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Have to agree with the tenor of this article. It looks like Beno is a starting guard in the NBA. Pity he never found that part of himself while playing for the Spurs.
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People refuse to like Beno Udrih
Monday, December 17, 2007
The Spurs' apathy towards Beno Udrih was a bit puzzling. I can only assume Gregg Popovich's love/hate relationship with Beno Udrih began in a comedic sequence of misunderstandings, not unlike a Ben Stiller movie or any episode of Three's Company. Or maybe it's difficult to endear yourself to a guy named after a popular flatulence aid. We may never know.
After stringing together a series of respectable campaigns off the bench in 2004 and 2005, Gregg Popovich rewarded Beno with the opportunity to split his 12 minutes per with famous vegetarian and scrimmagin' dud Jacques Vaughn. The inevitable alcoholic depression led to Beno posting career lows in every conceivable statistic (even his technicals were down).
Beno's NBA career came to an apparent end when he was dealt to Minnesota for a protected second round pick (i.e. the Spurs and the Wolves agreed that trading Beno for a throwaway 2nd rounder was a bit of a gamble). Spurs fans rejoiced. Wolves GM Kevin McHale took a long look at the Marko Jaric-Sebastian Telfair tandem, concluded that there is nothing to improve on, and waived Udrih before his plane landed in Minneapolis.
Beno was sitting at home in Slovenia (we assume he was crying softly into his Laško or playing Bordunske Hero III on the Playstation, but we're probably wrong) when the Kings called. One month later, Beno is making minimum wage and posting stats nearly as good as that $13 million dollar Mike Bibby guy he replaced. Did I mention he was out of the league a month ago and is making the league minimum?
But our good friends at Sactown Royalty remain unimpressed. While they agree Benomania is making Mike Bibby expendable, they don't think he is the long-term solution at the point. I think this is a bit harsh. After all, Beno is giving them 15 ppg and 4 assists per while shooting 38% on threes, all without the benefit of a training camp, pre-season, or even knowing the King's offense. He's still young (25) and, as of Saturday, has only notched his 21st career start. If he doesn't improve one iota over the next five years, he's already light years ahead of the slugs teams are hanging their hats on this year (Earl Watson, Sebastian Telfair, Steve Blake, Rafer Alston, Anthony Johnson, Jason Williams, etc.).
Have to agree with the tenor of this article. It looks like Beno is a starting guard in the NBA. Pity he never found that part of himself while playing for the Spurs.
beno is NOT the answer.
That Beno belongs to the same family that the former spurs?
I didn't know that Beno had a brother
why didn't we select this brother instead of our Beno?
A couple of days old article about Beno :
http://www.boston.com/sports/basketb...achine/?page=2
Spurred on to new heights
By Peter May
Globe Staff / December 16, 2007
On Oct. 29, Beno Udrih was driving to his San Antonio home when he got a call from the Spurs' office. Could he please come back in because he had been traded to Minnesota? He came in, signed the paperwork, then headed home when his cellphone rang. Forget about Minnesota, his agent told him. He had just been waived. Two days later, he signed on with the Sacramento Kings and, with the absence of Mike Bibby (thumb injury), has been a huge addition.
"We knew he could play," coach Reggie Theus said. "He has done what I hoped he could do. He's been a pleasant surprise."
Udrih, of course, collected two rings in three years with the Spurs - "not too bad, huh?" he said - but was seeing less time as Tony Parker became a fixture at the point. It was a dilemma of sorts for the affable Slovenian - stay in San Antonio and collect playoff checks, possibly another ring, but also some bench sores, or go elsewhere and actually play. He chose the latter, and coach Gregg Popovich and general manager R.C. Buford did their best to accommodate him.
"I understand what Pop was going through and I am very grateful to him and the organization," Udrih said. "Pop was in a tough situation. He knew Tony better than me. He trusted Tony more than me. So, common sense, really, it was no decision for him."
Once waived by Minnesota (which already had a glut of point guards and got only some cash for the deal), Udrih said he had a couple of offers. The Kings swooped in quickly and he has been a mainstay in the Sacramento backcourt. He had a stretch where he scored in double figures in 13 of 14 games, including a season-high 27 points against his old team Nov. 26 in a Kings victory.
"Popovich told me he really kept him under his thumb," Theus said of Udrih. "He didn't allow him to get up and really do anything for him. That was a compliment. In other words, he was saying, 'He can play. I didn't give him a chance.' "
That can't be right. Theus must have some hidden reasons to make up this Pop's statments.
This is one of those situations where the coach (Pop) failed. I love Pop as our coach, but his job is to find a way to bring out the best in players. It's obvious that Beno can play at the NBA level but Pop wasted his time here.
Not a big problem. All coaches probably make similar mistakes in personnel decisions.
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NO! He didn't fail. His job is to make Spurs as good as it gets. He is paid by the Spurs, not by the players. He made his choices and decisions to make his team better. I would do the same. Beno got to show his game somewhere else and is up to him to show us if he can make it work.
