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    Wemby's build alone ensure he's never going to be a dominant low-post player. A nice jump hook would be a great add to his repertoire though cause nobody on earth would be able to stop it. Not his game though unfortunately, at least not yet.

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    You’re stuck in the 90s, brah. Unless you’re a unicorn like Jokic or Wemby who can create for themselves and for others, you’re not winning an MVP as a big. If you expect him to get into the paint, catch an entry pass, and throw up a hook shot, AND be in the MVP convo, you will be disappointed. That type of game makes him a support player, dependent on guards to get him the ball. The only post player to win since Duncan was Joel Embiid, and the voters got ripped to shreds for that. Jokic should be sitting on a four peat. Jokic is an offensive hub, as Wemby could be.

    BTW, Wemby shot 42% on pull up 3s last year, and that includes the logo shots.
    Bigs just accounted for 6 straight MVP's until their run was finally halted this season.

    Wembanyama will obviously never be back to the basket oriented as he doesn't have the power of a Chamberlain, O'Neal or even those who combined enough of it with finesse (Abdul-Jabbar, Olajuwon, Duncan, P. Gasol, Jokic, Embiid), but he needs to be able to punish switches a la Porzingis.

    The latter mostly catches it at the nail, takes one or two crab/power dribbles to regain balance and create separation to shoot over the top.

    If he can become similarly efficient/proficient at it, he'll largely neutralize Brooks and his ilk being able to defend him.

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    Bigs just accounted for 6 straight MVP's until their run was finally halted this season.

    Wembanyama will obviously never be back to the basket oriented as he doesn't have the power of a Chamberlain, O'Neal or even those who combined enough of it with finesse (Abdul-Jabbar, Olajuwon, Duncan, P. Gasol, Jokic, Embiid), but he needs to be able to punish switches a la Porzingis.

    The latter mostly catches it at the nail, takes one or two crab/power dribbles to regain balance and create separation to shoot over the top.

    If he can become similarly efficient/proficient at it, he'll largely neutralize Brooks and his ilk being able to defend him.
    Freak is nearly the same offensive player as Wemby, minus the three pointer, so, not a ‘big’, and I already accounted for Jokic as a unicorn. He doesn’t post to score most of the time, he posts to create, and he does equally wild shots, handles and passes as Wemby.

    Putting Wemby in the post is a death sentence to the team, and any MVP hopes, and might be the only thing to drive him out of SA. He is what he is, and you kinda need to wrap your head around that. He’s never going to be Duncan or even Robinson, but aside from categorizing him as a big,you were on the right track with the Freak. Look to his creative game, and KD’sfor what Wemby’s template I’d look for him to follow. A Super Jumbo wing.

    The highlighted part is exactly what Pop would want him to do, be a 7’5” DeRozan, living in the mid range. In today’s game, the best shots are at the rim,and outside the arc. If you score in bulk in those areas, you win games, playoff series, and les.

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    Freak is nearly the same offensive player as Wemby, minus the three pointer, so, not a ‘big’, and I already accounted for Jokic as a unicorn. He doesn’t post to score most of the time, he posts to create, and he does equally wild shots, handles and passes as Wemby.

    Putting Wemby in the post is a death sentence to the team, and any MVP hopes, and might be the only thing to drive him out of SA. He is what he is, and you kinda need to wrap your head around that. He’s never going to be Duncan or even Robinson, but aside from categorizing him as a big,you were on the right track with the Freak. Look to his creative game, and KD’sfor what Wemby’s template I’d look for him to follow. A Super Jumbo wing.

    The highlighted part is exactly what Pop would want him to do, be a 7’5” DeRozan, living in the mid range. In today’s game, the best shots are at the rim,and outside the arc. If you score in bulk in those areas, you win games, playoff series, and les.
    They're nothing alike. Antetokounmpo is a more explosive and obviously powerful athlete, who is the premier paint scorer since O'Neal (if Williamson could ever get out of his own way, he'd challenge him) and transition force since James.

    Just because he gets his primarily off of dribble drive as opposed to back to the basket like O'Neal, it doesn't not make him a big. Defensively, he's pretty close to strictly a four at this point.

    Jokic (and Embiid), for all his skills, it all stems from being overpowering, whether he's pumping and going after pick and popping from 3, dribble driving or posting up.

    I "wrapped my head around that" the first time I saw Wembanyama play. The comp here is a souped (way) up Porzingis and like him or Towns, he needs to be able to post switches/mismatches to combat burly wing/forwards from neutering his preferred pick and pop/dribble drive game.

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    Who’s checking Wemby’s deltoids more than his game?

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    Wemby starting with the Queen's pawn opening.

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    Wemby starting with the Queen's pawn opening.
    A sign of sophistication and class.

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    Wemby's build alone ensure he's never going to be a dominant low-post player. A nice jump hook would be a great add to his repertoire though cause nobody on earth would be able to stop it. Not his game though unfortunately, at least not yet.
    My thoughts exactly

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    The blend of Kareem and Durant

    If he can achieve that, and 80 percent of LeBron's longetivity, then he is the GOAT

    But these are early days, anything is possible

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    He smoked Vic

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    He smoked Vic
    yeah, even if Wemby had gotten his queen back, Gobert's rook would have taken it right back. Vic knew it right away.

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    Wemby's muscles look more defined

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    To me right now Wemby game reminds me of Ralph Sampson of Houston.

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    To me right now Wemby game reminds me of Ralph Sampson of Houston.
    I guess you’re referring to their chess games.

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    To me right now Wemby game reminds me of Ralph Sampson of Houston.
    Yea but let’s hope his career doesn’t end up anything like Ralph’s because his feet gave out on him in his mid-late 20’s. He was never the same player again and was out of the league by 31.

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    yeah, even if Wemby had gotten his queen back, Gobert's rook would have taken it right back. Vic knew it right away.
    Well that, and Rudy had 2 rooks left at the end game to Vic’s handful of pawns. Rudy, as he says, probably took too long to end it.

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    Nice to see Jeremy attending the event !

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    Make him play it out Vic?
    At this level, Rudy could have accidentally stalemated him.
    Although with 2 rooks, it’s very “hard” to do. It would take some work.

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    Wemby forcing his way to LAL?

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    Which one of you is in the neon green shirt?

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    Yea but let’s hope his career doesn’t end up anything like Ralph’s because his feet gave out on him in his mid-late 20’s. He was never the same player again and was out of the league by 31.
    I thought it was Sampson's knees. I think Houston rushed him back from a knee injury that should have knocked him out for the season in 87 and he was never the same player again. Though the Sampson comparison to Wemby is nuts IMO, only thing they share is body type. Sampson was an above average defender but Wemby has Bill Russell level potential defensively and is already way way better than Sampson ever was on that end. Offensively Sampson didn't have Wemby's jumper and was nowhere close to the passer Wemby is. About the only thing they have in common offensively is both being devastating finishers in transition. I watched Sampson's entire career and I just don't see him at all in Wemby.

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    Wow, that's a wild coincidence running into Vic.

    Didn't Eric coach in the NBA for a little while? I remember his name, don't think he was an NBA head coach for many seasons, though? I know he now coaches college. Is he a well regarded coach?

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    Eric spent 3 seasons as an NBA head coach like 20 years ago. He is the head coach of USC now. Don't believe he "ran" into Vic, maybe tangentially related through a sponsor or camp or something.

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