The Peaceful Peanut Farmhouse of Carter Bryant

[baseline bum]

If anyone wants what I consider to be outstanding understandable reading, I have some suggestions with specific chapters or pages.

IDK any quantum books I really love but if you want a great one on special relativity I highly recommend Taylor & Wheeler's Spacetime Physics (1ed). Basically teaches the whole subject in two chapters with lots of fun problems and occasionally uses simple calculus but not too often. Only downside is it doesn't present Einstein's derivation of rest energy E=mc^2 using the doppler effect, but you can go easily read his original paper after chewing on enough problems from that book.

[SupremeGuy]

You are just repeating yourself and not explaining yourself.

as for not knowing anything about Ochem, i suppose it’s true i haven’t done anything related for a decade but as a biochem major i had to take 4 separate Ochem classes in undergrad one of which was a lab course. And you haven’t demonstrated what this evidence is for carbon being designed. Or you can refer me to a published paper which makes the case for it

carbon has four valence electrons which gives it a lot of reactive flexibility. There are plenty of other elements with 4 but carbon is just the lightest of them making those compounds more stable. Like every other element. That’s all great. That doesn’t on its own imply design.

Bruh ochem labs were basically setting up the apparatus, then waiting to get your end product. I had some cool TAs so they'd let us leave and then come back. We'd usually go get drinks and smoke in the parking lot then come back. lol Good times.

[SupremeGuy]

I really don't want to get involved in the conversation but if you guys like theoretical physics, check out anything by Brian Greene.

[ChumpDumper]

Wut

Told you it was neat. I know the secret.

[spurraider21]

Bruh ochem labs were basically setting up the apparatus, then waiting to get your end product. I had some cool TAs so they'd let us leave and then come back. We'd usually go get drinks and smoke in the parking lot then come back. lol Good times.

Of course labs were less intensive

[ChumpDumper]

I am nowhere near as smart as you people, but needing an advanced chemistry degree to be able to conclude god exists these days just makes me think god is terrible at PR or got super lazy.

You used to part seas and turned chicks into salt. You changed, man.

[baseline bum]

Btw, people that “know” quantum mechanics often say if you really think you understand quantum mechanics, you don’t understand quantum mechanics.

And it’s clearly because it does not make physical, mechanistic sense. But the math involved in doing quantum mechanics works well for right now for the tiniest of phenomena we try to understand.

If anyone wants what I consider to be outstanding understandable reading, I have some suggestions with specific chapters or pages.

On what should not be in a basketball forum. Apologies.

Speaking of quantum physics, check this awesome derivation of Heisenberg's uncertainty principle

[pgardn]

I am nowhere near as smart as you people, but needing an advanced chemistry degree to be able to conclude god exists these days just makes me think god is terrible at PR or got super lazy.

You used to part seas and turned chicks into salt. You changed, man.

I don’t know what smart even means.

All I know is that taking science classes and then keeping up is pleasing. And understanding what science is and is not, is important.
Religion and science clash usually when religion does not change its views on the universe as we know it today. The immutability of the Bible (Talmud, whatever, etc…)especially. Science, imo, will never allow us to know everything partially because of our biological makeup and inability to sense all that surrounds us and to then describe this mechanistically. We work very well in understanding using analogy and metaphors that fit into our range of sensory information. Then we rely on math. And sometimes the math makes no sense with our abilities to understand physical mechanisms we never will or can perceive.

I have repeatedly stated this but some posters, not you, deny. Modern science absolutely DOES NOT rely on the supernatural for explanation. Modern science has taken on certain subjects that we thought only had supernatural explanations because we invented techniques to measure, and even explain results mathematically. Science bypassed some of supernatural using its much more stringent methods. But only when things like the microscope, telescope, LHC were invented. (Lots more here)

I am addressing you, chumper, because when I have addressed some others directly with a quote, they continually misrepresent. And repeat these misrepresentations. The underlined is specifically for posters who insist science uses supernatural explanations. Maybe we have a different definition of supernatural. And if science does use supernatural explanations, the explanation should be, “we don’t know”.
This is not answerable using the methods of science at this time.

Sorry for going off track on your post. It seems I cannot directly give my opinion to some and have it understood so I bailed out.
And imo a limited human mind like we all have, can see the purpose of science and religion. Can compare and contrast. I believe it is a very human thing to self examine why you believe what you believe. It can be unsettling for some.

[pgardn]

Speaking of quantum physics, check this awesome derivation of Heisenberg's uncertainty principle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0EChbwSuuQ

The first two minutes or so are incredibly insightful.

