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Yeah and watch what happens to business when ownership starts squandering le opportunities stupidly...
Believe me...that's bad for business.
Hey they made their run but they were too far out of it...
They busted their butts to win that Seattle game but Ray Allen said no. Next night Portland and Pryzbilla did to them what they did to us...after that it was over.
Look at what they are doing....JYD playing 35 mins a game...Tim Thomas is not going to play any more this season...Malik plays but not very much in the 4th quarters....
Why in the wouldn't they be tanking it now?
Their need is a tough rebounding center....they didn't have one all season and that was their problem.
Yeah and watch what happens to business when ownership starts squandering le opportunities stupidly...
Believe me...that's bad for business.
Their frontline starters were ranking #6 and around #20 for rebounds per game. Only the Pistons and Rockets could claim to have two top 20 rebounders on the same team as well. There are only 5 other centers who average more rebounds than Nazr did as a Knick.Their need is a tough rebounding center....they didn't have one all season and that was their problem.
They were trying to get Rasho for KThomas, how exactly was that going to net them more rebounds?
A while ago Ludden wrote in an article that Pop wanted Howard but was overuled. If that's true put a gun to the head of whoever overuled and squeeze.
As I said, I never read that -- but it seems Pop had less faith in cap clearing than we were led to believe.A while ago Ludden wrote in an article that Pop wanted Howard but was overuled.
The Spurs FO is perfectly willing to trade off the guaranteed salaries of low first round picks to richer (and stupider) teams like the Knicks. What do you suppose the Knicks will do with two low first round players with guaranteed contracts?
Traditionally, low first-rounders don't make much of a splash in the league if they make it at all. The Spurs real forte is picking up second round steals that have been overlooked or play in Europe and fitting them into the system at a price a small team market can afford.
Maybe Isaiah has purchased the Popiel's guaranteed, can't-lose Kevin Pritchard talent system.
Package them in with the next trade or two.What do you suppose the Knicks will do with two low first round players with guaranteed contracts?
I left out that they needed shotblocking too....
Those were Isiah's words not mine...he's the one that said he didn't have a Center, even before he traded Nazr...I guess he knew what he was talking about...kinda like he knew he didn't have a PG with Charlie Ward.
And as for the Rasho thing...they wanted Malik and Rasho...and the draft picks...and they had no intention of signing Nazr to a long term deal...
BTW, I'd take Rasho over Kurt Thomas any day of the week...Kurt is another guy that just puts up meaningless numbers...and doesnt' play D if he doesn't get to shoot.
Squandering le opportunities stupidly? I guess you mean not protecting Tim Duncan's ankle better--because any le hopes we have depend on TD, not Malik or Nasr. We're dog meat if TD can't play up to snuff or if he reinjures the ankle, God forbid!
Anyone who thinks we could win the NBA championship without TD if we only could reverse the Malik-NASR trade is smoking some really good .
Conversely, I don't think Malik would make THE difference on our tean's chances if TD and the rest of the team play well. The 10-12 player on the bench seldom does.
http://www.nba.com/games/20030521/DALSAS/boxscore.htmlSquandering le opportunities stupidly? I guess you mean not protecting Tim Duncan's ankle better--because any le hopes we have depend on TD, not Malik or Nasr. We're dog meat if TD can't play up to snuff or if he reinjures the ankle, God forbid!
Anyone who thinks we could win the NBA championship without TD if we only could reverse the Malik-NASR trade is smoking some really good .
Conversely, I don't think Malik would make THE difference on our tean's chances if TD and the rest of the team play well. The 10-12 player on the bench seldom does.
Exactly: Everyone is looking for the last sucker in line to dump off those picks with their guaranteed contracts. But the line of suckers gets shorter after Isaiah, doesn't it?
But that doesn't explain the rebounding at all.I left out that they needed shotblocking too....
hey, single game box scores don't count. I could pick out several single games where Malik sucked for the Knicks while getting a lot more playing time to build a better average. But someone already posted the ulative totals that show there isn't much to choose between them-- other than we all like Malik as a person a lot better than the new guy.
Malik Rose NYK
G GS MPG FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OFF DEF TOT APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
18 2 23.0 50-121 .413 1-5 .200 56-69 .812 1.40 3.40 4.80 .6 .56 .33 1.83 3.40 8.7
Per 48 Minutes
Points Reb. Blocks
18.2 10.1 0.695
Nazr Mohammed SAS
G GS MPG FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OFF DEF TOT APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
16 0 14.5 30-82 .366 0-0 .000 22-40 .550 2.60 2.00 4.60 .4 .25 1.00 1.44 2.70 5.1
Per 48 Minutes
Points Reb. Blocks
16.97 15.3 3.3
That was a playoff game where we were down 0-1 on our own home court...
Don't tell me Rasho will do that...because that would be Rasho's career high...
And I can post some more boxscores from last season when Duncan was injured where Malik was putting up better numbers than any big currently on our team...we even beat a couple of bad teams on the road...ahh those were the days.
Watch many Spurs games lately?
And IIRC you were the guy telling me that Marks couldn't get 8 rebounds in 13 minutes or something like that...do I need to find that link?
So what exactly does it say if the Knicks players are saying how Malik is teaching them how to compete but then they go out and lay an egg every night?Then you haven't been listening to what his teamates are saying...
The Knicks are tanking...how many minutes did Malik even play in the 4th quarter tonight? I bet not many.
I've been surprised at Malik's stats since going to NY. Honestly I expected him to get back to when he was really productive with having a lot of minutes. But he's getting 25 minutes a night and still not doing much with it.
Nice attempt at deflection we're talking about the Knicks and their rebounding.Watch many Spurs games lately?
Do you want the link where you saidf the Knicks are going to the finals? That Maliks rebounding was going to go way up?
Yeah...and their "rebounding" is now on our bench sucking...
You are the stupid one because you think Isiah thought he was going to get the C he needs from the Spurs...I want you to show me where he said that....
Yes I would like those links...and then I'd like you to post Malik and Nazr's current stats...while you're at it. I believe you'll find those quotes where I said Nazr's would go down...and I think I was also talking PPG as well.Do you want the link where you saidf the Knicks are going to the finals? That Maliks rebounding was going to go way up?
Please...dig them up...it'll save me the effort.
He's not?So what exactly does it say if the Knicks players are saying how Malik is teaching them how to compete but then they go out and lay an egg every night?
I've been surprised at Malik's stats since going to NY. Honestly I expected him to get back to when he was really productive with having a lot of minutes. But he's getting 25 minutes a night and still not doing much with it.
He's had games of 15 and 11
15 and 9
18 and 9
That's in the past week and a half...
Off the bench....
Nah that's garbage compared to what we're getting lately...
Only because you are trying to change the subject.Yeah...and their "rebounding" is now on our bench sucking...It's common knowledge he also tried to get Rasho for KThomas at the time of the Rose trade. Are you denying this?You are the stupid one because you think Isiah thought he was going to get the C he needs from the Spurs...I want you to show me where he said that....
When was that one?15 and 9
I'd try and get Rasho for Kurt Thomas too...and if I was the Spurs I wouldn't want to do it...what's your point?
How does that prove he thinks Rasho is the C he needs? That just proves he thinks Rasho can anchor a D better than Thomas(he's right) and he can do it without whining about not getting any shots...
How does it not?How does that prove he thinks Rasho is the C he needs?
LMAO...ok so 8-8 or something like that...Which is still better than anything Nazr has given us lately.
Meanwhile...still waiting on that link
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