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    not sure that's any better

    Ghislaine Maxwell told a top official of the Department of Justice that former President Bill Clinton never visited Jeffrey Epstein's private island estate and had no independent relationship with him outside of the trips the ex-president took on Epstein's plane in the early 2000s, according to a transcript of Maxwell's interview with the DOJ that was released Friday.


    "President Clinton was my friend, not Epstein's friend," Maxwell told Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche. "President Clinton liked me, and we got along terribly well. But I never saw that warmth with Mr. Epstein."
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/ghislaine-...y?id=124898831

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    Bill Richardson is mentioned a few times, but without many contextual clues about what he was doing

    I'm sure there's more stuff out there than what got released today

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    ST Democrats: Let the chips fall where they may.

    ST Trump s: No! Not those chips! Not that where!

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    ST Democrats: Let the chips fall where they may.

    ST Trump s: No! Not those chips! Not that where!
    shielding the in-group from exposure

    their loyalty to the great man is more important than the truth and trumps every scruple

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    shielding the in-group from exposure

    their loyalty to great man trumps every scruple
    Now come on -- give them some credit.

    Maybe they just like raping children.

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    getting away with it is part of the kink, sadism and domination come into play here
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    ST Democrats: Let the chips fall where they may.

    ST Trump s: No! Not those chips! Not that where!
    I say let the chips fall where they may, as long as they aren't doctored, and the Biden admin and the 2021-22 era Pelosi/Jeffries majority had plenty of time to doctor them up well after he was strangled to death in prison in 2019.

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    I say let the chips fall where they may*
    tell me how that conspiracy theory works.

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    Now come on -- give them some credit.

    Maybe they just like raping children.
    As if the Dems don't...

    Epstein was a Dem.
    Bill Clinton is a Dem.
    Anthony Weiner is a Dem.
    Gary Condit, who absolutely did rape and kill Chandra Levy, was a Dem.

    oh, and Jay Jones, newly-elected Democrat AG-Elect of Virginia, wants to kill your children if you aren't a good liberal Democrat parent, torture and kill them in front of your face and then shoot you in the head with two bullets even if Hitler and Pol Pot were alive and able to be shot dead instead.


