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    What a strange hill for GOJ to die on.

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    I am a Democrat. I voted for Kamala, Biden, Hilary, Obama x 2. GOJ represents why people hate Democrats. So incredibly tone deaf and obstinate for no reason. Had Pablos not gone full MAGA at the end, he may have pulled off beating GOJ, and we would have been better for it.
    The others also represent why we hate Democrats. You can add Beto, Pocahontas, Newsom, Maxine, Abrams, Ellison, AOC, Omar, Walz, and pretty much every other Democrat.

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    The others also represent why we hate Democrats. You can add Beto, Pocahontas, Newsom, Maxine, Abrams, Ellison, AOC, Omar, Walz, and pretty much every other Democrat.
    ^^^ loves caping for billionaires

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    Ehh. If this was Trump, it would be "art of the deal!" bull from his supporters. We'll see what happens.

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    The $2B number being used is interesting to me, because $1.4B of it is undefined, kind of squishy, and almost comes across as inflated fluff if you know your way around how economic development incentives are spoken about (hint: they're usually bull ... kind of like Trump's "they investing trillions into our country!" BS). Regardless, even if that number is only $140MM instead of $1.4B, it's still a pretty good deal for the community, IMO.

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    The others also represent why we hate Democrats. You can add Beto, Pocahontas, Newsom, Maxine, Abrams, Ellison, AOC, Omar, Walz, and pretty much every other Democrat.
    How dare her help register niggers to vote in Georgia.

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    Hey i think it's great that maybe, just maybe, a corporation would have to explain why they want to take money from people and what that money would be used for? Just because someone doesn't live in San Antonio doesn't mean they deserve to pay more.

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    Hey i think it's great that maybe, just maybe, a corporation would have to explain why they want to take money from people and what that money would be used for? Just because someone doesn't live in San Antonio doesn't mean they deserve to pay more.
    For example, hotels would be taxed more, correct?

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    Hey i think it's great that maybe, just maybe, a corporation would have to explain why they want to take money from people and what that money would be used for? Just because someone doesn't live in San Antonio doesn't mean they deserve to pay more.
    Sure it does. I love that Rocket fan and Laker fan pay for our arena.

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    I mean, if an independent report has been conducted, Spurs and their allies could squash that by publishing it now. Take all the wind out of her sails.

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    Was it delivered in May right at the same time there was an election for the Mayor, etc.? 😂

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    What a strange hill for GOJ to die on.
    Maybe, but I also think us diehards overstate the levels of “love for the Spurs” there is in the city.

    But Gina has also done a poor job articulating the alternative vision — have to be “for” something and be ready to be judged for that vis-a-vis the alternative (a shiny stadium). People will forever compare.

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    Spurs should just announce they are taking meetings with other cities and watch all of you clutch your pearls and light Manu candles. They are paying any overrun costs (so you know it won’t cost more), many cities get stuck with overrun costs. Part of the terms is the Spurs are locked into SA for 30 years. Spurs have minority owners without SA ties.

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    Maybe, but I also think us diehards overstate the levels of “love for the Spurs” there is in the city.

    But Gina has also done a poor job articulating the alternative vision — have to be “for” something and be ready to be judged for that vis-a-vis the alternative (a shiny stadium). People will forever compare.
    The mayor can't point to an alternative because there really isn't an alternative to point to. The main mechanism of city funding for this project can only be designated for this project. It's not like they have the $489 million available to spend on anything they want. If the project proceeds, the funding is going to roll in for the next 30 years. If it's not, the funding won't roll in at all.

    The county's tax is an existing one and has been used for many other projects when the money wasn't going to the FBC. Not the same.

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    Hey i think it's great that maybe, just maybe, a corporation would have to explain why they want to take money from people and what that money would be used for? Just because someone doesn't live in San Antonio doesn't mean they deserve to pay more.
    Because ultimately it is the people of San Antonio voting for it. And it's easier for them to pitch the idea if the cost isn't falling wholly on San Antonians, but rather those who choose to visit.

    Do you think they are going to put out a country-wide notice and be like "Hey, what do you think if your hotel costs $2 more" when anybody who responds doesn't really have a say in the matter?

    Do you think people are going to choose not to come to San Antonio because "those darn tax raises"?

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    Maybe, but I also think us diehards overstate the levels of “love for the Spurs” there is in the city.

    But Gina has also done a poor job articulating the alternative vision — have to be “for” something and be ready to be judged for that vis-a-vis the alternative (a shiny stadium). People will forever compare.
    As stated already, she isn’t “for” anything,or at least anything that this funding can be used for.

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    She showed up uninvited lol.


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    She showed up uninvited lol.

    I guess she hasn’t cut her political wrists enough yet.

    Gina, you’ve lost the engagement, the battle, and the war. Part of a successful political career is recognizing when that’s happened. You weren’t invited because you are becoming a PITA.

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    She's ing annoying

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    Best comment: "Can she be our mayor?"

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    If the majority of San Antonians are ok with being committed to $489 with a hard cap on cost overruns, they probably don't think an EIA is necessary. My gut - based on 0 data - is that the majority would be in favor of funding that commitment with a hotel/rental car tax and with a promise of a GMP on that commitment.

    Which is a long way of saying this mayor is ing atrocious.

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    Best comment: "Can she be our mayor?"
    Gina,if you weren’t crashing events you weren’t invited to, you wouldn’t have to hear hurtful comments like that.

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    ^^^ loves caping for billionaires
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