The rest goes through experiments and reasons through them.

4:00 to 5:00 incredibly important. Metaphor analogy thru experience don’t work, but math does.

Feynman is fantastic and this old stuff is the best imo.
The actual experiment starts at 9:27

[pgardn]

If you want it written out read 3.1 for the above.

I will say that the results described in 3.2 are bizzare if you read about what the light detector sees.

https://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/III_03.html


BB your uncertainty principle comes in at about 41:30 in the video and 3.2 in the written lecture

[pgardn]

I really don't want to get involved in the conversation but if you guys like theoretical physics, check out anything by Brian Greene.

Imo he would be better if he could stop with the string theory and move on. He has started to.
Also try Sean Carroll and Brian Cox. All still alive.

[pgardn]

Of course labs were less intensive

Not for me. Clumsy fingers.

[scott]

This thread reminds me of the Made From Dust days.

I specifically took physics so as not to have to deal with Bio and Chem, but I do know that "Carbon is so special we can't explain it, therefor God" is a pretty ing stupid argument that only appeals to mouth breathers who think algebra is some kind of voodoo magic.

[scott]

Imo he would be better if he could stop with the string theory and move on. He has started to.
Also try Sean Carroll and Brian Cox. All still alive.

Brian Cox is my favorite "smart guy media personality"

I also like the YouTube content that Veritasium puts out.

[LeBowen]

we can't explain it, therefor God

This is basically the entire premise for every religion.

[SupremeGuy]

Not for me. Clumsy fingers.

Dress codes... etc. Pretty sure every chemistry department has some evidence of someone who ed up and dropped a conc acid.

You always have to respect what you're doing in any lab.

[ismael-robert]

A lot if not everything spurraider has said has said about scripture needs some background/ historical context to it. It'll take some time but the Genesis record of creation does agree with science...not sure where he gets stuff being out of order from. And pulling random verses out for shock value isn't justified when u can't explain WHY certain actions were taken. Comparing historical acts from the beginnings of man to today's sensitive society yeah you're gonna get a "how could they reaction" when it was cultural norms of that time.But in the end I dont like wasting time debating such matters because these are all just excuses for people to not have to change or submit to something bigger than themselves. The whole Bible is about Christ, theres no conflicts between old n new. I'll focus on why people won't accept Him n saying well its cause of these verses from old testament isn't it...its Your hearts. I've said it before you think you've found a contradiction or error or read a website or book from some atheist...go look same verse up on a faith based page n you'll get the true context. You can't read scripture through the flesh. It has to be read from the spirit n it will speak to you. When I met Christ I had a Paul-like experience...its like scales came off my eyes n I saw whole world differently. Yall read it with intent to criticize n redicule...not with honesty or desire to see deeper meanings.
And I'd love for yall to come check out MetaChurch on Potranco near 151. Pastor also says its a place where you can belong BEFORE you believe. He loves for unbelievers to come in and wrestle with truth. Just come as you are with your t-shirts, jeans, tennis shoes, shorts, tats, whatever we dont care. Pm me n I'll get your lunch! Our pastor has a blog on YouTube where he tackles cultures hot topics n canceled conversations

[ismael-robert]

And yeah maybe by definition you can call what I believe a religion n yall can laugh im sure u heard it before that we believe what we have is a relationship, not a religion. We have an active, living, breathing relationship with God through Christ. He loves us n we love Him. We speak to Him n He speaks back through the scriptures. Just come one Sunday what yall got to lose? Come prove us wrong!

[ismael-robert]

And yeah this ain't the place blah blah....well dont come posting offensive stuff n it won't devolve into this...yall open it then get upset when it goes this direction

[Gagnrath]

I have an idea.... Lets get the topic/thread back onto basketball. What do you guys think is more likely to help Sochan's shooting? Someone scientifically breaking down his shooting difficulties or Carter praying that his teammate stops bricking them?

[couchman]

I think we should let’s Carter Bryant settle this:
If he ever becomes NBA all defensive team and shoots above league average from 3 in the same season = there is a God who gets all the credit and glory.
If Bryant doesn’t achieve these things then he’s on his own and it’s his fault.
Deal?

[Gagnrath]

This thread reminds me of the Made From Dust days.

I specifically took physics so as not to have to deal with Bio and Chem, but I do know that "Carbon is so special we can't explain it, therefor God" is a pretty ing stupid argument that only appeals to mouth breathers who think algebra is some kind of voodoo magic.

Once you start trying to use irrational numbers it is voodoo magic. Once something becomes irrational why would you continue to mess with it... Something doesn't make sense.