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    She was having a grand ole time Larping until she got shot in the face


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    When I find confirmation, I'll post it but - in keeping with this forum's practice of making accusations without a single shred of evidence - It's been rumored that Renee Good only had custody of 1 of her 3 children because, the other two were placed in the father's custody after "her wife," Rebecca Good was credibly accused of child abuse. Something about burning one of the children with a cigarette.

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    Liberals are degenerates

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    Authored by a former DOJ prosecutor of 22 years. A plethora of case law cited to support claims.

    Minneapolis Is Not Even A Close Call --A Lawsplainer On Officer-Involved Shootings
    The only perspective that matters is the perspective of the Officer at the time he uses deadly force in response to a threat.
    https://shipwreckedcrew.substack.com...dRedirect=true

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    Oh look. The murderer's apologists are still at it.

    Keep trying, guys.

    He kept shooting after he was absolutely out of the path of the car.

    And ICE denied her medical care.

    And Ross fled the scene.

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    She was having a grand ole time Larping until she got shot in the face

    Why didn't she just ram them to begin with

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    She was having a grand ole time Larping until she got shot in the face

    The narrative is Ross didn't have to shoot her three times in the face.

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    Why didn't she just ram them to begin with
    Right, I can see how ICE and ST Trump s are constantly terrified by women though.

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    Episcopal clergy in New Hampshire preparing to die to protect people from DHS

    “I have asked the clergy of the diocese to make sure their affairs are in order and they have written their wills.,not the time for statements. It is time to put our bodies between the powers of this world and the most vulnerable”. Rob Hirschfeld, Bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of New Hampshire
    https://www.facebook.com/kate.siberi...GW5PQUkJL9iKl#

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    Episcopal clergy in New Hampshire preparing to die to protect people from DHS

    https://www.facebook.com/kate.siberi...GW5PQUkJL9iKl#

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    Thy will be done

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    Thy will be done
    You're saying God wants the federal government secret police to kill priests?

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    DHS detaining Native Americans without cause and roughing them up


    Jose Roberto “Beto” Ramirez found himself sitting in the back of a blacked out Ford SUV, his hands cuffed behind his back as immigration agents mocked and teased him Thursday morning.

    The 20-year-old was forcibly detained by ICE agents despite being a United States citizen and a Red Lake Nation descendant.

    It had been less than 24 hours after immigration agents shot and killed a 37-year-old mother on the southside of Minneapolis, near a historically significant neighborhood for Indigenous peoples to be in community, sparking protests across the nation.

    Ramirez was on his way to his aunt Shawntia Sosa-Clara’s house in Crystal, Minnesota, from McDonald’s when he noticed he was being tailed by a blacked out SUV.

    With Renee Good’s death in the back of his mind, he began to panic.

    Filled with anxiety, he called his aunt for advice. She told him to pull over at a nearby grocery store and wait for her.

    In the HyVee grocery store parking lot, a video from Sosa-Clara’s Facebook shows agents striking Ramirez multiple times on his head and face and dragging him out of his aunt’s vehicle.

    Ramirez said his phone was slapped out of his hand by an agent before the agent began to repeatedly strike him on his face and neck.

    “I was complying with them and they just started acting crazy,” he told ICT. “They were trying to make it seem like I’m some kind of murder, like I did something wrong.”

    Ramirez said multiple times he tried informing the agents he was a US citizen and a descendant of a federally recognized tribe, but his words fell on deaf ears, he said.

    “I felt like I was kidnapped,” he said.

    It’s been more than 24 hours since his detainment, Ramirez still had bruises on his wrists and the back of his neck. His handcuffs were too tight, he said, and every time the agent’s vehicle breaked he’d be sent flying forward, further tugging on the handcuffs.

    Once he arrived at the B.H. Whipple Federal Building in Minneapolis, Ramirez said he had to wait more than three hours outside in the cold. The only available bathroom, a porta potty, was locked. He had no access to food or water and his sweatshirt had been ripped when he was dragged out of his aunt’s car.

    Once he was inside, agents questioned him, he said. They told him he had allegedly assaulted an officer who had since been sent to the hospital and that charges against him were pending. He was told he’d be sent to federal prison for this and that he’d ruined his life, he said.

    At no point was he informed of why he was trailed by officers or apprehended.

    As of Friday, no assault charges have been filed against Ramirez. ICE has not responded to ICT’s requests for comment regarding why Ramirez was detained.

    Other community members have reported agents stopping them without reason and requesting identification.

    Friday morning, on the southside of Minneapolis, Rachel Dionne-Thunder, who is Plains Cree and the co-founder of Indigenous Protectors Movement, said ICE agents stopped her and questioned her near the Powwow Grounds coffee shop.