    Source: Politico


    • Democratic aide to Senator Barbara Boxer, Jeff Rosato, plead guilty to charges of trading in child pornography.
    • Democratic donor and billionaire, Jeffrey Epstein, ran an underage child sex brothel and was convicted of soliciting underage girls for pros ution.
    • Democratic New York Congressman, Anthony Weiner, plead guilty to transferring obscene material to a minor as part of a plea agreement for sexted and sending Twitter DMs to underage girls as young as 15.
    • Democratic donor, activist, and Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein is being criminally prosecuted and civilly sued for years of sexual abuse (that was well known “secret” in Hollywood) including underage sexual activities with aspiring female actresses.
    • Democratic activist and #metoo proponent, Asia Argento, settled a lawsuit for sexual harassment stemming from sexual activities with an underage actor.
    • Democratic Mayor of Racine, Wisconsin, Gary Becker, was convicted of attempted child seduction, child pornography, and other child sex crimes.
    • Democratic Seattle Mayor Ed Murray resigned after multiple accusations of child sexual abuse were levied against him including by family members.
    • Democratic activist and aid to NYC Mayor De Blasio, Jacob Schwartz was arrested on possession of 3,000+ child pornographic images.
    • Democratic activist and actor, Russell Simmons, was sued based on an allegation of sexual assault where he coerced an underage model for sex.
    • Democratic Governor of Oregon, Neil Goldschmidt, after being caught by a newspaper, publicly admitted to having a past sexual relationship with a 13-year-old girl after the statute of limitations on the rape charges had expired.
    • Democratic Illinois Congressman, Mel Reynolds resigned from Congress after he was convicted of statutory rape of a 16-year-old campaign volunteer.
    • Democratic New York Congressman, Fred Richmond, was arrested in Washington D.C. for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old boy.
    • Democratic activist, donor, and director, Roman Polanski, fled the country after pleading guilty to statutory rape of a 13-year-old girl. Democrats and Hollywood actors still defend him to this day, including, Whoopi Goldberg, Martin Scorcese, Woody Allen, David Lynch, Wim Wenders, Pedro Almodovar, Tilda Swinton and Monica Bellucci.
    • Democratic State Senator from Alaska, George Jacko, was found guilty of sexual harassment of an underage legislative page.
    • Democratic State Representative candidate for Colorado, Andrew Myers, was convicted for possession of child pornography and enticing children.
    • Democratic Illinois Congressman, Gus Savage was investigated by the Democrat-controlled House Committee on Ethics for attempting to rape an underage female Peace Corps volunteer in Zaire. The Committee concluded that while the events did occur his apology was sufficient and took no further action.
    • Democratic activist, donor, and spokesperson for Subway, Jared Fogle, was convicted of distribution and receipt of child pornography and traveling to engage in illicit sexual conduct with a minor.
    • Democratic State Department official, Carl Carey, under Hillary Clinton’s state department, was arrested on ten counts of child porn possession.
    • Democratic Maine Assistant Attorney General, James Cameron, was sentenced to just over 15 years in federal prison for seven counts of child porn possession, receipt and transmission.
    • Democratic State Department official, Daniel Rosen, under Hillary Clinton’s state department, was arrested and charged with allegedly soliciting sex from a minor over the internet.
    • Democratic State Department official, James Cafferty, pleaded guilty to one count of transportation of child pornography.
    • Democratic radio host, Bernie Ward, plead guilty to one count of sending child pornography over the Internet.
    • Democratic deputy attorney general from California, Raymond Liddy, was arrested for possession of child pornography.
    • Democratic Illinois State Representative, Keith Farnham, has resigned and was charged with possession of child pornography and has been accused of bragging at an online site about sexually molesting a 6-year-old girl.
    • Democratic spokesperson for the Arkansas Democratic Party, Harold Moody, Jr, was charged with distribution and possession of child pornography.
    • Democratic Radnor Township Board of Commissioners member, Philip Ahr, resigned from his position after being charged with possession of child pornography and abusing children between 2 and 6 years-old.
      Democratic activist and BLM organizer, Charles Wade, was arrested and charged with human trafficking and underage pros ution.
    • Democratic Texas attorney and activist, Mark Benavides, was charged with having sex with a minor, inducing a child under 18 to have sex and compelling pros ution of at least nine legal clients and possession of child pornography. He was found guilty on six counts of sex trafficking.
    • Democratic Virginia Delegate, Joe Morrissey, was indicted on charges connected to his relationship with a 17-year-old girl and was charged with supervisory indecent liberties with a minor, electronic solicitation of a minor, possession of child pornography and distribution of child pornography.
    • Democratic Massachusetts Congressman, Gerry Studds, was censured by the House of Representatives after he admitted to an inappropriate relationship with a 17-year-old page.
    • Democratic Former Mayor of Stillwater, New York, Rick Nelson was plead guilty to five counts of possession of child pornography of children less than 16 years of age.
    • Democratic Former Mayor of Clayton, New York, Dale Kenyon, was indicted for sexual acts against a teenager.
    • Democratic Former Mayor of Hubbard, Ohio, Richard Keenan, was given a life sentence in jail for raping a 4-year-old girl after claiming “she initiated it”.
    • Democratic Former Mayor of Winston, Oregeon, Kenneth Barrett, was arrested for setting up a meeting to have sex with a 14-year-old girl who turned out to be a police officer.
    • Democratic Former Mayor of Randolph, Nebraska, Dwayne L. Schutt, was arrested and charged with four counts of felony third-degree sexual assault of a child and one count of intentional child abuse.
    • Democratic Former Mayor of Stockton, California, Anthony Silva, was charged with providing alcohol to young adults during a game of strip poker that included a 16-year-old boy at a camp for underprivileged children run by the mayor.
    • Democratic Former Mayor of Millbrook, New York, Donald Briggs, was arrested and charged with inappropriate sexual contact with a person younger than 17.
    • Democratic party leader for Victoria County, Texas, Stephen Jabbour, plead guilty to possession and receiving over half a million child pornographic images.
    • Democratic activist and fundraiser, Terrence Bean, was arrested on charges of sodomy and sex abuse in a case involving a 15-year-old boy and when the alleged victim declined to testify, and the judge dismissed the case.
    • Democratic Party Chairman for Davidson County, Tennessee, Rodney Mullin, resigned amid child pornography allegations.
    • Democratic activist, Andrew Douglas Reed, pleaded guilty to a multiple counts of 2nd-degree sexual exploitation of a minor for producing child pornography.
    • Democratic official from Terre Haute, Indiana, David Roberts was sentenced to federal prison for producing and possessing child pornography including placing hidden cameras in the bedrooms and bathrooms at a home he shared with two minor female victims.
    • Democratic Texas attorney and activist, Mark Benavides, was charged with having sex with a minor, inducing a child under 18 to have sex and compelling pros ution of at least nine legal clients and possession of child pornography. He was found guilty on six counts of sex trafficking.
    • Democratic Virginia Delegate, Joe Morrissey, was indicted on charges connected to his relationship with a 17-year-old girl and was charged with supervisory indecent liberties with a minor, electronic solicitation of a minor, possession of child pornography and distribution of child pornography.
    • Democratic Massachusetts Congressman, Gerry Studds, was censured by the House of Representatives after he admitted to an inappropriate relationship with a 17-year-old page.
    • Democratic Former Mayor of Stillwater, New York, Rick Nelson was plead guilty to five counts of possession of child pornography of children less than 16 years of age.
    • Democratic Former Mayor of Clayton, New York, Dale Kenyon, was indicted for sexual acts against a teenager.
    • Democratic Former Mayor of Dawson, Georgia, Christopher Wright, was indicted on the charges of aggravated child molestation, aggravated sodomy, rape, child molestation and statutory rape of an 11-year-old boy and a 12-year-old girl.

