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    Yeah, that's not a recipe for stability, more like the opposite
    That country couldn't be anymore unstable that it was on January 3rd.

    I bet Trump is bad at 3D chess too
    I think he's paying beyond 3D chess.

    Those against outnumber those for in recent polls, it isn't just progressives and radicals who disagree, independents don't like intervention in Venezuela either

    Meh, polls. You still trust them?

    You seem to think it's enough merely to have a justification for action; it isn't. Results count too.

    It's hard to see the benefit to the USA or the wisdom of propping up yet another foreign satrapy over the long term
    For starters - Russia, China, Iran (if they're still a thing today), and Cuba will no longer have a foothold in the Western Hemisphere while the Maduro Junta gives away the wealth of Venezuela in exchange for money and military hardware. Then, there's the interruption of the narco-terrorist conduit through Venezuela. They results are immediate.

    As Venezuela stabilizes, I believe things will improve. As the oil wealth is returned to the country - when the infrastructure is repaired and oil is sold on the world market (including to the U.S., with, I would think beneficial treatment), they may actually return to pre-Chavez vigor - when they were one of the wealthiest countries in the world, instead of the current impoverished hole those two bas turned it into.

    It's a long game but, I think it has a chance at success. Certainly a bigger chance than was evident on January 2nd.

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    ^^^ pure-handwaving and wish-casting

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    All proceeds from the sale of Venezuelan crude oil and products will first settle in US-controlled accounts at globally recognized banks ... those funds will be dispersed for the benefit of the American people and the Venezuelan people at the discretion of the US government.

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    oil tanker taken near Iceland

    wonder what the Russian take on all this is

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarador...r-reports-say/
    , I'm more interested in what Democrats, who accuse Trump of being a Putin lackey, think.

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    You sound confident
    I am.

    "Technate" is accurate according to Technocracy Inc.. Had you ever heard of El0n Musk's eccentric grandfather, Joshua Haldeman?

    https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/long...ted-elon-musk/
    I followed the links. I still don't think the description is accurate.

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    ^^^ pure-handwaving and wish-casting
    Meh, Trump has a pretty good record so far.

    Iran has lost it's nuclear capability and may be in the process of losing it's theocracy due to a precise strike on their program without a single American casualty.
    NATO Countries started paying their fair share due to American diplomacy.
    A number of world conflicts are either over or on a back burner due to American diplomacy.
    ISIS, and ISIS adjacent, extremists are still dropping dead around the globe, thanks to American military might.

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    Remember, yoni said Afghanistan was going to be a stable democracy and that Bushy was going to go on Mount Rushmore because of it.

    Everything about Trump is as perfect as he said everything was about Bush.

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    , I'm more interested in what Democrats, who accuse Trump of being a Putin lackey, think.
    I can't help you on that one, please let us know what you find out

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    I can't help you on that one, please let us know what you find out
    It was rhetorical and meant to indicate I couldn't care less what Putin thinks. It also indicates, I believe, Trump couldn't care less what Putin thinks.

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    Trump cares deeply about what Putin thinks.

    And by extension, yoni cares deeply about what Putin thinks.

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    Seems reasonable.
    to flesh this out, are you saying that it is reasonable wrt equity and cons utional principle for "Venezuela oil money" to flow into "US banks" to be spent at Trump's sole discretion? What part of the US cons ution authorizes that?










    (not including Art II, Sec 4 and Art. III, Sec.3)

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    It was rhetorical and meant to indicate I couldn't care less what Putin thinks. It also indicates, I believe, Trump couldn't care less what Putin thinks.
    Trump's fighting a proxy war against Putin right now, but i think you already knew that. Trump cares what Putin thinks, he's been dog-walked by him before



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    to flesh this out, are you saying that it is reasonable wrt equity and cons utional principle for "Venezuela oil money" to flow into "US banks" to be spent at Trump's sole discretion? What part of the US cons ution covers that?
    What part of the Cons ution prohibits it? I suspect it'll be litigated.

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    What part of the Cons ution prohibits it? I suspect it'll be litigated.
    the idea that the president is free to do whatever is not expressly forbidden by the cons ution is brainrot, pure and simple

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    Raping little children is not expressly forbidden in the US Cons ution, therefore yoni says Trump can rape little children.

    Things are starting to make sense.

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    the idea that the president is free to do whatever is not expressly forbidden by the cons ution is brainrot, pure and simple
    As I said, I suspect it will be litigated.

    Anyway, about that Russian-flagged vessel - a couple of things.

    1) It was accompanied by Russian military surface vessels and a submarine.
    2) The UK, who had said they would no longer provide intelligence assistance to the US, appears to have been involved in the seizure.

    Wonder what, or who, was on board.


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    Of note, Rubio didn't mention the U.S. spending any of the oil revenues...just directing how the funds will be spent by Venezuela.

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    , I'm more interested in what Democrats, who accuse Trump of being a Putin lackey, think.
    Says Trump bootlick

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    Of note, Rubio didn't mention the U.S. spending any of the oil revenues...just directing how the funds will be spent by Venezuela.
    LOOK GUYS HE DIDN'T MENTION IT SO THAT MEANS TRUMP WON'T TOUCH IT

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    I like this guy but, he just swerved out of his lane.

    Do you not think that the U. S. Military that was able to pinpoint Maduro's location and extract him without any American casualties, in about 20 minutes - is unable to surveil the docks of Venezuela to see which boats are filled with surplus gas cans and bricks of dope?

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    Trump doesn't care about the drugs. Quit acting like you do.

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