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Oh really? So what did you think Zelensky was bull ting about? I never saw you once even disagree with him in over 1,000 pages on this thread.
Untrue.
I'm just on the right side of history against Putin and his bootlick, you.
Oh really? So what did you think Zelensky was bull ting about? I never saw you once even disagree with him in over 1,000 pages on this thread.
Chump with no facts as usual...lmao
Ukraine!
https://united24media.com/latest-new...ld-taboo-13627Russia Starts Selling Off Its Gold Reserves to Fund the War Budget, Breaking a Long-Held Taboo
Russia has begun selling physical gold from its reserves for the first time to help cover widening budget needs, the country’s Central Bank confirmed to Russian media outlet Interfax on November 20.
The move marks a significant shift in how Moscow is tapping its financial buffers to sustain government spending during the war against Ukraine.
According to the Central Bank’s press office, the regulator has started “mirroring” the Finance Ministry’s transactions within the National Wealth Fund—specifically, sales of state-held bullion. Until recently, these operations were mostly accounting maneuvers: the government would “sell” gold from the sovereign fund directly to the Central Bank, meaning the bars never left national reserves and the metal effectively moved only on paper.
Now, the Russian Central Bank is conducting real sales of physical bullion on the domestic market, similar to the way it already trades Chinese yuan assets from the fund. The regulator did not say when the gold sales began or how much metal has been released so far.
The National Wealth Fund held 405.7 metric tons of gold before the full-scale invasion of Ukraine. Since then, the Finance Ministry has liquidated around 57% of that stash—about 232.6 tons—to shore up the budget.
As of November 1, 2025, the fund’s gold holdings have fallen to 173.1 tons. Combined liquid assets, including yuan holdings, have dropped from $113.5 billion before the war to just $51.6 billion today. As a share of Russia’s GDP, unspent reserves have shrunk fourfold.
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Terms of Witkoff's 28-Point Peace Plan are brutal for Ukraine. Zelensky waited too long to begin negotiating and will now be stuck with a bitter pill to swallow in any case.
But the time for peace is now!
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g95x50kdyoUS insists it authored Ukraine peace plan after claims of Russian 'wish list'
On Saturday, Republican Senator Mike Rounds said Rubio had told a group of lawmakers that the draft plan was not US policy.
He told the Halifax Security Forum: "What [Rubio] told us was that this was not the American proposal."
Rounds said he had been assured that the plan was presented to Steve Witkoff, who acts as Trump's overseas diplomatic envoy, by "someone... representing Russia". The senator continued: "It is not our recommendation. It is not our peace plan."
Shortly after, State Department spokesperson Tommy Pigott said Rounds's account of his conversation with Rubio was "blatantly false".
He wrote on X: "As Secretary Rubio and the entire administration has consistently maintained, this plan was authored by the United States, with input from both the Russians and Ukrainians."
Rubio then posted on social media himself, saying: "The peace proposal was authored by the US. It is based on input from the Russian side. But it is also based on previous and ongoing input from Ukraine."
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https://united24media.com/latest-new...t-crisis-13691Russia Can’t Pay Its Soldiers: Yakutia Freezes Military Bonuses Over Budget Crisis
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As of late September 2025, Russia’s regional budgets reported a ulative deficit of 724.8 billion rubles (approximately $8.1 billion), reversing a surplus of 472.1 billion rubles ($5.3 billion) recorded at the same point in 2024. A total of 68 regions were running deficits by that time, up from 45 the previous year.
In October, regional governments in Tatarstan, Chuvashia, Mari El, and Belgorod lowered enlistment payouts, while others canceled additional bonuses altogether.
In Tatarstan, the one-time signing bonus dropped from 2.7 million rubles ($30,000) to 400,000 rubles ($4,500). In Saint Petersburg, a gubernatorial bonus of 1.6 million rubles ($17,800) was eliminated entirely.
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Putin can back out at any time.
The deal includes security guarantees for Ukraine in case he were to.
Rubio denied the 28 point plan is a US do ent in a private meeting with senators, but is not denying that in public. It looks like the Trump administration has been carrying a Russian leaked/drafted plan
Witkoff and Axios got rolled, Trump administration is disarray
According to rumor, JD Vance led the charge to push the Russian plan and kept Trump in the dark
Dan Driscoll is upstaging Hegseth
Hegseth is rumored to be shook
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/1...nence-00663917Army Secretary Dan Driscoll’s high-stakes visit to Ukraine this week to deliver the Trump’s administration’s latest peace plan has placed the service leader into the role of major international negotiator — a sharp contrast from his boss, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, who spent the time in Washington sitting through White House meetings and firing angry missives at Democrats on social media.
Driscoll, a close friend of Vice President JD Vance, met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on Thursday and planned to talk to NATO allies. The high-profile role for Driscoll — whom President Donald Trump refers to as his “drone guy” due to his embrace of cutting-edge tech — is emblematic of the Army chief’s rising prominence in the administration. He is increasingly the public face of ambitious projects and often sells the administration’s plans to reporters, unlike Hegseth, who has focused on the less glamorous tasks of promoting acquisition reform and troop physical fitness, and eliminated most journalists from the Pentagon.
The Army leader’s visit was a profound split screen between a rising star and a novice Pentagon chief who has faced numerous scandals and lost support from some in the administration.
“There’s not a lot of trust in Hegseth to deliver these messages to key leaders,” said a person familiar with administration dynamics. “There is more trust in Dan to do that right now.”
family business with added statecraft, perhaps
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ne-2025-11-22/U.S. officials and lawmakers are increasingly concerned about a meeting last month in which representatives of the Trump administration met with Kirill Dmitriev, a Russian envoy who is under U.S. sanctions, to draft a plan to end the war in Ukraine, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter.
The meeting took place in Miami at the end of October and included special envoy Steve Witkoff, President Donald Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner and Dmitriev, who leads the Russian Direct Investment Fund, one of Russia's largest sovereign wealth funds.
A close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, Dmitriev has taken a leading role in talks with the U.S. about the war and has met with Witkoff several times this year. The Trump administration issued a special waiver to allow his entry, a senior U.S. official told Reuters.
Dmitriev and his fund were blacklisted by the U.S. government in 2022 following Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine. The sanctions effectively bar American citizens and companies from dealing with them.
The meeting resulted in a 28-point plan for ending the war, two people familiar with the situation said. The plan, which was made public this week by Axios, came as a surprise to U.S. officials in various corners of the administration and has stirred confusion at embassies throughout Washington and in European capitals.
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That's Trump's modus operandi. Republicans would never toloerate a Democrat doing this but Trump gets a free pass because Republicans don't want angry tweets directed their way.
Lol "security guarantees"
You mean like a protection racket?
"...The security guarantee would be for an initial 10 years, and could be renewed by mutual consent...."
https://www.axios.com/2025/11/21/ukr...rticle-5-trump
What a joke.
Disappointing that Trump is still fartin' around with this
Just walk away
The rumor is they could be NATO like security guarantees which is a major committment. It means we could get dragged into their war if it restarts.
10 years is plenty of time for things to settle down and for Ukraine to build up much better fortifications and overall defenses than it did have.
Lol "NATO-like"
A 10 year security guarantee is . And the plan doesn't even guarantee that we'll respond in that time frame if Russia attacks further. It's a nothing plan that probably came from Moscow and Trump is putting out there to say he is trying to help.
You keep falling for the same conservative podcast bull every time.
It's in our interest not to. That's why we've been messing around with this from the get go. How did you Trump s turn into Russkies so fast?
Trump is a sock puppet
The inmates are running the asylum and wield the presidential autopen
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