Pick #38 - Strategies

[LeBowen]

Feels like SRPs peaked in value during the season, with the new NIL so many potential second rounders won't enter the draft, making SRPs not as desirable.

[ChumpDumper]

Feels like SRPs peaked in value during the season, with the new NIL so many potential second rounders won't enter the draft, making SRPs not as desirable.

I suppose it will push this class and the next one or two into the future. Then 2nd round pick value should even out again as their eligibility runs out and the talent void disappears going forward -- everyone will just be older.

[spurraider21]

What happened? No pick around 38 was traded for a significant package.

36 got traded for 2 second rounders. we traded 38 for 1

[spurraider21]

I suppose it will push this class and the next one or two into the future. Then 2nd round pick value should even out again as their eligibility runs out and the talent void disappears going forward -- everyone will just be older.

true, but the second round probably is the place to take older players who may be more pro-ready in exchange for a lack of perceived upside. tyler kolek was a shining example of this last year

[ChumpDumper]

true, but the second round probably is the place to take older players who may be more pro-ready in exchange for a lack of perceived upside. tyler kolek was a shining example of this last year

I think it will be moreso in the future as more players stay in college. Less this draft and the next.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

36 got traded for 2 second rounders. we traded 38 for 1

Yeah, I was critical of the Spurs decision making yesterday but reality showed they’ve judged the market well.

Only picks 31 and 32 were traded for more value than 38.

Pick 36 was traded twice - first time for 2 seconds, however, these are 2nds Phoenix are receiving from Houston in the Durant trade. Houston didn’t have any good seconds, in fact a lot of them were of the kind ‘lesser of…’

So then during the actual draft pick 36 is traded again - for pick 45 and cash. Yikes. Then pick 41 was traded for picks 52 and 59. Give me a clean Sacramento 2nd any time over these.

Safe to say the Spurs got the 3rd best package of any second round pick that was traded.

I addressed it here. I don't think the haul for 36 was as good as ours considering what Phoenix held.

[venitian navigator]

Should had gone for Fleming.
He was cheap, could of had him for 38 and another couple of second round future picks.

Totally agree, expecially of we already had a wink wink deal with kornet agent...its Just my idea or we effectively lack a big and strong 3d Power forward ? Fleming May be limited but imho has exactly the skills we lack and Need on our roster...no One of Sochan, Barnes, Champagnie, KJ or Bryant (alas all the possibile pf players on our actual roster) have that kind of qualities...and Isee no One on the fa market with them too...

[exstatic]

Draft #1: spurs trade their second rounder(s)
ST is pissed
Ensuing season reveals gaps in the roster
Offseason discussions about draft picks and how we’ll use them
Posters get excited about potential second rounders.
Draft #2: Spurs trade their second rounder(s)
ST is pissed.

Never change, ST. You’re the modern day Charlie Brown to PATFO’s Lucy, constantly pulling away the second round football.

[venitian navigator]

Draft #1: spurs trade their second rounder(s)
ST is pissed
Ensuing season reveals gaps in the roster
Offseason discussions about draft picks and how we’ll use them
Posters get excited about potential second rounders.
Draft #2: Spurs trade their second rounder(s)
ST is pissed.

Never change, ST. You’re the modern day Charlie Brown to PATFO’s Lucy, constantly pulling away the second round football.

Idk exstatic... I'm just wondering if the FO was thinking they left something on the table... Wright interwiew gave the impression that maybe they could have done something more after number 2 (obvious choice) and the lucky 14 (they tried in vane to advance for Bryant but he fall anexpectedly on their range). You disagree on my thought that Flemings position and skills look like the stuff our roster lack?

[exstatic]

Idk exstatic... I'm just wondering if the FO was thinking they left something on the table... Wright interwiew gave the impression that maybe they could have done something more after number 2 (obvious choice) and the lucky 14 (they tried in vane to advance for Bryant but he fall anexpectedly on their range). You disagree on my thought that Flemings position and skills look like the stuff our roster lack?

