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The per 48 minutes stat is worthless.
But it's pretty much a wash according to those stats.
Malik Rose NYK
G GS MPG FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OFF DEF TOT APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
18 2 23.0 50-121 .413 1-5 .200 56-69 .812 1.40 3.40 4.80 .6 .56 .33 1.83 3.40 8.7
Per 48 Minutes
Points Reb. Blocks
18.2 10.1 0.695
Nazr Mohammed SAS
G GS MPG FGM-A FG% 3PM-A 3P% FTM-A FT% OFF DEF TOT APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
16 0 14.5 30-82 .366 0-0 .000 22-40 .550 2.60 2.00 4.60 .4 .25 1.00 1.44 2.70 5.1
Per 48 Minutes
Points Reb. Blocks
16.97 15.3 3.3
The per 48 minutes stat is worthless.
But it's pretty much a wash according to those stats.
Both of them suck. Let's move on
NBA List of Top 20 Per 48 Min. Rebounds
2004-05 Regular Season Rebounds Per 48 Minutes
Player G REB RP48
1. Reggie Evans (Seattle SuperSonics) 71 669 19.1
2. Dan Gadzuric (Milwaukee Bucks) 73 579 17.8
3. Kevin Garnett (Minnesota Timberwolves) 75 1,033 17.2
4. Dikembe Mutombo (Houston Rockets) 74 387 16.9
5. Tyson Chandler (Chicago Bulls) 73 701 16.7
6. Tim Duncan (San Antonio Spurs) 62 705 16.0
7. Ben Wallace (Detroit Pistons) 66 800 15.9
8. Joel Przybilla (Portland Trail Blazers) 69 531 15.8
9. Marcus Camby (Denver Nuggets) 61 612 15.6
10. Troy Murphy (Golden State Warriors) 63 690 15.4
11. Dwight Howard (Orlando Magic) 75 756 15.0
12. Shaquille O'Neal (Miami Heat) 70 740 14.8
13. Emeka Okafor (Charlotte Bobcats) 66 709 14.5
13. Drew Gooden (Cleveland Cavaliers) 74 687 14.5
15. Samuel Dalembert (Philadelphia 76ers) 64 477 14.4
16. Nazr Mohammed (San Antonio Spurs) 70 513 14.1
17. Shawn Marion (Phoenix Suns) 73 835 14.0
18. Kurt Thomas (New York Knicks) 72 750 13.9
19. Alan Henderson (Dallas Mavericks) 72 327 13.8
19. Chris Andersen (New Orleans Hornets) 67 410 13.8
NBA List of Top 20 Per 48 Min. Points
2004-05 Regular Season Points Per 48 Minutes
Player G MIN PTS PP48
1. Allen Iverson (Philadelphia 76ers) 68 2,886 2,082 34.6
2. Amare Stoudemire (Phoenix Suns) 72 2,612 1,849 34.0
3. Dirk Nowitzki (Dallas Mavericks) 72 2,815 1,897 32.3
4. Shaquille O'Neal (Miami Heat) 70 2,407 1,611 32.1
5. Kobe Bryant (Los Angeles Lakers) 60 2,467 1,647 32.0
6. Vince Carter (New Jersey Nets) 71 2,589 1,674 31.0
7. LeBron James (Cleveland Cavaliers) 72 3,015 1,904 30.3
7. Dwyane Wade (Miami Heat) 71 2,757 1,741 30.3
9. Gilbert Arenas (Washington Wizards) 72 2,951 1,858 30.2
10. Tracy McGrady (Houston Rockets) 73 2,986 1,860 29.9
11. Ben Gordon (Chicago Bulls) 74 1,795 1,114 29.8
12. Tim Duncan (San Antonio Spurs) 62 2,109 1,294 29.5
13. Ray Allen (Seattle SuperSonics) 71 2,783 1,681 29.0
14. Michael Redd (Milwaukee Bucks) 70 2,679 1,609 28.8
14. Corey Maggette (Los Angeles Clippers) 65 2,400 1,440 28.8
16. Paul Pierce (Boston Celtics) 75 2,712 1,621 28.7
17. Yao Ming (Houston Rockets) 74 2,284 1,357 28.5
18. Kevin Garnett (Minnesota Timberwolves) 75 2,879 1,671 27.9
19. Carmelo Anthony (Denver Nuggets) 67 2,326 1,347 27.8
20. Jason Richardson (Golden State Warriors) 65 2,491 1,427 27.5
You should stay away from per 48 mins stats...they can lead you to concluding that Nazr doesn't suck ass...and that would be unfortunate.