    Dionne-Thunder said she locked her vehicle doors when agents approached her and knew from prior Know Your Rights training that she did not need to comply with agents’ orders to show her ID or exit the vehicle.

    “They don’t give you a reason [why they’re stopping you],” she said. “They just do it… They arrest and then they ask questions later.”

    Several Native community members exited the coffee shop and came towards Dionne-Thunder’s car, after which the agents got back in their vehicles and left.

    In a Friday press conference with Dionne-Thunder, community leaders, and The Metropolitan Urban Indian Directors, which is a coalition of urban Native organizations, they urged ICE to leave the city and stop harassing the Indigenous community. The group said that a task force of on-the-ground organizers will be patrolling the community to ensure safety.

    Nearly a day after he was freed and bruises remaining from detainment, Ramirez says he’s still shocked by Thursday’s events.

    “I’m nervous to go out now,” he said. “My auntie [Sosa-Clara] especially, she’s really traumatized. I feel bad that I involved her but calling her, I felt safe. She’s my go-to person. She doesn’t even want to go outside. She doesn’t want to send her kids to school.”

    Ramirez said while he was waiting in the Whipple building, he met with a public defender and was released not long after.

    Eventually Ramirez was released around 5:33 p.m. Central Time, a little over six and a half hours after he was initially detained.

    “I thought I was going to be locked up for weeks,” he said. “They told me they were sending me two hours away to Sherbourne County.”

    At home, he was greeted by his little cousins, aunts and uncles.

    “There’s a lot of things going through my mind,” he said. “It was a crazy experience.”
    https://ictnews.org/news/i-felt-like...ce-detainment/

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    COVID is a bigger threat to ICE officers than protesters

    DHS lies about assaults on officers



    Federal agents confront protesters outside of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement building in Portland, Oregon.Mathieu Lewis-Rolland/SIPA/AP

    The Trump administration has repeatedly claimed that it needs to send the military into American cities because of the unique danger faced by federal agents enforcing immigration laws. In October, President Donald Trump claimed the National Guard was required in Illinois to protect Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents facing a “coordinated assault by violent groups.” In September, Department of Homeland Security Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin argued Guardsmen should be deployed in Oregon as a result of “violent riots at ICE facilities” and “assaults on law enforcement.”

    But those, and many similar assertions from the Trump administration, are undercut by ICE’s own data. A Mother Jones review shows that there is little evidence that ICE agents face such severe and widespread danger compared with other law enforcement agencies that they need military personnel to come to their aid or to break from centuries of public accountability by hiding behind masks.

    The Trump administration has provided almost no information to back up its statements about rising assaults, which makes its claims hard to assess. But details about ICE officers who’ve died on the job are readily available on the agency’s website.

    Those records show that none of ICE’s agents have ever been killed by an immigrant in the agency’s more than two-decade history. Instead, the leading cause of death by far among ICE officers is COVID-19. According to ICE’s data, the second leading cause of death is cancer linked to 9/11. (The pandemic and cancers connected to the September 11 terrorist attacks account for 75 percent of the deaths in ICE’s history.)

    Data show that the most recent ICE officer death attributed to something other than cancer or COVID-19 occurred in 2021. But that incident did not involve an immigrant, either. It occurred when a special agent died after his service weapon was accidentally discharged in a parking lot.
    https://www.motherjones.com/politics...ing-dhs-trump/

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    Obama deported more people focusing primarily on criminals, without spreading fear, violence and death in US cities

    DHS isn't sending our best -- "unfit, violent and illiterate" according to the Daily Mail headline

    <50% graduation rate even with no sit-ups and post-hiring background checks


    (paywalled)

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lliterate.html

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    She was having a grand ole time Larping until she got shot in the face

    she dropped off her kid at school ~6 minutes before she got shot

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    Tough way to make a living $0.08 per post
    who would pay to influence the 20 or so regular posters left here?

    just doesn't make sense

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    Homan declines the chance to deny he took $50,000 in a bag from people seeking favors



    WELKER: Where is that $50,000? Did you keep it?

    HOMAN: I didn't take $50k from anybody & that's a question for the FBI. Bottom line I did nothing illegal.

    WELKER: But was there $50k in the bag?

    HOMAN: I'm not addressing it

    WELKER: But did you keep the money?

    HOMAN: $50k is ridiculous

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    DHS lies all day long

    They're simply no longer credible, according to judges, juries and grand juries sitting to consider cases of alleged assault in 2025. DHS can hardly buy a conviction.


    Immigration officers have opened fire 16 times over the past year, resulting in four deaths, according to The Trace. The government often tells similar stories about the incidents: A person stopped by officers tried to run them over, or injured them with their car, necessitating the use of deadly force.