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    As if the Dems don't...

    Epstein was a Dem.
    Bill Clinton is a Dem.
    Anthony Weiner is a Dem.
    Gary Condit, who absolutely did rape and kill Chandra Levy, was a Dem.

    oh, and Jay Jones, newly-elected Democrat AG-Elect of Virginia, wants to kill your children if you aren't a good liberal Democrat parent, torture and kill them in front of your face and then shoot you in the head with two bullets even if Hitler and Pol Pot were alive and able to be shot dead instead.


    Source: Politico


    • Democratic aide to Senator Barbara Boxer, Jeff Rosato, plead guilty to charges of trading in child pornography.
    • Democratic donor and billionaire, Jeffrey Epstein, ran an underage child sex brothel and was convicted of soliciting underage girls for pros ution.
    • Democratic New York Congressman, Anthony Weiner, plead guilty to transferring obscene material to a minor as part of a plea agreement for sexted and sending Twitter DMs to underage girls as young as 15.
    • Democratic donor, activist, and Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein is being criminally prosecuted and civilly sued for years of sexual abuse (that was well known “secret” in Hollywood) including underage sexual activities with aspiring female actresses.
    • Democratic activist and #metoo proponent, Asia Argento, settled a lawsuit for sexual harassment stemming from sexual activities with an underage actor.
    • Democratic Mayor of Racine, Wisconsin, Gary Becker, was convicted of attempted child seduction, child pornography, and other child sex crimes.
    • Democratic Seattle Mayor Ed Murray resigned after multiple accusations of child sexual abuse were levied against him including by family members.
    • Democratic activist and aid to NYC Mayor De Blasio, Jacob Schwartz was arrested on possession of 3,000+ child pornographic images.
    • Democratic activist and actor, Russell Simmons, was sued based on an allegation of sexual assault where he coerced an underage model for sex.
    • Democratic Governor of Oregon, Neil Goldschmidt, after being caught by a newspaper, publicly admitted to having a past sexual relationship with a 13-year-old girl after the statute of limitations on the rape charges had expired.
    • Democratic Illinois Congressman, Mel Reynolds resigned from Congress after he was convicted of statutory rape of a 16-year-old campaign volunteer.
    • Democratic New York Congressman, Fred Richmond, was arrested in Washington D.C. for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old boy.
    • Democratic activist, donor, and director, Roman Polanski, fled the country after pleading guilty to statutory rape of a 13-year-old girl. Democrats and Hollywood actors still defend him to this day, including, Whoopi Goldberg, Martin Scorcese, Woody Allen, David Lynch, Wim Wenders, Pedro Almodovar, Tilda Swinton and Monica Bellucci.
    • Democratic State Senator from Alaska, George Jacko, was found guilty of sexual harassment of an underage legislative page.
    • Democratic State Representative candidate for Colorado, Andrew Myers, was convicted for possession of child pornography and enticing children.
    • Democratic Illinois Congressman, Gus Savage was investigated by the Democrat-controlled House Committee on Ethics for attempting to rape an underage female Peace Corps volunteer in Zaire. The Committee concluded that while the events did occur his apology was sufficient and took no further action.
    • Democratic activist, donor, and spokesperson for Subway, Jared Fogle, was convicted of distribution and receipt of child pornography and traveling to engage in illicit sexual conduct with a minor.
    • Democratic State Department official, Carl Carey, under Hillary Clinton’s state department, was arrested on ten counts of child porn possession.
    • Democratic Maine Assistant Attorney General, James Cameron, was sentenced to just over 15 years in federal prison for seven counts of child porn possession, receipt and transmission.
    • Democratic State Department official, Daniel Rosen, under Hillary Clinton’s state department, was arrested and charged with allegedly soliciting sex from a minor over the internet.
    • Democratic State Department official, James Cafferty, pleaded guilty to one count of transportation of child pornography.
    • Democratic radio host, Bernie Ward, plead guilty to one count of sending child pornography over the Internet.
    • Democratic deputy attorney general from California, Raymond Liddy, was arrested for possession of child pornography.
    • Democratic Illinois State Representative, Keith Farnham, has resigned and was charged with possession of child pornography and has been accused of bragging at an online site about sexually molesting a 6-year-old girl.
