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  1. #26
    Unsigned #1 Draft Pick RonMexico's Avatar
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    According to the paper, D'Antoni is going to be playing Amare and Skinner at the same time more often out there.

    I've always said adversity in the season is good for a team, but man this is a lot of adversity. A loss to the Clips tonight would be fairly disappointing.

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    I think the Suns are fine. Sure, their defense is worse than usual ... but the same can be said for both the Spurs and the Mavs. In fact, both the Spurs and Mavs may be further away from having a championship level defense at this point because the Suns are still the best offensive team in the league and can outscore a team on any given night. The same can't really be said for the Spurs or Mavs.

    If Grant Hill stays healthy, I see no reason why they can't be tougher than last year. Sure, Kurt Thomas is gone but D'Antoni hated playing him anyways. At least Skinner is faster and I think D'Antoni would actually enjoy playing him ... if he'd ever give him a chance.

    The Suns offense could potentially be their best yet. They are leading the league in field goal percentage and that's with Bell and Diaw shooting poorly. Plus you can expect their three-point shooting to improve. Only Nash is shooting the ball well from downtown. Bell, Barbosa and Marion have a lot of room for improvement.

    I also don't like it that PJ Brown is still a free agent and hasn't officially retired. Brown is basically Kurt Thomas but taller and better defensive fundamentals. If he hooks up with the Suns at some point, their defense will improve overnight. Especially against Tim Duncan.

  3. #28
    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
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    to trade Thomas was the worst mistake the Suns made in the offseason.
    What difference? Duncan toyed with Thomas last playoffs

  4. #29
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    with the apparent stagnation of the suns and the mavs, the struggles of the rockets, the steady rise of the lakers and the jazz, excitement by the trailblazers and the hornets, and the hunger by the warriors.... the home stretch in the west will be one crazy ride.

    one thing's for sure...


    ........ its going to be one of a western playoffs come summertime.

    the spurs will keep its head above water and continue flying under the radar until then.
    the jazz have disappointed me, sure they had a lot of road games and a kind of but not really impressive win over the mavs last night, they have not been a western powerhouse that i predicted earlier this season. Just goes to show that teams will have struggles at some point or another...but the West definitely looks more exciting and open this year.

  5. #30
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    Talented big men the league over have been slamming Phoenix with big performances all season. Amare may be a worse defender now than he was when he entered the league.

  6. #31
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    The Suns are still a very scary team, IMO. As Timvp said, signing a PJ Brown could improve the interior D pretty quickly.

    I, for one, however, don't see how Grant Hill is going to stay healthy until the playoffs. He's already pushing himself close to his average season's worth of participation. So far so good for Grant, so for his sake let's hope his health continues.

    Amare is not the leaper he was before micro-fracture, but he's gotten better in other areas. I think he's somewhat alone on an island in the Suns' defensive schemes and so I don't look at him as being as weak defensively as some have made him out to be.

    It will all come down to three things for the Suns I think:
    1. Who they're matched up against in the playoffs...certain teams will never be able to keep up with the Suns.
    2. Getting stronger on D, especially in the paint...PJ Brown would be great Spurs/Jazz insurance.
    3. Keeping Grant Hill healthy. Grant's becoming one of the key cogs in the Suns offense and defense. He's potentially going to be their 3rd most valuable player by playoff time.

    I easily envision the Suns in the WCF. I think they should finish with one of the top 3 records in the West, however, minus Grant I don't see them getting out of round 1.

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  8. #33
    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
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    Is he groping a pregnant woman?

    And they call the Spurs dirty

  9. #34
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    What difference? Duncan toyed with Thomas last playoffs

    yeah, but thomas playing kept amare from fouling out. and thomas put up some offensive numbers too in that series. i can't see skinner contributing the same way.

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    I'll have to agree, but I've been ringing this bell of warning since Thomas was given away for a tidy pocketing of cash. In July I mentioned posted that I believed the Suns should still win the Pacific, but that it wouldn't be by a lot. I posted that they'd struggle to a finish of 54-to-58 wins. I liked both the Hill and Skinner signings, but felt the Suns offseason really screwed them in the immediate and longterm.

    I few weeks ago I argued to a few Spurs fans that they shouldn't write off the Suns just because they hadn't played anyone out West, but should rather wait until after Christmas. Well, it's now time to note the two wins (skidding Utah, parker-less San Antonio) vs. three losses (Dallas, Hornets and Lakers).

