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It looks like you are my Lindsey Hunter for the moment.
Must improve my English... !
It looks like you are my Lindsey Hunter for the moment.
Must improve my English... !
i don't know what you are trying to prove, sendman. a paraphrased quote of coach pop from theus isnt substantial evidence. nobody here is going to start a "fire pop" movement , even if beno averages 10 assists a game and 50% shooting. beno did have some opportunities here, maybe not enough, but the ones he was given, he wasted- first by not putting the effort on D, then by losing confidence in his shot. that, in addition to his interview remarks, nailed his coffin here. but anyways, you should be happy he got a chance to go somewhere else and start over. when the spurs traded scola i was a little disappointed because i thought he'd fit in here more than bonner (with the benefit of having manu and fab with him), but immediately i realized the spurs did him a favor in that he'd have more opportunity and less pressure in houston (and less passes too, but hey you cant ask for everything!) the most important quote, that i havent heard you mention, is the one where beno thanks pop for letting him go. if only everyone else (haters and homers) could do the same (for both beno, and scola).
that's true. Pop might be a pain in the ass for the players because of the way He sees Basketball and how hard He wants players to practice and play, but you can't say He's not a good man.Not at all.
Oh my god! This thing is going in circles.
Again:
I never, never, NEVER, complained about Udrih being fired. I have nothing but respect for Pop. I would be stupid to think otherwise. His record speaks for himself. If you find my post that says different, show it to me and I'll apologize to whoever you want. I just stated that Beno is solid NBA player. Nothing less and nothing more.
I complained about unfair treatment and lies written about Beno that were not even basketball related. I pointed out those individuals. So what's you damage?
Beno is a talented player regardless of how people percieve in here. The approach I take is that it wasn't meant for it to work out in San Antonio. His style of play doesn't suit the spurs style of play.
I remember once telling a friend of mine that as great of player as Steve Nash is that he could never play in the spurs system due to being a terrible defender and more of a run and gun offensive type of player. I feel Beno is the same way and before everybody jumps on me I'm not saying Beno is Steve Nash but he is that type of PG. He needs to be in a system where its not defensive oriented but a free wheeling type of offense to really thrive in where he can screw up and doesn't have any pressure. In the end that style is not suitable for the spurs.
I'm constantly amazed when I occasionlly look in on this and other threads that people can continue to find new and exciting ways to say: "I didn't like that guy" or "gee, we were stupid for letting him go" and keep these threads running ad infinitem.
What we need is a composite "Futile ing About Former Spurs Players" thread where people who really care about these guys, pro and con, can post to their heart's content.
maybe there is something lost in (mental) translation, but like i asked before it wasnt clear to me what you were looking for with your posts.
there are plenty of people here who come to talk , and if you try and reason with them it only gets worse. when people here judge scola (positive or negative) based on 1, 2, even 20 games, and use that to determine whether he is a good player or not, i just laugh. does it mean something? of course. but it doesnt mean enough to make a final conclusion. the same is true for beno. he is still young, still hasnt played a lot of games, and you shouldnt let frivolous comments on a different team's message board get to you. the only thing that is true about beno's nba career is that he was a member of the champion spurs but was unable to stick there. he is making a new start in sacramento where he has shown more than he showed in san antonio. everything else is just opinions and bull . let beno's game just speak for itself, trust me, its best for everyone that way.
You started with me because I mentioned that I'm glad he's somebody else's problem, when I probably have more posts defending his talent and basketball ability than you have in total on this board.
I'm waiting for my apology.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...rih/index.html
Point pleasant
Udrih's emergence at PG creates options for Kings
-Ian Thomsen, SI.com
As proof that no NBA team (short of the Minnesota Timberwolves) is far removed from playoff contention, we offer the Sacramento Kings. They climbed a few steps simply by lifting Beno Udrih from waivers last month.
It became one of those Rubik's Cube moves that brings the entire puzzle into focus. Not only did Udrih's arrival provide the Kings with a true point guard, but his ascension to the starting lineup also will make it easier for them to live without Mike Bibby should they decide to move his $13.5 million salary in a midseason trade (once Sacramento's longtime floor leader has proved he's healthy upon returning from October surgery on his left thumb). In the meantime, the whole team is running more efficiently under Udrih's guidance; through Tuesday, the Kings (10-14) had gone a respectable (9-9) with him in the lineup.
Of course, it helps that Ron Artest has returned after his season-opening seven-game suspension. The point is that Artest seems more likely to excel with a distributor like Udrih than with a shooter like Bibby. While rivals assume that Artest and Bibby have no future together, co-owner Joe Maloof insists he hasn't given up yet.
"I want to see how we do if we can get Mike back,'' Maloof said.
So the Kings haven't decided that Bibby must go?
"No, no, I haven't," Maloof said. "It's like [team president] Geoff [Petrie] says: We could still have Beno and Bibby out there together because Bibby is such a good shooter. With small ball, you need players who can shoot threes. The one thing I've learned is that you can have the quickest point guard, but to have a point guard who can shoot threes -- that's everything.''
