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i wouldnt mind getting rice in the 2nd..... i hope we draft patrick willis or adam carriker with the 11th.... our d would be solid....
5 sacks, 3 forced fumbles and 7 pass deflections isnt bad for a guy that didnt get much pt
i wouldnt mind getting rice in the 2nd..... i hope we draft patrick willis or adam carriker with the 11th.... our d would be solid....
Not Okoye?
i wouldnt mind him either.... hes young but not a 3-4 DT.... regardless i wouldnt be upset if we picked him because hes only 19 and that would solidify that spot for years to come
Carriker fits the 49ers system better than Okoye.
Good signing...the Niners have been active so far. Definelty putting themselves in position to be a playoff team.
Champ Bailey is 29 years old and has played eight seasons in the NFL Nate Clements is 27 and has played in six NFL seasons. Both players played 16 games in each season. In that period, both players returned kicks and punts. Clements had two for touchdowns while Bailey had none
In his first six seasons, Champ Bailey had 21 interceptions, 410 total tackles, 1 sack, 71 passes defended, 4 forced fumbles, four recovered, and 1 defensive touchdown.
In the first six seasons of his career, Nate Clements has had 23 interceptions, 432 total tackles, 1.5 sacks, 61 passes defended, 13 fumbles forced, 4 recovered, and 5 defensive touchdowns.
for you folks calling him a "2nd rate CB".... especially you BroncHOES fans
How many ProBowls has Clements been to?
Tony Romo went to the Pro Bowl last year, and Tom Brady didn't. Obviously Romo is a better QB than Brady.
Tony Romo went to the Pro Bowl last year, and Tom Brady didn't. Obviously Romo is a better QB than Brady.
SCOTT LOST!
If you are trying to compare Champ Bailey to Clements you are freaking crazy. Pull up Champs stats for the last two seasons. He's light years ahead of the best Clements could ever hope to be.
Well, maybe if Romo and Brady were in the same Conference this argument would be valid. But Romo earned it in a watered down NFC.Tony Romo went to the Pro Bowl last year, and Tom Brady didn't. Obviously Romo is a better QB than Brady.
im not comparing them.... i know champ is better..... but clements isnt a "2nd rate cb"..... all im proving to you guys......
Nate Clements got lucky that he was a free agent this offseason. There wasn't one other decent corner on the market.
Decent corners are rarely ever on the market, as evidenced by the Pats franchising Samuel.
If people think he is a second rate cb they dont know much about football. Nobody knows how good this guy is because he has been stuck in Buffalo, a place that rarely gets any games aired
You act like you have seen any more of his games than the rest of us.
How many ProBowls has Tom Brady been to? My guess is more than zero (like some CBs who are now the highest paid in history).Tony Romo went to the Pro Bowl last year, and Tom Brady didn't. Obviously Romo is a better QB than Brady.
NFL season pass+Lee Evans being one of my favorite players= yea Ive probably seen way more Buffalo Bills games than most people, Rams games too
Clements is good, but not largest CB contract in NFL history good.
Last edited by scott; 03-04-2007 at 07:34 PM.
That was probably the best take so far
From 49ersnews.com
Here is the breakdown between Champ Bailey and Nate Clements’ careers thus far:
Champ Bailey is 29 years old and has played eight seasons in the NFL Nate Clements is 27 and has played in six NFL seasons. Both players played 16 games in each season. In that period, both players returned kicks and punts. Clements had two for touchdowns while Bailey had none
In his first six seasons, Champ Bailey had 21 interceptions, 410 total tackles, 1 sack, 71 passes defended, 4 forced fumbles, four recovered, and 1 defensive touchdown.
In the first six seasons of his career, Nate Clements has had 23 interceptions, 432 total tackles, 1.5 sacks, 61 passes defended, 13 fumbles forced, 4 recovered, and 5 defensive touchdowns.
Clements leads him in all but two of these categories, and one is a tie
In Anthony Henry's first six seasons of his career, he has 22 interceptions, 63 passes defended, and 2 defensive touchdowns.
I'm not about to put Anthony Henry in the same category as Bailey or Clements though. The moral of the story: stats don't always tell the story.
Niether do interceptions, look at Chris McCallisters ints, not very high, which means no one throws at him. Newman too, ints dont always mean that the corner is great
You can't look at stats when comparing players to Champ. If Bailey had as many balls thrown his way as Clements or any other CB he would have had 15+ INT's last year. The QB's DON'T throw at him. And when they do, they are apologizing after the game just like Carson Palmer and Matt Leinart.
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