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    You're a moron. Your pathetic team is nothing like the ing Raiders. You're guys are cheap-shot artists, not bad boys. Raja, he's a bad boy. Amare, he's a bad boy. You're team is chalked full of pussies. You see how Horry walked away as soon as he did that, as to not stay around and deal with any of the many Suns who could stomp his ass into the ground? Bowen is a ing troll, who pulls this all of the time, trying to hurt people, make them land funny; Ginoseli, is a little flopping coward. And Tony Parker? Nash was bleeding all over the place, wondering if your French flopper was OK. How do you find the stones to root for a team like that? They are Le .

    So we are the dirty, cheap, thugs, and pussies. But after the nash flop, you wanted horry to get pounded into the ground? That's not basketball, and frankly, none of the suns success can be attributed to basketball, its all from extreme flopping and whining to the refs.

    I don't know if you watched game 4 or not, but I have never seen a team get more cheap, pussy calls as the suns did, it was painfully obvious that the refs were responding favorably to all the suns complaining. and the suns took advantage, falling down as much as possible, and lurching at the hoop for calls.
    meanwhile the spurs continued to play actual basketball, at least until the 12-1 run, even Horry's foul at the end was just a hard BASKETBALL foul, he got in nash's way, and stood strong, and nash went down like he'd been hit by an airplane, it topped anything I've seen from Ginobili or Divac or anyone. and that was a microcosm of suns basketball, they can't man up, so they go down hard, make a big fuss, put on a big show.

    no, suns fan, it is the suns who are the pussies, the spurs are just playing playoff basketball. and if you happen to get past the Spurs, it is only going to get worse for you, Utah and Detroit are just as physical, if not more.

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    I do believe it is the vernacular with which the gentleman is taking issue. I also believe the correct word is "verbiage," bUt ... WuT Doo eyE no ... oH NO i Am ChOKin oN A cHiKiN LeG!!! caWl 9-1-1!! tELL eM its tH LaSt trAIloR On TH LeFT!!
    Hilarious!

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    Robert Horry got suspended for 2 games for his HARD (not cheap, not dirty) foul on Steve Nash. He received a flagrant 2 and was ejected from the game.

    Bruce Bowen cleared some room with his leg when Nash was all over him. He was called for a foul and later told Nash it was NOT intentional.

    Bruce Bowen's weird clip of Amare's foot was reviewed by the league. While it looked strange, no one was hurt and it was not dirty.

    Manu Ginobili went up for a ing layup and Amare Stoudamire was in the way. He got kneed in the nuts. BFD, it wasn't a foul on Manu and it wasn't dirty.

    ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !! Spurs fans, (and you know who you are) if Robert Horry's late game foul was such a traumatic shot to the image of your team and you feel embarassed then just go the away. In fact, go root for the Suns. Do away with your shirts, flags, hats etc. Delete your Spurs desktop images and so forth.

    I'm so sick of hearing about this bull . Once and for all, the Spurs don't control the league office. This is our team and we have Nothing to be embarassed about. Every player in the league knows the rules about leaving the bench. I have no apologies for anyone. I thought Nash played the foul up along with taking the shot.

    If it makes you feel any better, the Spurs were picked by alot of people to win it all. So if, we are fortunate to get another Championship, I won't be shedding a tear about Phoenix's bad breaks or placing an asterisk by the 2007 trophy. I got no sympathy for the Suns.

    We were victims of this mess too. I don't think anyone should have been suspended but I'm not going to cry like a little girl and I'm certainly not going to call a radio station or post an e-mail message on a Suns board making some whiny "I feel your pain" and "I'm ashamed" thread.

    that. GO SPURS !!
    I'd be afraid to drive the lane if I'm Tony Parker and Pat Burke is in there. You just might see what a hard foul looks like (better not call it "dirty" buddy!)

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    burke will administer a hard foul to the space that tp just left.

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    Formula:

    1. Tell the media that the opposing team is dirty to get more calls, regardless of whether there's any evidence of that. This is the first step in creating all the evidence you'll ever need.

    2. Complain when the refs call fouls on you, or when they don't call enough on the other team.
    i. Continue to push your advantage, no matter how much it grows

    3. Throw your hands up in a demonstrative way at every whistle or perceived non-call, making a "see-I-told-you-this-would-happen" face for the cameras.

    4. When there is any bleeding at any point in any game, point to that as evidence of your original premise, even if the contact was initiated by your own player. Make sure to point out that it was the only reason you lost the game, even if they allow your player on the floor to score five points while blood pours from his face.

    5. When any body contact takes place that can be construed to be inappropriate, even when initiated by your own player, make sure the player knows to fall to the floor and roll into a fetal position, stand up and make the "I-told-you" face. Send a tape to the league and begin the media campaign to have that player suspended. It helps to complain publicly about all contact prior to this so that you can site your own previous allegations as evidence. Nobody will notice.

    6. If, praise Jesus, a hard foul actually take place, make sure to have your entire team, coaches and players, suddenly react as if it was completely unexpected, and be sure to attack said player like soccer fans. If your players are disciplined by the league, refer to the "He started it" defense.

