years at about $27M per. Both would be seen as negative contracts around the league imo especially after Williams had a down season. Would obviously need to look into the cause of that drop off at age 24.

    You might be able to get Huerter’s expiring thrown in for shooting. The bulls may be dumb enough to take Keldon as well as SF depth.

    Buzelis and Essengue are their future 3/4 combo even though I think they’re both more 4’s which is what Patrick Williams is.

    Williams is very good shooter and defender but poor rebounder. Doesn’t do much else, low usage player.

    You can still look for an upgrade at the starting 4 spot and move Williams to the bench which is a more suitable role for him anyway or include him in the trade.
    In addition to Chicago, I think Sacramento and New Orleans have demonstrated they are teams we need to be calling. Of course, I'm sure the rest of the league has caught on to this as well. Certainly Atlanta has figured the Pelicans out as a sucker.

    Just imagine how deadly Devin would look in New Orleans... he's a much better player and fit for them than TMIII... I hope Dumars doesn't find out...

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    In addition to Chicago, I think Sacramento and New Orleans have demonstrated they are teams we need to be calling. Of course, I'm sure the rest of the league has caught on to this as well. Certainly Atlanta has figured the Pelicans out as a sucker.

    Just imagine how deadly Devin would look in New Orleans... he's a much better player and fit for them than TMIII... I hope Dumars doesn't find out...
    Yeah Sacramento, New Orleans are easily the top 2 teams B Wright should have on speed dial. Chicago would come in 3rd. Can’t think of anyone else right now.

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