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I knew this would somehow turn into a "Pop sucks" thread.Blame Pop
Boy if pop goes to the all star game.
Thats really gonna piss you off aint it Sequ.
It would really piss you off if they won another ring under pop too.
STFU. Bring a take or go jack off to your bearded lady magazine.
I knew this would somehow turn into a "Pop sucks" thread.Blame Pop
Boy if pop goes to the all star game.
Thats really gonna piss you off aint it Sequ.
It would really piss you off if they won another ring under pop too.
Since they don't get to vote, it really doesn't matter. After the votes are counted, there are what 7 slots left? If they go with another center, 3 guards and 3 forwards... Does Manu make the cut of 3?
If Kobe sits out, they get 8 players.
SA is 35-10, but by reading alota Sequs post, youd think they are 23-22 or sumthing.
Hey, I am just throwing it out there. I gave you all some players to think about besides Manu. I think he is on the bubble. I don't understand how a coach could vote for a player because of flash when there are clearly objective statistical reasons to pick other players even if they aren't wearing black and silver.
Only problem with your circle jerkoff buddy Richardson?objective statistical reasons
He plays on a very bad bad team, so gets to score alot of points.
If Ginobili played on the freak Warriors hed average 25 a night.
Get a clue already.
Tpark,
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt because you've been determined stupid... why don't you click here.... http://www.nba.com/warriors/schedule/index.html
and come back and tell me that Richardson is not a ing allstar.
Run along dip .
Like in any human activity, the coaches use their personal feeling about the players, the input from collaborators, and the video scouting, in addition to the statistical analysis.
I can assure you that Manu ranks pretty high up among most assistants and scouts that could influence coaches in the NBA.
Since you brought some stats, let me ask you a question:
Do you think coaches are blinded by ppg? Do you really think they don't factor in efficiency and productivity when making a decision?
The dude is 3rd in the entire league in points per shot (1.51!!). This is ing increadible for a guard!! The only players above him are Shaq (1.57) and Amare (1.56). Among SGs, the only guys relatively close are Wade (1.43) and Maggette (1.42). Other representative players are Kobe (1.33), Allen (1.27), L. Hughes (1.23), TMac (1.21), Finley (1.16), J. Johnson (1.14), and J. Richarson (1.12).
Manu is top 15 in the league in productivity per minute. Measures of productivity take into account everything, including rebounds, assists, points, TOs, blocks, FG%, etc.
All Players
MyTendex/48min (min 20.0 min/gm)
Player Team Tend/48
1) garnett,kevin Min 41.48
2) duncan,tim San 36.87
3) james,lebron Cle 35.42
4) nowitzki,dirk Dal 34.97
5) o'neal,shaquille Mia 34.93
6) stoudemire,amare Pho 33.61
7) nash,steve Pho 33.53
8) marion,shawn Pho 32.15
9) webber,chris Sac 31.49
10) wade,dwyane Mia 30.58
11) o'neal,jermaine Ind 30.15
12) hughes,larry Was 30.03
13) pierce,paul Bos 29.57
14) ginobili,manu San 29.16
15) gasol,pau Mem 29.01
16) miller,brad Sac 28.99
17) bryant,kobe LAL 28.93
18) mcgrady,tracy Hou 28.87
19) gooden,drew Cle 28.85
20) brand,elton LAC 28.73
** Avg for Position = 19.59. Among SGs, he is top 3 in the league
Shooting Guards
MyTendex/48min (min 20.0 min/gm)
Player Team Tend/48
1) wade,dwyane Mia 30.58
2) hughes,larry Was 30.03
3) ginobili,manu San 29.16
4) bryant,kobe LAL 28.93
5) mcgrady,tracy Hou 28.87
6) richardson,jason GSW 24.59
7) allen,ray Sea 24.50
8) smith,josh Atl 24.07
9) maggette,corey LAC 23.59
10) miller,mike Mem 23.45
11) redd,michael Mil 21.34
12) finley,michael Dal 20.94
13) iguodala,andre Phi 20.78
14) johnson,joe Pho 20.58
15) wells,bonzi Mem 20.36
16) richardson,quent Pho 20.31
17) daniels,marquis Dal 20.22
18) peterson,morris Tor 19.91
19) crawford,jamal NYK 19.88
20) hamilton,richard Det 19.88
** Avg for Position = 18.28.
Another measure of how good a player makes other teammates better is the +/- points on/off the court. Manu ranks 6th in the Roland Rankings and is the best of the league (+16.8) in +/- points when he is on the court!
Rank Player Team On Court +/- Off Court +/- Roland Rating
1 Nowitzki DAL +10.5 -12.2 +22.7
2 Kirilenko UTA +10.9 -9.2 +20.1
3 Marbury NYK +0.6 -18.1 +18.8
4 Allen SEA +7.2 -7.0 +14.3
5 Duncan SAS +14.8 +0.5 +14.3
6 Ginobili SAS +16.8 +2.6 +14.2
7 Nash PHO +13.1 -0.7 +13.8
8 Jones LAL +8.3 -4.5 +12.8
9 Tinsley IND +3.6 -8.7 +12.2
10 Brand LAC +2.4 -9.4 +11.8
11 Garnett MIN +4.3 -7.2 +11.5
12 Battier MEM +8.0 -3.5 +11.5
13 Bibby SAC +6.6 -4.9 +11.4
14 Terry DAL +10.8 -0.5 +11.2
15 Kidd NJN +0.4 -10.5 +10.9
He is also second in the league in raw +/- points (+435) behind Tim Duncan.
I don't know if the coaches will pick him or not. The only thing I am trying to say is that you could make a strong statistical argument that he is one of the elite guards in the league.
P.S.: In addition, if you don't consider him one of the most exciting players to watch playing basketball, you have ice in your veins.
Correction.... for brains.P.S.: In addition, if you don't consider him one of the most exciting players to watch playing basketball, you have ice in your veins.
Manu will be in AllStar game....I will bet any amt of money.
Last edited by Jimcs50; 01-29-2005 at 01:12 AM.
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Holy , Rick just redefined the term can of whoop ass. That's a monumental one he just opened upside the heads of rascal and Sequ.
ok. I admit it: MANU IS GOOOOOD!!!
PS: WTG Rick
The stats prove it = Manu in far less minutes than most = better player.
West guards should be Kobe, Nash, Bibby, Allen, Manu = 2 points, 3 swing type men = perfect and exciting line-up. Bibby for season long consistancy has to go over Parker, but Parker will get this due down the line.
Rest of team = Amare, Duncan, Yao, Garnett, TMac (Guard/Forward), Dirk.
With those 11 throw in anyone (I would vote for Marion)
MadDoc
Richardson? WTF do you keep forgetting about Richardson?? Dude is killing it.
Right about that,Sequs will probaly trade all the players when the SPURS are 23-22 next year.SPURS need to fire POP.DUNCAN,PARKER,MANU are overrated.Dude with over 6000 post you need to get a life theirs more out there than the SPURS FORUM.Don't act like a kid and say STFU.
RVB is statistically one of the three best posters in the forum.
I completely agree with T_Park. SeguSpurs: are you sure about your nick? and Richardson in the ASG? is a joke.....
Last edited by Sire; 01-30-2005 at 03:09 PM.
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