    • Democratic spokesperson for the Arkansas Democratic Party, Harold Moody, Jr, was charged with distribution and possession of child pornography.
    • Democratic Radnor Township Board of Commissioners member, Philip Ahr, resigned from his position after being charged with possession of child pornography and abusing children between 2 and 6 years-old.
      Democratic activist and BLM organizer, Charles Wade, was arrested and charged with human trafficking and underage pros ution.
    • Democratic Texas attorney and activist, Mark Benavides, was charged with having sex with a minor, inducing a child under 18 to have sex and compelling pros ution of at least nine legal clients and possession of child pornography. He was found guilty on six counts of sex trafficking.
    • Democratic Virginia Delegate, Joe Morrissey, was indicted on charges connected to his relationship with a 17-year-old girl and was charged with supervisory indecent liberties with a minor, electronic solicitation of a minor, possession of child pornography and distribution of child pornography.
    • Democratic Massachusetts Congressman, Gerry Studds, was censured by the House of Representatives after he admitted to an inappropriate relationship with a 17-year-old page.
    • Democratic Former Mayor of Stillwater, New York, Rick Nelson was plead guilty to five counts of possession of child pornography of children less than 16 years of age.
    • Democratic Former Mayor of Clayton, New York, Dale Kenyon, was indicted for sexual acts against a teenager.
    • Democratic Former Mayor of Hubbard, Ohio, Richard Keenan, was given a life sentence in jail for raping a 4-year-old girl after claiming “she initiated it”.
    • Democratic Former Mayor of Winston, Oregeon, Kenneth Barrett, was arrested for setting up a meeting to have sex with a 14-year-old girl who turned out to be a police officer.
    • Democratic Former Mayor of Randolph, Nebraska, Dwayne L. Schutt, was arrested and charged with four counts of felony third-degree sexual assault of a child and one count of intentional child abuse.
    • Democratic Former Mayor of Stockton, California, Anthony Silva, was charged with providing alcohol to young adults during a game of strip poker that included a 16-year-old boy at a camp for underprivileged children run by the mayor.
    • Democratic Former Mayor of Millbrook, New York, Donald Briggs, was arrested and charged with inappropriate sexual contact with a person younger than 17.
    • Democratic party leader for Victoria County, Texas, Stephen Jabbour, plead guilty to possession and receiving over half a million child pornographic images.
    • Democratic activist and fundraiser, Terrence Bean, was arrested on charges of sodomy and sex abuse in a case involving a 15-year-old boy and when the alleged victim declined to testify, and the judge dismissed the case.
    • Democratic Party Chairman for Davidson County, Tennessee, Rodney Mullin, resigned amid child pornography allegations.
    • Democratic activist, Andrew Douglas Reed, pleaded guilty to a multiple counts of 2nd-degree sexual exploitation of a minor for producing child pornography.
    • Democratic official from Terre Haute, Indiana, David Roberts was sentenced to federal prison for producing and possessing child pornography including placing hidden cameras in the bedrooms and bathrooms at a home he shared with two minor female victims.
    • Democratic Texas attorney and activist, Mark Benavides, was charged with having sex with a minor, inducing a child under 18 to have sex and compelling pros ution of at least nine legal clients and possession of child pornography. He was found guilty on six counts of sex trafficking.
    • Democratic Virginia Delegate, Joe Morrissey, was indicted on charges connected to his relationship with a 17-year-old girl and was charged with supervisory indecent liberties with a minor, electronic solicitation of a minor, possession of child pornography and distribution of child pornography.
    • Democratic Massachusetts Congressman, Gerry Studds, was censured by the House of Representatives after he admitted to an inappropriate relationship with a 17-year-old page.
    • Democratic Former Mayor of Stillwater, New York, Rick Nelson was plead guilty to five counts of possession of child pornography of children less than 16 years of age.
    • Democratic Former Mayor of Clayton, New York, Dale Kenyon, was indicted for sexual acts against a teenager.
    • Democratic Former Mayor of Dawson, Georgia, Christopher Wright, was indicted on the charges of aggravated child molestation, aggravated sodomy, rape, child molestation and statutory rape of an 11-year-old boy and a 12-year-old girl.
    We were talking about ST Trump s.

