LMAO. You don't get why the sun comes up every morning. Contracts? We don't need no steenking contracts.
tbh... that's probably coming at some point. Because the kinds of leagues in the middle east who would offer insane amounts probably isn't the league who is going to sign on to some kind of interleague non-poaching agreement. I just hope this gets prolonged as much as possible. Once the Qataris and Saudis decided basketball is their new favorite sport, we're ed
Well look at the positive side. If there is an expansion draft in a couple of years it will be easy to pick which players to protect. Typically you can only protect 8.
Wemby
Harper
Castle
Bryant (maybe)
Fox (Maybe, but also might be smart to let the Seattle SuperSonics or Vegas High Rollers take that contract)
Forego and don’t protect anybody else lol
lol well if a contract isn't a contract then there are a couple salaries the Spurs might want to renegotiate, or just stop paying
Fun thought exercise!
Depending on when it happened, you're right... Fox might be exactly who you leave unprotected... though that's the kind of situation where if you leave him unprotected you damn well better hope he gets picked, otherwise it's gonna be a awkward!
With all the bad contracts out there, an expansion team could probably put together a pretty decent veteran team, but one that would instantly put you in the 2nd apron
Maybe the league could do a deal where the expansion teams were not subject to the apron and the league subsidized their payrolls for the first couple of years... the other teams would probably be all for it just to view the expansion teams just starting out as dumping grounds.
Your 2027 Seattle Supersonics!
De'Aaron Fox
Jamal Murray
Jaylen Brown
Lauri Markkanen
Joel Embiid
There's about $270MM in payroll right there
FIBA and the NBA signed an agreement decades ago to prevent cross poaching.
In the past, expansion teams have acquired players with a wink agreement to move them in trades.Fun thought exercise!
Depending on when it happened, you're right... Fox might be exactly who you leave unprotected... though that's the kind of situation where if you leave him unprotected you damn well better hope he gets picked, otherwise it's gonna be a awkward!
With all the bad contracts out there, an expansion team could probably put together a pretty decent veteran team, but one that would instantly put you in the 2nd apron
Maybe the league could do a deal where the expansion teams were not subject to the apron and the league subsidized their payrolls for the first couple of years... the other teams would probably be all for it just to view the expansion teams just starting out as dumping grounds.
Your 2027 Seattle Supersonics!
De'Aaron Fox
Jamal Murray
Jaylen Brown
Lauri Markkanen
Joel Embiid
There's about $270MM in payroll right there
I’m wondering if the expansion teams are constrained by the cap, a
lesser cap, or no cap. If a player is selected, does the team losing the player get an exception?
Yes, I understand. It's still pretty absurd. Non-competes and otherwise shouldn't be legal. If someone doesn't want to work for you, they shouldn't have to work for you. This, again, is cartel behavior and should be illegal.
The anti-poaching agreement would only be between the NBA owners and players union. If a player ever breaks an NBA contract to go somewhere else, he can't ever play in the NBA again. The players might not like that, but it's something the owners would absolutely lock the players out to achieve if it was ever a threat.
It's a difficult situation because the move is between two basketball worlds that operate under different rules, but you can't expect Nuggets to lose value because player doesn't want to be there, but is actually valuable if we're talking basketball ability.
The only redeeming factor for them is that they didn't give up anything useful for Valanciunas, but hypothetically if they gave up a FRP, that wouldn't have been fair towards them.
This more isn't that relevant for the NBA, but it would set a dangerous precedent.
A lot of European players have buyout clauses when they get drafted and their teams get compensated by NBA teams that draft them.
Obviously a couple of million wouldn't mean anything to the Nuggets.
It's one of those strange situations without a good answer, but that will determine how things are done in the future.
Someone mentioned blood money states, Dubai just joined Euroleague. Who's to say they won't start throwing big money at solid NBA starters within a few years?
Players who would never get more than 10 to 15 million a year in the NBA, but can get 30 to 40 from oil states. What happens then?
We don't have any of those right now, but for the sake of discussion let's pretend it's 2014 and Dubai offers Danny Green 30 million a year. What then, Spurs just let him go and lose a lot of value for nothing?
As I said, there's no good answer because it's an uncharted territory and however this Valanciunas situation plays out, it will set a precedent for future deals.
This is such a re ed take. These are athletes making tens-of-millions of dollars, surrounded by sophisticated advisers and lawyers. They're free to contract as they please. This isn't some 40k/year guy being locked into a job.
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BREAKING: The Clippers, Jazz and Heat have agreed to a trade that sends Norman Powell to Miami, John Collins to Los Angeles, and Kevin Love, Kyle Anderson and a 2027 Clippers second-round pick to the Jazz, sources tell ESPN.
Jollins sold for basically a second? JFC.
Sheeesh so the spurs really didn’t want Collins lol that’s nothing that Utah got
I believe Kyle still has a contract past this year. So, they took back money moving Colling for a 2nd. That feels like a missed opportunity unless we have something else going (which I doubt)
The Collins dream is dead (again)
Already ing ruined golf
Outside of this board his market was small.
its a nice move for clippers for sure.While we still aint doing .
How did miami send the corpses of Kevin love and Kyle Anderson into norm powell coming off that season
Clippers flipped powell for a starting PF and now are one of the favorites to land Beal for cheap. Quote the coup
Annoying that he's going to the Clippers, potential good move for them.
Man that's a great get for Miami. Norman powell was becoming something out there. Might be the most impactful move out there.
Collins with harden and kawhi is interesting. It was pretty much on the wall that no one was paying for that contract. He's also mentioned he wants a long term extension. Sure that's what's hindered teams commiting as well.
Jazz were too greedy with a couple possible fringe star players. Good to see ol boy finally see a real trade market for once.
I see you’ve never heard of a contract.
The agreement doesn’t say players can’t flow between Europe and the NBA. It happens all of the time. It just says that FIBA will not sign you while you are currently under contract with the NBA, and vice versa.
Still surprised the spurs let Mamu walk if they didn’t have a plan for an upgrade lol
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