IDK. Anything they may have missed out on, they made up for with CB falling to them.

[Bruno]

So, Spurs got $2.5M in cash consideration:
https://www.sportsbusinessclassroom....trade-2025-26/

For comparison, a couple of other trades featuring cash considerations and second round picks happened that night:
- #55 + $2.5M for #45
- #45 + $3.25M for #36

[sfernald]

So, Spurs got $2.5M in cash consideration:
https://www.sportsbusinessclassroom....trade-2025-26/

For comparison, a couple of other trades featuring cash considerations and second round picks happened that night:
- #55 + $2.5M for #45
- #45 + $3.25M for #36

Thabk god. I heard they going to use that cash on the new ST servers!

[ginobilized]

Thanks, Bruno!

Is there any way some of that could go toward refreshing our servers here at SpursTalk?

[ginobilized]

Thabk god. I heard they going to use that cash on the new ST servers!

Like minds here, you beat me by seconds

[Russ]

Thanks, Bruno!

Is there any way some of that could go toward refreshing our servers here at SpursTalk?

More likely the cash will go to one corner of one bathroom in the new arena.

If you're not Steve Ballmer, the journey to one billion begins with 2.5 million.

[BackHome]

I think the Spurs are following there game plan and so we might see another trade during next season or after the season. The only question who will it be “Keldon or Vassell” or maybe both, though I don’t think that will happen.

[KobesAchilles]

I think the Spurs are following there game plan and so we might see another trade during next season or after the season. The only question who will it be “Keldon or Vassell” or maybe both, though I don’t think that will happen.

The problem will be value. 2 years ago you probably could’ve gotten a FRP for KJ. Now it would be a SRP. And the same will be the risk for Vassell. This offseason he was worth a FRP, but next offseason? I actually think the Lakers would want him and would look to trade Vassell to them.

[Ariel]

The problem will be value. 2 years ago you probably could’ve gotten a FRP for KJ. Now it would be a SRP. And the same will be the risk for Vassell. This offseason he was worth a FRP, but next offseason? I actually think the Lakers would want him and would look to trade Vassell to them.

A second? I doubt you can get matching expiring. If Vassell doesn't have a good season (more efficient on offense, improvement on defense, better advanced numbers) he's going to enter negative value territory (if he isn't already there).

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

A second? I doubt you can get matching expiring. If Vassell doesn't have a good season (more efficient on offense, improvement on defense, better advanced numbers) he's going to enter negative value territory (if he isn't already there).

It’s true that the pure 2 seem to be phased out, especially if they don’t have plus size and positional flexibility. Teams nowadays prefer having either combo guards/additional ballhandlers or 3nD wings. Players like Sexton, Cam Thomas, etc are worth next to nothing and even the better ones like Monk are thrown around like thrash in trade talks.

I really like Vassell but his archetype might be less valuable going forward.

[exstatic]

It’s true that the pure 2 seem to be phased out, especially if they don’t have plus size and positional flexibility. Teams nowadays prefer having either combo guards/additional ballhandlers or 3nD wings. Players like Sexton, Cam Thomas, etc are worth next to nothing and even the better ones like Monk are thrown around like thrash in trade talks.

I really like Vassell but his archetype might be less valuable going forward.

Then you let him roll off, and don’t have to take back salary. His contract ends in 2029 as Harper’s prospective contract extension would begin

There’s also the fact that not all pieces in any given trade have value beyond making the trade work. We traded Zach Collins with no fuss at all, and people here were ing like it was a Bradley Beal level contract.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Then you let him roll off, and don’t have to take back salary. His contract ends in 2029 as Harper’s prospective contract extension would begin

There’s also the fact that not all pieces in any given trade have value beyond making the trade work. We traded Zach Collins with no fuss at all, and people here were ing like it was a Bradley Beal level contract.

Yeah I agree, I don’t think his contract is going to be a burden and it can be useful for salary matching, especially in a couple of years when it won’t have too many years left and as it continues to go down as percentage of the cap.