    When an ICE officer shot and killed Silverio Villegas Gonzalez after he tried to flee a traffic stop in his car in Chicago in September, DHS claimed that the officer suffered “severe back injuries, lacerations to hands and substantial tears in knee,” but body-camera footage later showed the officer said the sole cut he suffered was “nothing major.” Video evidence also disproved claims that officers faced life-threatening danger when they shot and wounded two men in separate incidents in California – Carlitos Ricardo Parias and Francisco Longoria. Carlos Jimenez, another ICE shooting victim in California, was charged with assaulting officers with his car, but has argued in courtthat he was driving around an ICE vehicle when officers shot him in the back.



    The claims DHS made against Martinez, a 30-year-old teacher, were so thin they didn’t even make it into court. The charging do ents noted only two cars following the Border Patrol officers and did not mention a gun at all. In court, Martinez’s lawyer argued that body-camera footage showed that Exum swerved to hit Martinez’s car and not the other way around. And Exum himself acknowledged that the vehicle contact “was side to side” rather than a “head-on” ramming maneuver. After the collision, he yelled “Do something, ,” before opening fire, Parente argued in court. And Martinez had not posted a threat against federal agents, contrary to McLaughlin’s statement, her lawyer said prosecutors told him.

    Meanwhile, the government vehicle involved in the incident was driven to Maine, more than 1,000 miles from Chicago. DHS “ordered the Border Patrol in-house mechanic to buff out all of the alleged damage — in this case, a paint swap, essentially,” Parente alleged to HuffPost. “At which point, we were unable to have our expert look at it and show that it was actually the ICE agent’s car that side-swiped her car ... We were in the middle of that destruction-of-evidence hearing when they dismissed the case.”

    Federal prosecutors dropped the charges against Martinez — a spokesperson saidat the time that the office of the U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of New York was “constantly evaluating new facts and information relating to cases and investigations arising out of Operation Midway Blitz” — and the judge dismissed the case.

    Text messages from Exum also showed him bragging about the shooting. “I’m up for another round of ’ around and find out,” he wrote. And later: “I fired 5 rounds, and she had 7 holes. Put that in your book boys.”

    “He was back at work within, I think, three days of the incident in our case,” Parente said.
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/marim...test-news-unit

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    state murders will continue until civility improves

    "We gotta stop the hateful rhetoric. Saying this officer is a murderer is dangerous. It's just ridiculous. It's gonna infuriate people more which means there's gonna be more incidents like this."

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    DHS rounding up Native Americans without cause is basic proof of skin tint discrimination on the part of the government

    As of Saturday, a member of Flanagan’s campaign staff said there are no new updates regarding the four men from the Oglala Sioux Tribe who are said to have been detained by ICE.
    https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/0...ice-operations

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    Because I don't have time to make this forum a full-time endeavor, I fed several of my arguments into ChatGPT and asked for a post, in response to the argument being had here. Below is the result. Now, I'm going to go enjoy my Sunday.

    I think we should reset the conversation and recognize Ms. Good's death did not occur in a vacuum — it happened within a much larger context of immigration enforcement in Minnesota and across the country. Instead of confining our view to a single moment, we need to widen the lens and look at what’s taking place in Minnesota, what federal immigration operations are attempting to do, and how tensions have escalated across the nation as efforts to enforce immigration laws collide with organized resistance.

    First — no serious person celebrates a death. A woman lost her life. A family lost someone they loved. That matters. But acknowledging tragedy does not require abandoning logic, law, or basic situational awareness.

    1. These Agents Were Not Randomly Harassing Civilians

    Minnesota is currently the center of one of the largest immigration enforcement operations in the country. Hundreds to over a thousand arrests have already occurred, many involving individuals convicted of violent crimes — homicide, child sexual assault, rape, weapons offenses, and vehicular homicide.

    Just in recent reporting, ICE highlighted arrests of individuals convicted of:

    Multiple homicides,
    Sexual assault of children,
    Rape and kidnapping,
    Manslaughter and DUI-related killings,
    Armed assaults and repeat violent offenses.

    That matters for context. When agents are operating in that environment, they are not running routine traffic stops — they are actively hunting people who have demonstrated violent behavior. Any stop, any contact, any unexpected interference has to be assessed through that lens. It is entirely plausible that the agents involved were en route to another operation that could have resulted in the arrest of a violent offender like those already do ented. Officers don’t get to mentally “reset” their threat awareness between calls.

    2. Assaults on ICE Agents Are Rising — Especially Vehicle Attacks

    Nationally, DHS has publicly acknowledged a significant increase in assaults against immigration officers over the past year, including a disturbing rise in vehicle-based attacks and ramming incidents. While exact Minnesota-specific numbers have not yet been released, multiple federal officials have warned that vehicles are increasingly being used as weapons against officers.