Which is another gift from Udrih, who is converting a reasonable 36.7 percent from beyond the arc. Even more promising is that he shot 40.8 percent from the three-point line in 80 games as a rookie with San Antonio in 2004-05 when his confidence was high, and who's to say he can't replicate or outdo that rate as he grows comfortable in Sacramento? Overall, Udrih is posting career highs of 13.9 points and 4.7 assists in 35.0 minutes with Sacramento.
Over the previous two years, Udrih lost the trust of Spurs coach Gregg Popovich, who late in the preseason agreed to create a new opportunity for the 6-foot-3 point guard by trading him to Minnesota for a protected second-round pick.
"There are no bad feelings,'' Udrih said of his three years with the Spurs, who won two championships while he watched mainly from the bench. "The Spurs [were] in a tough situation because they [had] two young point guards with a lot of talent. Tony [Parker] was there for [three] years before me and he showed that he can play, so they have to play him. But they made it happen that I got traded, because they could still keep me and I would probably be sitting on the bench. So I was talking to coach Pop and he said, 'We'll find some solution together.' "
When the Timberwolves greeted Udrih by instantly waiving him, it looked like another example of how badly he had fallen since his promising rookie year. But neither Udrih nor his agent, Marc Cornstein, saw it that way. They were courted immediately by the Kings, who had considered drafting Udrih in 2004 before wisely using their No. 26 pick on Kevin Martin.
"We had had some conversations with San Antonio going back to last year at the trading deadline,'' Petrie said. "He's just a good spirit, always upbeat and pleasant to talk to. He's a dog lover too, and that's good in my book.''
In addition to his deep shooting, Udrih is a left-handed penetrator capable of driving and kicking out to the Kings' shooters. He'll be even more productive after the returns of Martin (who is out until January with a strained groin) and Bibby (or his replacement), as well as with continued playing time. As solid as Udrih has looked in a Kings uniform, he has been playing his way into shape after averaging just 12.1 minutes in 127 games over the previous two years. He missed training camp and the opening fortnight this season with a broken left index finger.
"Right now I can say that I'm in rhythm, but still I'm not used to the contact as much,'' he said. "I'm going to get used to it slowly, but I definitely think I can get better and better.''
How many teams could have benefited from Udrih, whose recent confinement in San Antonio was offset by three years of coaching in the NBA's top program? The club I've been hearing more than any other in this regard is the league-leading Celtics, who need a complement to second-year point guard Rajon Rondo. But the Celtics didn't have a chance, according to Cornstein.
"We talked seriously with two teams,'' said Cornstein, who confirms that the Nuggets -- also lacking a true point guard -- were the other option. While Denver would have needed to open roster room for Udrih, the Kings had an open starting spot waiting for him.
"Sacramento always was our first choice,'' Cornstein said. "There was so much opportunity with the Bibby injury, and they were a team that tried to trade for him before.'' Within 24 hours, he adds, the deal was done.
And the Celtics?
"Boston obviously is a team fighting for a championship right now, and I know [Celtics director of basketball operations Danny] Ainge is a big Rondo fan and believes in him a lot,'' Cornstein said. "So that was a different opportunity. I don't think any team in the league presented the immediate opportunity that Sacramento did. He is still the only healthy point guard on the team, and there was no other team in the league that presented a situation like that.''
Udrih will be an unrestricted free agent next summer, and if the bidding eclipses the Kings' mid-level exception (currently at $5.4 million), they may not be able to keep him.
"I was joking with Beno a couple of weeks ago that from Nov. 1 to Dec. 1, he literally went from the client I work with who plays the least to the client who plays the most,'' Cornstein said. "So who can predict the way any of that stuff works out.''
fact is, he is in a perfect situation when he came to sacramento. kings needed a point guard in a bad way. theus was able to make use of beno in a way pop could never have unless the spurs trade away parker, something that would never happen. let it go. he's wearing a different uniform now.
Who could have predicted this sentence two months ago?
Udrih will be an unrestricted free agent next summer, and if the bidding eclipses the Kings' mid-level exception (currently at $5.4 million), they may not be able to keep him.
and to think the number of teams in the league in desperate need of a true point guard right now. i won't be surprised if beno is offered a huge contract next season.
And the Rockets at the top of that list.
I have nothing to apologize for to you.
And one more thing about you defending Udrih.
Remind me not to hire you, if I'll need a lawyer some day.
Yeah, I knew you were just a in' bull ter picking fights for his homeboy.I have nothing to apologize for to you.
And one more thing about you defending Udrih.
Remind me not to hire you, if I'll need a lawyer some day.
It's my Beno!
He does look like he's in good shape. I thought his face was rounder than that.
Yeah, his laziness and all that tacos you were mentioning made him look like this.He does look like he's in good shape. I thought his face was rounder than that.
Find a single post I ever made about tacos, .
You mad?
Not particularly. Is that your mission? That would explain why you're in here trolling.
It looks like you wouldn't know what's my mission if I'd stamp it on your forehead.
Beno has played 35mpg for more than one month. He is clearly in a way better shape than before the training camp.He does look like he's in good shape. I thought his face was rounder than that.
until Beno shows the same kind of determination He's showing in Sacramento, in a playoffs type of team,I'll still think that He wasn't/isn't mentally ready for the NBA just yet,and that was the reazon why He left the Spurs,not because He can't play.
I reather have a strong minded not too skilled player(like J.V) tham a very skilled player Who is weak minded.
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