Spurs Select F Jeremy Sochan with the 9th Pick in the 2022 NBA Draft

[Pauleta14]

I know it won't happen but Sochan shouldn't be extended, period. Even at a "friendly" price

Places are limited and I'd rather give his PT to other players, starting with Bryant.

But PATFO will give a "family deal", it's written smh

[scott]

From Sochan's POV, this is a huge blow for him. He was entering a "make or break" season with tens of millions on the line. If he had a big Eurocup and pre-season/season-start, I could have seen a healthy extension coming his way... but this derails all of that. If this calf injury lingers into the season, I could see him having to simply accept playing on the QO next year and rolling the dice on UFA in the summer of 2027.

I sure as hope I'm right about this... but I don't think Wright is going to hand Sochan a charity contract. The stakes are raised and I think the FO has proven to be more shrewd than that as of late. I think the Keldon contract was right-place-right-time scenario for him, where the team needed to make the salary floor and Keldon was showing progress and promise as a scorer. I think the FO probably has some buyer's remorse on Devin's deal and have learned from that mistake.

At least that's what I'm hoping. If I'm Wright, there is no way I'm offering more than 3/30 at this point, and even then that is a little generous. Right now Sochan's still a guy who has a lot to prove but now he's injured yet again with the kind of injury that can potentially linger into the season and nag throughout. On top of that, Carter Bryant is lingering, showing promise in the things that are Sochan's strong suit (man defense) and the areas where Jeremy has faltered (shooting).

For Sochan's camp, this has got to be viewed as an unmitigated disaster.

[KobesAchilles]

From Sochan's POV, this is a huge blow for him. He was entering a "make or break" season with tens of millions on the line. If he had a big Eurocup and pre-season/season-start, I could have seen a healthy extension coming his way... but this derails all of that. If this calf injury lingers into the season, I could see him having to simply accept playing on the QO next year and rolling the dice on UFA in the summer of 2027.

I sure as hope I'm right about this... but I don't think Wright is going to hand Sochan a charity contract. The stakes are raised and I think the FO has proven to be more shrew than that as of late. I think the Keldon contract was right-place-right-time scenario for him, where the team needed to make the salary floor and Keldon was showing progress and promise as a scorer. I think the FO probably has some buyer's remorse on Devin's deal and have learned from that mistake.

At least that's what I'm hoping. If I'm Wright, there is no way I'm offering more than 3/30 at this point, and even then that is a little generous. Right now Sochan's still a guy who has a lot to prove but now he's injured yet again with the kind of injury that can potentially linger into the season and nag throughout. On top of that, Carter Bryant is lingering, showing promise in the things that are Sochan's strong suit (man defense) and the areas where Jeremy has faltered (shooting).

For Sochan's camp, this has got to be viewed as an unmitigated disaster.

Is this the same type of injury that Halliburton had before he tore his Achilles? Bc I am worried about Sochan and that leg of his. I believe he has had this same injury for over a year now. That’s definitely not a good sign going forward.

For Sochan and his camp, there are two ways to look at this. A nightmare as you say. I have no idea where the Spurs and Sochan were in negotiations. Maybe there was a 4 year 100 million dollar deal on the way that is now on the back burner.

The second way to look at it is If Sochan really believes that he has improved his jumper and can actually shoot the ball in game then he should take a shorter deal with maybe a player option. Something like 2/30. The Spurs pay him money and if he has a season then at least he has another year to fall back on. But if he explodes in the year and shows promise then he can opt out and get a better contract.

But as far as I’m concerned these types of injuries may lead to a championship down the future. Signing him for cheap has to be a prerogative for the Spurs. The only way to win consistently going forward is by having cheap role players that complement your star players. If we extend Sochan for cheap and he improves like a lot of his believers here constantly tell me he has improved then this is great news for the Spurs.

[spurraider21]

Says a lot he hasn't signed an extension yet. Anything more than 3/$30m is an overpay.

spurs have a history of getting these rookie extensions done at or near the deadline, to be fair

[spurraider21]

sochan's 5th year qualifying offer will be somewhere between 9.5 and 10mil, though his cap hold until he signs will be north of 20mil

[scott]

sochan's 5th year qualifying offer will be somewhere between 9.5 and 10mil, though his cap hold until he signs will be north of 20mil

Does the extra cap hold even matter if we’re over the cap (but below the 1st apron) anyway?

[spurraider21]

Does the extra cap hold even matter if we’re over the cap (but below the 1st apron) anyway?

nah cap holds dont matter at all for teams operating above the cap. for teams that have been above the cap for years, you'll find some ancient hilarious cap holds that are there since there hasnt really been any incentive to renounce them

lakers still have cap holds for carmelo anthony and dwight howard

warriors still have them for matt barnes and andrew bogut

but if for whatever reason the spurs wanted to operate below the cap (they wouldnt), its just something to note.

[Truckules]

Is this the same type of injury that Halliburton had before he tore his Achilles? Bc I am worried about Sochan and that leg of his. I believe he has had this same injury for over a year now. That’s definitely not a good sign going forward.

We don't know the extent of either injury, but yes, Haliburton had a hamstring injury prior to tearing his Achilles. I believe there was at least one other player who tore their Achilles last season after having a hamstring injury which is probably why the decision to shut him down was made.

Sochan's never been listed as out due to a hamstring before, but he's had other minor lower body injuries. So far, there's been nothing to warrant concern that he has persistent medical issues. My guess is both the Spurs and Jeremy think this upcoming season is important for him so they decided to play it as safe as possible.

[scott]

We don't know the extent of either injury, but yes, Haliburton had a hamstring injury prior to tearing his Achilles. I believe there was at least one other player who tore their Achilles last season after having a hamstring injury which is probably why the decision to shut him down was made.