NBA List of Top 20 Per 48 Min. Blocks
2004-05 Regular Season Blocks Per 48 Minutes
Player G BLK BP48
1. Steven Hunter (Phoenix Suns) 68 94 4.83
2. Marcus Camby (Denver Nuggets) 61 180 4.60
3. Adonal Foyle (Golden State Warriors) 71 138 4.41
4. Joel Przybilla (Portland Trail Blazers) 69 136 4.05
5. Jerome James (Seattle SuperSonics) 72 97 3.86
6. Dikembe Mutombo (Houston Rockets) 74 88 3.83
7. Tim Duncan (San Antonio Spurs) 62 166 3.78
8. Shawn Bradley (Dallas Mavericks) 71 59 3.45
9. Josh Smith (Atlanta Hawks) 66 125 3.44
10. Chris Andersen (New Orleans Hornets) 67 100 3.36
11. Shaquille O'Neal (Miami Heat) 70 168 3.35
12. Samuel Dalembert (Philadelphia 76ers) 64 107 3.23
13. Ben Wallace (Detroit Pistons) 66 161 3.21
14. Rasho Nesterovic (San Antonio Spurs) 69 116 3.15
15. Zydrunas Ilgauskas (Cleveland Cavaliers) 73 158 3.08
16. Dan Gadzuric (Milwaukee Bucks) 73 98 3.01
17. Yao Ming (Houston Rockets) 74 142 2.98
18. Tyson Chandler (Chicago Bulls) 73 122 2.91
19. Chris Mihm (Los Angeles Lakers) 71 106 2.88
20. Brendan Haywood (Washington Wizards) 64 104 2.85
Just food for thought. Draw your own conclusions.
It's not a wash anyway...Malik's team has quit, their season is over...Nazr's hasn't...Nazr just sucks.
Minutes played is the most underrated stat in the NBA.
So you're saying Malik quit?
No, I am saying Malik's team has quit...I don't think Malik has quit.
I never saw anything from Malik to indicate he was a quitter, did you?
I am pretty sure Malik is more miserable now than at any point in his entire career...
Unlike Nazr who seemed to be quite happy playing for the Knicks and sucking...
Okay, I haven't posted any opinions up to this point but I did want to relay current production based on the opportunity given to each player.
I have not been pleased with Nazr's +/- when he's in there. Just by feel, it seems the Spurs lose the point margin differential advantage when Nazr is on the floor. Although Nazr's production is fairly good in points, rebounds and blocks, he misses assignments and is slow to help. It will take time for the Spurs' defensive system to become 2nd nature to Nazr, but then again...Pop said as much when they made the trade.
No I didn't see anything to indicate Malik quit but I'm not the one saying Malik's stats are no better than Nazr's simply because his team's quit. I've watched parts of 5 games since Malik was trade, including when they were still not eliinated and Malik was not a difference maker.
Nazr didn't suck for the Knicks until the got hurt, plus coaching change. I do wonder where the Nazr of Nov/Dec went.
Then you haven't been listening to what his teamates are saying...
The Knicks are tanking...how many minutes did Malik even play in the 4th quarter tonight? I bet not many.
Do you think we'd be better off right now...this season...with Malik instead of Nazr?
Pop also said the trade was for financial reasons BTW...which is why the debate over which one is better should long since be over....
And don't forget the two #1 picks we gave up for Nazr...low rounders? Maybe...but look at what RC has done in the low rounds....and are you certain he wanted to trade Malik for Nazr, I mean since Pop has admitted the trade was for financial reasons.
I heard them talk the talk. How Malik was showing them what it takes to be a contender. I think that was right about the time thy went on a 7-8 or so game losing streak.
Don't know. Didn't watch tonights game. Knicks will be trying to unload Malik this summer I'll bet. God knows what bonehead deal Isiah will pull off to do it if he can.
The trade effects won't be known for a year or two, as we've discussed before.
It was a money deal for next year and beyond, with a tertiary need for extra size in the post for the playoffs.
Do I think the Sprs would be better wih Malik instead of Nazr? Marginally maybe. Not enough to make a difference le-wise.
I'm glad the Spurs unloaded his contract and hope/expect that will pay off this summer or next year by trade deadline time with Nazr's expiring contract.
I disagree....if we lose a series because we don't have HCA...then I think the argument could easily be made that the effects of the trade were felt this season...
Are you guys honestly saying that Malik would suck as bad as Nazr filling in for Duncan right now? It just isn't true. We are 2 games out of the 1 seed and Phoenix might want to rest their starters at some point too...and their schedule is not that easy...
The cost of this trade could be HCA throughout the playoffs...it could be HCA vs the Heat...out of all the teams we are likly to face in the playoffs the Heat are the team I think HCA could make the most difference...
if we cant beat teams on the road, you dont deserve to be champions period.
We beat teams on the road in 99 and 03.
Do it the right way, win on the road.
Do it the right way? On the road?
You aren't the worst poster, but you are the worst spin artist of all time.
It would have led to an easier road through the Playoffs, but when this trade happened nobody knew Duncan would be out.
With TD and Devin down and a worn down Manu I don't see any way the Spurs could beat out the Suns for the top seed in the West. If the Spurs get the two seed that's about as good as they could do with or without Malik.
Now if the Spurs totally collapse and Dallas beats them out for the SW conference le, then you could make a case where having Malik might have gotten a victory or two to hold off Dallas.
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