    RIF

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    tell me how that conspiracy theory works.
    the Dems have a lot more of their own, plus big money donors that fund their own which are far more important, than the GOP has to lose here

    I could see a few GOP names coming out like Lindsey Graham as being kiddie rapists, that guy has always creeped me the out. Generally the more religious evangelical the more likely they are to rape kids.

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    the Dems have a lot more of their own, plus big money donors that fund their own which are far more important, than the GOP has to lose here
    Show your numbers for both.

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    I say let the chips fall where they may, as long as they aren't doctored, and the Biden admin and the 2021-22 era Pelosi/Jeffries majority had plenty of time to doctor them up well after he was strangled to death in prison in 2019.
    so did Trump

    who was president in 2019, btw?

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    feels like it could be another Sandy Hook moment

    Sandy Hook made it clear that this country was ok with mass shootings of preschoolers, what the Epstein Files seem to be making clear is that participating in a pedophile ring isn't politically disqualifying

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    feels like it could be another Sandy Hook moment

    Sandy Hook made it clear that this country was ok with mass shootings of preschoolers, what the Epstein Files seem to be making clear is that participating in a pedophile ring isn't politically disqualifying
    "if a single Dem got away with it, it's only fair that that the whole Republican Party should get a pass for propelling one to ultimate political power"

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    it's worth mentioning in passing that the NYT had real-time information about Trump-Epstein for a decade and reported none of it

    the so-called liberal NYT

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    NYT reporter, worried about trump's mental health, asks Epstein to reach out to Trump to help keep his head on straight



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    🔭 Zoom out: The Epstein files are an issue now because Trump and his top allies — from Vice President Vance to FBI director Kash Patel to Attorney General Pam Bondi — had promised to release the investigative files before Trump won the 2024 presidential election.


    • That promise energized Trump's conspiracy-thirsty MAGA base, which saw the files involving Epstein — a convicted sex trafficker who died in prison in 2019 — as a chance to expose crimes among the rich and powerful.



    Then in July, six months after taking office, Trump reversed course and forbade the release of the files.


    • "He told Pam [Bondi] not to release the files. We don't exactly know why," said another Trump insider.
    https://www.axios.com/newsletters/ax...78e312428.html

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    Trump asked for an apology for Diddy

    From Robert Frank's "Richistan"



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    Bannon wheedling Epstein for money in 2018

    From: Steve Bannon Sent: 2/24/2018 1:26:54 PM To: Jeffrey Epstein [[email protected]] Subject: Re: Lawyer for Susan Rice: Obama administration 'justifiably concerned' about sharing intel with Trump team - POLITICO
    Importance: High

    Yes...I've got the 2nd best--best is don mcgahn who is occupied currently Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

    From: "jeffrey E."
    Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 08:24:39 -0500
    To: Steve Bannon____________________
    Subject: Re: Lawyer for Susan Rice:

    Obama administration justifiably concerned' about sharing intel with Trump team - POLITICO

    understood. but need details. money needed for think tank, for ads. for policy meetings. . though leaders. we could also make the coin in some instances non negotiable for 2 years. . is there a super smart FEC person. ?

    On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 8:21 AM, Steve Bannon < > wrote: Populist/Nationalist first Conservative Christians (catholic/evangelical) next Reverse alabama This coalition staves off "times up" for next decade plus Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

    From: "jeffrey E." Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 08:18:09 -0500
    To: Steve Bannon<
    Subject: Re: Lawyer for Susan Rice: Obama administration justifiably concerned' about sharing intel with Trump team - POLITICO
    should it have a christian component? he? if you form a church you may be able to tell mueller you have a confession privelege.

    On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 8:14 AM, Steve Bannon -_ On it Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > wrote:

    From: "jeffrey E." Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2018 08:13:08 -0500
    To: Steve Bannon<>
    Subject: Re: Lawyer for Susan Rice: Obama administration justifiably concerned' about sharing intel with Trump team - POLITICO HOUSE OVERSIGHT 026260

    coin issues. : receive coins, distribute coins, pay in coins, coin cooperative, prohibitions foreign donor.? i need to understand flow of funds. . donor to campiagn c?s. does it have to go to campaign first. . does it have to go there at all etc.

    On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 7:48 AM, Steve Bannon < I> wrote: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...n-trump-423437

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    eight months later, Epstein was dead



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    (victim) to Epstein: I hope Trump isn't there



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