Sochan's never been listed as out due to a hamstring before, but he's had other minor lower body injuries. So far, there's been nothing to warrant concern that he has persistent medical issues. My guess is both the Spurs and Jeremy think this upcoming season is important for him so they decided to play it as safe as possible.

I believe Jeremy is currently diagnosed with a calf injury, not a hamstring injury.

[tbdog]

I think NBA teams will be more careful with any leg injuries because Achilles tears seem to be happening more often. Calf and ankle issues can be early warning signs, so teams will likely slow down ramp-ups, limit minutes, and rest players on back-to-backs. It might be annoying now, but it’s better than risking an Achilles tear.

[rogcl1]

We don't know the extent of either injury, but yes, Haliburton had a hamstring injury prior to tearing his Achilles. I believe there was at least one other player who tore their Achilles last season after having a hamstring injury which is probably why the decision to shut him down was made.

Sochan's never been listed as out due to a hamstring before, but he's had other minor lower body injuries. So far, there's been nothing to warrant concern that he has persistent medical issues. My guess is both the Spurs and Jeremy think this upcoming season is important for him so they decided to play it as safe as possible.

Halliburton had a calf strain in game 5. Sochan also has a calf injury.

[itzsoweezee]

Halliburton had a calf strain in game 5. Sochan also has a calf injury.

Yup. Calf injuries are scary. Durant also had one before his Achilles tear. They need to be taken very sexually

[ismael-robert]

Yup. Calf injuries are scary. Durant also had one before his Achilles tear. They need to be taken very sexually

Uhhh typo or u got Sochan a Lil too much on ur mind

[itzsoweezee]

Uhhh typo or u got Sochan a Lil too much on ur mind

lol. I’ll stand by it. It’s a very *tender* muscle

[Rocalcio]

We don't know the extent of either injury, but yes, Haliburton had a hamstring injury prior to tearing his Achilles. I believe there was at least one other player who tore their Achilles last season after having a hamstring injury which is probably why the decision to shut him down was made.

Sochan's never been listed as out due to a hamstring before, but he's had other minor lower body injuries. So far, there's been nothing to warrant concern that he has persistent medical issues. My guess is both the Spurs and Jeremy think this upcoming season is important for him so they decided to play it as safe as possible.

This.

Apparently Spurs FO has been pushing Sochan to leave his national team so he could heal properly, despite his injury not being too serious, they are worrying it could lead to an achille issue.

This has been reported in a French website, which quoted this polish link : https://www.sport.pl/koszykowka/7,64...ml#s=SNO_Img_1

[Mnky]

From Sochan's POV, this is a huge blow for him. He was entering a "make or break" season with tens of millions on the line. If he had a big Eurocup and pre-season/season-start, I could have seen a healthy extension coming his way... but this derails all of that. If this calf injury lingers into the season, I could see him having to simply accept playing on the QO next year and rolling the dice on UFA in the summer of 2027.

I sure as hope I'm right about this... but I don't think Wright is going to hand Sochan a charity contract. The stakes are raised and I think the FO has proven to be more shrew than that as of late. I think the Keldon contract was right-place-right-time scenario for him, where the team needed to make the salary floor and Keldon was showing progress and promise as a scorer. I think the FO probably has some buyer's remorse on Devin's deal and have learned from that mistake.

At least that's what I'm hoping. If I'm Wright, there is no way I'm offering more than 3/30 at this point, and even then that is a little generous. Right now Sochan's still a guy who has a lot to prove but now he's injured yet again with the kind of injury that can potentially linger into the season and nag throughout. On top of that, Carter Bryant is lingering, showing promise in the things that are Sochan's strong suit (man defense) and the areas where Jeremy has faltered (shooting).

For Sochan's camp, this has got to be viewed as an unmitigated disaster.

When you watch film from his first year until this past year, you can tell physically his body has taken a toll as far as vertical and explosive movement. He has not been able to stay healthy. Another season long lingering injury is definitely a worse case scenario for him this year with the contract coming up. Guy can't grow if he can't ever play healthy. Hard to commit to so many question marks surrounded by health concerns. Outside of the Spurs having the insider view and faith on things, tough to imagine this one working out for him.

[cutewizard]

The three friends rapidly becoming irrelevant

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Sochan faking injury to suppress trade value?

[spurraider21]

Sochan faking injury to suppress trade value?

or sabotaging his hopes at securing a nice extension?

[Raven]

i'm getting very worried about him and his injuries tbh.

[cutewizard]

its trading time

Jaylen is waiting

[Obstructed_View]

I am a huge Baylor fan and was super excited to get Jeremy. Now I understand why Scott Drew didn't start him.

It's time to move on.

[SupremeGuy]

Man, as much as I think ting on Sochan is funny; he's kind of been given a raw deal by the Spurs.

Senile/political poop was clearly functioning as well as the autopen administration.

Let Mitch cook.

I'm rooting for him.

[Dverde]

They did a re-draft of Sochan’s draft class on Windhorst’s podcast and no one picked Jeremy.

[J_Paco]

When you watch film from his first year until this past year, you can tell physically his body has taken a toll as far as vertical and explosive movement. He has not been able to stay healthy. Another season long lingering injury is definitely a worse case scenario for him this year with the contract coming up. Guy can't grow if he can't ever play healthy. Hard to commit to so many question marks surrounded by health concerns. Outside of the Spurs having the insider view and faith on things, tough to imagine this one working out for him.

Yeah, I was saying that earlier in the thread about this past season.

He looked better by the end of the season, but he definitely seems to be lacking the "pop" or verticality/explosiveness he had his rookie season.

Maybe it's not resting enough during the off-season, his body still adjusting to the NBA grind, or something else? Still, I like his skill set even with the issues of a lack of an offensive game or perimeter shooting.