Haters on this board are something completely different. They were and still are attacking Udrih for reasons that are not basketball related.
I miss Beno, but I am glad he is in Sacramento since he is doing well there.
Pop admitted that he might have handled the Beno-situation a little better. If Beno could keep up the numbers or even improve on them the rest of the year, he will be a hot commodity come summer time.
Why are we still talking about this guy?Oh, that's right - his delusional rationalizations for sucking are always entertaining."I understand what Pop was going through and I am very grateful to him and the organization," Udrih said. "Pop was in a tough situation. He knew Tony better than me. He trusted Tony more than me. So, common sense, really, it was no decision for him."
Beno who??
Somebody Else's Problem.
Beno is making league minimum on top of receiving the remainder of his contract. He actually made more by the transaction. It's not that difficult to understand. He did not play to his potential here. Some of his training/playing time was mishandled by Pop/the Spurs, but it doesn't negate the fact that when he was given opportunities, he failed to capitalize on them.
Good for him that he's doing well in Sac. Much luck to him, I'm still wholeheartedly glad he's gone.
Really sounds like the cancer some have painted him out to be- huh?"I understand what Pop was going through and I am very grateful to him and the organization," Udrih said. "Pop was in a tough situation. He knew Tony better than me. He trusted Tony more than me. So, common sense, really, it was no decision for him."
Pop truly regrets how things turned out with him and Beno. Pop really was excited about drafting him. Just a shame."Popovich told me he really kept him under his thumb," Theus said of Udrih. "He didn't allow him to get up and really do anything for him. That was a compliment. In other words, he was saying, 'He can play. I didn't give him a chance.' "
I have to say, your view is obstructed.
Because he found out how to play bball lately.
He always knew how to play basketball, he just never knew how to be a Spur.
Exactly.
"I understand what Pop was going through and I am very grateful to him and the organization," Udrih said. "Pop was in a tough situation. He knew Tony better than me. He trusted Tony more than me. So, common sense, really, it was no decision for him."
OK, Chump, read this last quote carefully. Especially this part:""He didn't allow him to get up and really do anything for him.""Popovich told me he really kept him under his thumb," Theus said of Udrih. "He didn't allow him to get up and really do anything for him. That was a compliment. In other words, he was saying, 'He can play. I didn't give him a chance.' "
So are you illiterate, blind or just plain stupid?
This quote says it all and this quote explains everything. HARD FACT is that Pop didn't let him develop (he admited that more than once). But Pop's task wasn't to let Udrih shines, his job was and still is to win games with Spurs. He went another way and he was successful with it. So he was right. Beno didn't get his real chance here so he is gone.
He is playing some good basketball in Sacto and Spurs didn't get anything for him in return (Oh yeah, a second rounder...that really looks like a brilliant job done by Spurs FO now huh?) - fact
When Udrih didn't get the time he was expecting he started to search for explanations. Sometimes he came up with stupid ones. But non of them was half as stupid as some reactions on this board. Yours included.
Last edited by sendman; 12-18-2007 at 04:20 PM.
You're an idiot who is as stupid as Beno when he puts himelf on the same level as Tony Parker.
HARD FACT.
Is this a pe ion?
Pe ion or not, I'll sign.
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Tony Parker
Career Season Averages
Year Team G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
01-02 SAS 77 72 29.4 0.419 0.323 0.675 0.4 2.1 2.6 4.3 1.2 0.1 1.96 2.20 9.2
02-03 SAS 82 82 33.8 0.464 0.337 0.755 0.4 2.2 2.6 5.3 0.9 0.1 2.41 2.10 15.5
03-04 SAS 75 75 34.4 0.447 0.312 0.702 0.6 2.6 3.2 5.5 0.8 0.1 2.39 2.00 14.7
04-05 SAS 80 80 34.2 0.482 0.276 0.650 0.6 3.1 3.7 6.1 1.2 0.1 2.69 2.10 16.6
05-06 SAS 80 80 33.9 0.548 0.306 0.707 0.5 2.8 3.3 5.8 1.0 0.1 3.11 2.00 18.9
06-07 SAS 77 77 32.5 0.520 0.395 0.783 0.4 2.8 3.2 5.5 1.1 0.1 2.48 1.80 18.6
07-08 SAS 21 21 34.3 0.504 0.269 0.720 0.5 3.0 3.5 6.8 0.8 0.2 2.57 1.20 20.1
Beno Udrih
SEASON AVERAGES
Season Team G GS MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
07-08 SAC 17 15 35.4 0.442 0.383 0.896 0.6 2.9 3.6 4.5 1.1 0.1 2.47 2.00 14.8
Compare the numbers, now when you can compare their playing time. Take into consideration that this is Udrih's first season as a starter on a team that even didn't see him at the training camp.
Buddy this are the official numbers. This are HARD FACTS. What have you to offer?
Denial will just make you look more stupid as time passes. Be a man about it and admit it. "I was wrong." It's not like you was wrong for the first time in your life. Or is it?
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