    That matters because a car is not a neutral object in a confrontation — it is a 3,000-plus-pound kinetic weapon. Courts have repeatedly recognized vehicles as deadly force when used against officers or civilians.

    This is not abstract fear. One of the agents involved in this incident had previously been injured when dragged by a vehicle during an arrest attempt. That experience alone would reasonably heighten threat perception when a suspect vehicle suddenly shifts into motion during a physical confrontation.

    3. Minnesota’s Environment Is Overtly Hostile Toward ICE

    Minnesota’s political and activist environment is aggressively anti-ICE — from state leadership rhetoric to organized activist groups that openly attempt to interfere with enforcement operations. ICE agents operating in the Twin Cities are fully aware that they are being surveilled, followed, confronted, and sometimes obstructed.

    In that environment, a caravan of activists tracking agents throughout the day can reasonably be perceived as a potential ambush scenario — especially when a confrontation suddenly escalates in close proximity with a vehicle.

    Urgent commands to exit a vehicle in that context are not harassment — they are basic officer safety protocol when a rapidly evolving threat environment exists.

    The agents had no way of knowing what the surrounding group intended, what weapons might be present, or whether the situation would escalate into a coordinated interference event.

    4. What We Know About the Moment of the Shooting

    We still do not have every fact. That matters. But based on what has already emerged, this does not resemble murder in any legal sense.

    Key realities:

    One agent was physically engaged at the driver’s door.
    The vehicle was placed into drive during that physical engagement.
    The second agent had a split second to assess whether his partner was about to be dragged, crushed, or pinned — something that had already happened to him in a prior incident.
    The shooting agent had no way to know the driver’s intent once the vehicle moved.
    He had no way to know whether his partner was trapped, caught on the door, or about to be pulled under the vehicle.

    Use-of-force law does not require certainty — it requires reasonable perception of imminent deadly threat. A moving vehicle while an officer is entangled meets that threshold in virtually every use-of-force policy and court precedent in the country.

    That doesn’t make the outcome any less tragic — but tragedy is not the same thing as criminal intent.

    5. About Ms. Good and the Activism Narrative

    Ms. Good was reportedly involved in activist efforts that sought to monitor and interfere with ICE operations. Some activist groups openly describe their purpose as disrupting enforcement activity. That alone doesn’t make someone deserving of harm — but it does matter when evaluating situational risk and escalation dynamics.

    There are conflicting claims circulating online about whether the incident occurred in a simple residential departure or during ongoing activist surveillance activity. Those facts should be clarified through investigation rather than internet speculation.

    What is not accurate is portraying this as a random innocent mother simply pulling out of a driveway with no contextual backdrop. There was an organized activist presence, active engagement with federal officers, and escalating physical proximity to a moving vehicle.

    Those facts change the analysis substantially.

    6. Responsibility and Causation Are Not the Same as Malice

    No one, with any intellectual honesty, is alleging Ms. Good intended to kill anyone. But responsibility in a dynamic confrontation does not require malicious intent. Actions matter — especially when they introduce lethal risk to others.

    Placing a vehicle into motion while an officer is physically engaged at the door creates a foreseeable risk of severe injury or death. That reality does not disappear because the outcome was emotionally painful.

    There may eventually be legal analysis regarding whether other participants contributed to the escalation. That will be up to investigators and prosecutors — not internet activists.

    7. Final Thought

    We can mourn a loss and still be honest.

    This was not an execution.
    This was not a Gestapo moment.
    This was a rapidly evolving, high-risk confrontation in an environment already saturated with hostility toward law enforcement, involving a vehicle — one of the most lethal tools available in civilian space.

    The agent had seconds to decide whether his partner was about to be seriously injured or killed, and that was before he was struck by the vehicle. The law does not require perfection in those moments — only reasonableness.

    Tragedy does not automatically equal murder.

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    A study in leadership under similar cir stances. The first from a law enforcement professional having zero involvement in the incident of which she speaks. The second from a law enforcement professional whose city was recently roiled by an incident similar to what took place in Minneapolis this week.





    the Chicago Police Chief says something, at the beginning, that hasn't really been made a part of the conversation. He said if you use a vehicle to box in a law enforcement officer (as Renee Good was doing), it is reasonable to conclude you're being ambushed. That's why I asked the earlier question, how many other "ICE Watch" members were present.
    I love it! Philadelphia's REAL Police Chief tells the Philadelphia Sheriff to STFU


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    Episcopal clergy in New Hampshire preparing to die to protect people from DHS

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    ^^^ Trump sycophants and blood-garglers

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