    Right now the Suns shooting isn't at the point where they can simply out-shoot its opponant to make up for its weaknesses any longer. It struggles on the boards nightly, struggles to make the promt defensive rotations often, gives up too much size in the paint, doesn't go deep enough and this is despite playing only seven to eight players for roughly 30-to-40 minutes a night.

    There's been no player development, which scares me when injuries strike. There's been very little attempt to address its size issues by either playing Skinner more, which would be smart regardless since he's not an issue on offense, or by acquiring a legit 7-footer. Nash is playing way too many minutes way too often and Hill, despite proving he is and will still be a player both for this and future seasons, is fastly wearing out, I fear. Amare doesn't look the same. Not even close. And while he's improved his shot blocking, it's come at the expense of his man-to-man focus. Marion has been consistant and up to snuff, but how long can he take playing 40 minutes a night? Barbosa has been great, but not to the point to make up for Bell's lackings. Diaw is a mystery nightly and even on good offensive nights, he's still a defensive liability.

    I still say they stave off the Lakers in the long run and win the Pacific, but it's going to be very difficult and will likely mean D'Antoni further exhausting Nash, Hill, Marion among others. I stick by my claim of 54-to-58 wins, but fear it is closer to 54-to-55 TOPS right now.

    I'd very much like to see this team take a risk and go after Artest. Diaw and the Atlanta pick may be tempting and if an expiring contract like Piatkowski is thrown in, it should work, if offered and accepted. He'd be very welcome and could provide depth at three positions, supply energy and hustle and could hopefully team up with Marion and Bell to lock-down the perimeter.

    While I suspected Utah would be the biggest threat to supplanting the Suns from the "big-3" of the West status, it may very well turn out to be the Lakers. They have the size, depth, leadership and coaching to do so. If Bynum keeps up his recent play and Kobe remains trusting of his young teammates, then I see no reason why they can't challenge for 52-to-57 wins.

    If the Suns don't win the Pacific, they may very well fall into the bottom half of the playoff seeds. That would likely doom them in the first round.
    To put it bluntly, fire D' Antoni's ass. That old geezer is so stubborn that he still doesn't realize that his team needs to play defense to win championships. He still sticks to his run & gun friggin' offense. Hire a coach who will instill defense on this team and only then can the boys from Arizona think of winning it all.

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    I say the Suns are likely just sleeping walking through the regular season just like the Mavs. Even though as a fan I hate it when teams are indifferent in the season but winning 67 games does not equal playoff success. Lets see how both teams play after All Star break.

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    i have to agree that the suns and the mavs are taking the route spurs are taking to get through the regular season.

  13. #38
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    yeah, but thomas playing kept amare from fouling out. and thomas put up some offensive numbers too in that series. i can't see skinner contributing the same way.
    good point

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    This video will make Suns fans feel better about their team

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=0ySJMkMHsJc

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    They may be too concerned with thier music careers (and no I'm not joking)...

    mms://phxsuns.wmod.llnwd.net/a205/o2...tmas_carol.wmv

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    This video will make Suns fans feel better about their team

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=0ySJMkMHsJc
    you are evil.

  17. #42
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    This video will make Suns fans feel better about their team

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=0ySJMkMHsJc

    Whoever took the time to make that video is a bigger loser than any of the Suns ever were.

    I love being hated this much.

    Its just jealousy, thats all.

  18. #43
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    Whoever took the time to make that video is a bigger loser than any of the Suns ever were.

    I love being hated this much.

    Its just jealousy, thats all.
    What? There's nothing to be jealous of.

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    I also don't like it that PJ Brown is still a free agent and hasn't officially retired. Brown is basically Kurt Thomas but taller and better defensive fundamentals. If he hooks up with the Suns at some point, their defense will improve overnight. Especially against Tim Duncan.
    Wouldn't that be a good guy for the Spurs to sign?

  20. #45
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    Wouldn't that be a good guy for the Spurs to sign?
    Don't have the money though.

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    The Spurs have averaged 59 victories in the three 82-game seasons they've won championships.

    The way Phoenix and Dallas are playing, they are more or less headed towards a 50-win game season.

    The Suns need to get rid of Roger Bell.

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    The Spurs have averaged 59 victories in the three 82-game seasons they've won championships.

    The way Phoenix and Dallas are playing, they are more or less headed towards a 50-win game season.

    The Suns need to get rid of Roger Bell.
    Raja Bell

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    Roger? Damn, you're good.

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    Roger? Damn, you're good.

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    Roger? Damn, you're good.
    Ignore SpursDynasty. He's just ing up the things he's supposed to up.

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