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oh yeah?
you totally ignored my cite that BPS has a higher arrest rate than illegal immigrants
No you're not.
oh yeah?
you totally ignored my cite that BPS has a higher arrest rate than illegal immigrants
Overall, CBP’s arrest and misconduct rate is FIVE TIMES higher than other federal law enforcement agencies — and, in fact, if you look over the last decade, the arrest rate of CBP officers and Border Patrol agents (.5%) has been HIGHER than the arrest rate of undo ented immigrants in the United States (.4%).
Last edited by Winehole23; 02-10-2026 at 07:44 PM.
1) You'll need to define "arrest AND misconduct." Are we keeping records on the misconduct of illegal aliens, for comparison?
2) If you look over the last decade, we spent four years watching the borders be overrun with illegal aliens - not sure much arresting was going on. In fact, Minnesota apparently released almost 500 felony criminal illegal aliens, on who ICE had detainers.
3) I'd like to know what the raw number of CBP officers is, that were arrested.
If the link is in one of your previous posts, please repost so I don't have to hunt through 3 pages of cut and paste.
links are embedded to the sources, I encourage you to read
Lol yoni's parameters
backflips for adjusting the US racial mix
Thank you. I'm reading now.
Your first article is from 2022 - covering data from 2014 to 2018 so, not sure how that relevant. The sudden rise in arrests, from 2017 to 2018 could indicate the Trump administration was cracking down on the criminal element hired into the system by the Obama administration.
Your second link doesn't connect me to the url: http://ttps//docs.house.gov/meetings...-secret-police But, the words "how-trump-changed-ice-and-cbp-into-a-fascist-secret-police," could lead one to reasonably believe the content is biased.
the second link is to public information via a US agency
https://nij.ojp.gov
nice derail, btw
did you have any take on the 350 out of 362 cases where district courts ruled detentions were illegal?
there has never been such demand for Habeas Corpus in the USA hitherto afaik, and the DOJ's contempt for adverse rulings seems to be demonstrative.
that took me to what looks like the National Ins ute of Justice's home page. I couldn't find an article on that page discussing CBP vs. illegal alien arrest rates.
you're welcome
https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/J...0122-SD004.pdf
it was there all along, profe
What'd I derail? Your article was from the Obama and first year of the first Trump administration. It's irrelevant in a current conversation about CBP and alien criminality.
Where was that? In one of those two articles or in one of your other cut and paste posts?
Have I considered it?
Yes, a recent federal appeals court ruling supports the Trump administration's policy of detaining certain immigrants without bond hearings (which are hearings before an immigration judge to determine if someone can be released on bond while their deportation case proceeds).
On February 6, 2026, a divided 2-1 panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit (covering Texas, Louisiana, and Mississippi) upheld the administration's interpretation of immigration law. The court ruled that noncitizens who entered the U.S. without inspection (i.e., unlawfully) can be treated as "applicants for admission" under 8 U.S.C. § 1225(b)(2)(A), making them subject to mandatory detention without eligibility for bond hearings — regardless of how long they have lived in the United States.
This decision reversed lower district court rulings in two consolidated cases and marked the first time an appeals court has backed this aggressive policy, which the Trump administration implemented in 2025. It reverses nearly 30 years of prior practice under both Democratic and Republican administrations, where such individuals (especially those long-resident in the interior) were typically eligible for bond consideration under 8 U.S.C. § 1226(a).
It will probably end up with the co-equal branch of government known as the U. S. Supreme Court. But, for now, it's not unlawful to detain them.
"Trump is right, it's 96% of federal district courts who are wrong"
Again, reference pre-Trump administration data where Biden wasn't really enforcing immigration law but, more importantly, the article doesn't speak to the claim you made, Winehole: in the original post, you said, "...the arrest rate of CBP officers and Border Patrol agents (.5%) has been HIGHER than the arrest rate of undo ented immigrants in the United States (.4%)." The words HIGHER than were hyperlinked to an article I couldn't open. You shared another link to the Home Page of the NIJ and there was no such article. If this link pretend to speak to your original premise - it has nothing to do with the illegal alien arrest rate being lower than the CPB arrest rate. None-the-less, it's still from before the Trump administration.
Not derailing just pointing out your fail.
I notice you don't have better information
Debunking yours is quite enough.
I don't think you debunked anything, you just found the declared and implicit limitations of the information, as any careful reader would
your own implicit case to the contrary is entirely speculative, it's based on nothing
I didn't make the claim, you did. I merely pointed out your support for the claim was irrelevant. I don't have the time to chase down every erroneous thing you throw on here Winehole. I have a job and a life.
you didn't prove any errors
Other than your second article didn't speak to the comparison you claimed and the first article was representative of a previous incompetent administration. Other than that?
Also, you made the claims in the present tense.
I could take the statistics of that first article and make the claim that President Trump cleaned up the CBP in his first year in office.
Could you?
Don Lemon update: he's now represented by lawyer who was a Minnesota AUSA a few weeks ago
Career prosecutors switching sides wasn't something you saw until the US government started refusing to investigate government-involved homicides
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...goo-rcna258467A federal prosecutor who quit amid concerns over how the Trump administration was handling the investigation into Renee Nicole Good's killing is now representing journalist Don Lemon.
On Tuesday, Joseph H. Thompson entered a notice of appearance for Lemon, a former CNN anchor, in a case that accuses Lemon of violating the religious freedom of worshippers following his coverage of protesters who interrupted services at a church in St. Paul, Minnesota.
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