    7. Make sure to inflame your fanbase as much as possible. Bomb threats, thrown objects, arson and food poisoning can be used in your favor with no legal repercussions.
    i. If possible, set up interviews with your players where they take the high road and proclaim bewilderment at how this situation could have arisen. This plays up the martyr angle and really lathers up the fan base.

    8. If it looks like you are going to lose, make sure to take someone out. It's perfectly justified. You've got a laundry list of previous accusations. That's evidence, baby!

    9. If nothing else, you now have an excuse to lose and the whole world will hate your opponent as they advance as far as they can. If anyone still interviews you, blame the war in Iraq.

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    Pat Burke?

    The dude who makes Jack Haley look like an all world player?

    Frightening....

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    Flop that !!! And stay the down !




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    9. If nothing else, you now have an excuse to lose and the whole world will hate your opponent as they advance as far as they can. If anyone still interviews you, blame the war in Iraq.


    or the President

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    remember u r promoting hard, physical play when Spurs play next round against Utah and then Detroit .... dont dare complain when Parker / Ginobli / Duncan get manhandled by Williams, Chauncey, Rasheed & Co. Basketball is a game of skill and should be played that way .....
    Are you forgetting Denver ? That was a physical series. No one complained then either. The Suns need to adjust and deal with it, not us.

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    I'd be afraid to drive the lane if I'm Tony Parker and Pat Burke is in there. You just might see what a hard foul looks like (better not call it "dirty" buddy!)
    You'd be afraid to drive the lane because you are a sniveling pussy. How many Jazz players have spent this much time crying over a flagrant foul? They've received about three times as many in two games.

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    Pat Burke?

    The dude who makes Jack Haley look like an all world player?

    Frightening....
    Nash is his boy and he was pretty upset to see Horry take him down like that. Don't underestimate the value of an angry Irish-born player getting his first time in this series.

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    'all darkies and irishmen are violent.' just go.

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    Nash is his boy and he was pretty upset to see Horry take him down like that. Don't underestimate the value of an angry Irish-born player getting his first time in this series.
    Awwww. Snuggles wantsum wevenge. How Shweeeet.

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    The suns made more FT's than the Spurs attempted and they keep ing about what's fair. What a joke.

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    The suns made more FT's than the Spurs attempted and they keep ing about what's fair. What a joke.
    In one game... Spurs made more than Suns attempted in Game 3... does that even it out?

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    You'd be afraid to drive the lane because you are a sniveling pussy. How many Jazz players have spent this much time crying over a flagrant foul? They've received about three times as many in two games.
    Jazz don't ever stop being physical or delivering hard fouls anyways. I think the Jazz would be angrier if AK and Boozer were suspended while the series was tied.

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    'all darkies and irishmen are violent.' just go.
    that's what I said? I mentioned "Darkies"?

    The Irish don't have a reputation for getting drunk and fighting? That's news to me.

    I guess all those people who call the Spurs "dirty" are just stereotyping.

    Burke is the only Irish-born player in the NBA. And he has a mean streak.

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    In one game... Spurs made more than Suns attempted in Game 3... does that even it out?
    Are FTA supposed to always even out?

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    that's what I said? I mentioned "Darkies"?

    The Irish don't have a reputation for getting drunk and fighting.

    Burke is the only Irish-born player in the NBA. And he has a mean streak.

    not surprising that was lost on you.

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    burke will administer a hard foul to the space that tp just left.

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    Nash is his boy and he was pretty upset to see Horry take him down like that. Don't underestimate the value of an angry Irish-born player getting his first time in this series.
    Did he put a bandage on his nose, and write 13 on his shoes in memory?

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    Jazz don't ever stop being physical or delivering hard fouls anyways. I think the Jazz would be angrier if AK and Boozer were suspended while the series was tied.
    The Jazz aren't the ones delivering hard fouls, they are getting way more than the Suns have seen all year and they aren't screeching like teenage girls about it.

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    Are FTA supposed to always even out?
    No, they aren't... it depends on the factors of the game: How aggressive one team is, who is officiating, changes in the offense/defense, subs utions, etc.

    That's why I don't get what your boy was trying to say by claiming the Suns made more FT in Game 4 than the Spurs attempted. Does this mean that obviously the Suns are getting preferential treatment? It was ok that the Spurs made more than the Suns attempted in Game 3 because the Spurs received that benefit, I guess.

    I was just calling him out for using a selective statistic and somehow relating it to the suspensions.

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    Did he put a bandage on his nose, and write 13 on his shoes in memory?
    Nash is dead? Wow. Okay, Now I understand why the Suns want revenge. If only the Spurs knew what it was like to have their second leading scorer taken out of the series on a hard foul like that, they'd know why they have to get revenge and try to injure someone back.

    NASH RIP. YOU WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN.

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    The Jazz aren't the ones delivering hard fouls, they are getting way more than the Suns have seen all year and they aren't screeching like teenage girls about it.
    Are you kidding? They deliver subtle, yet hard fouls all game. Just because they aren't cheap or dirty, doesn't mean they are hard.

    And Suns/their fans are going to be more on edge because they feel slighted by these suspensions... that's just the nature of where the series has progressed.

    Spurs fans in general did not stop btiching about the officiating in Game 4 on this board, but that doesn't make them whiners?

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