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    Murdering Prostitutes Findog's Avatar
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    OT and has nothing to do with this game, but why does Josh Howard always play only half a game? I read on article on his huge dropoff in stats from the 1st to the 2nd half. Mavs still too dependent on Dirk, not a good sign since teams are better at defending him now.
    Still trying to figure that one out myself. The Mavs always go to him early, he's always the #1 option in the first quarter, so maybe it's just a huge disparity because they over-rely on him in the first half.

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    Mavs still too dependent on Dirk, not a good sign since teams are better at defending him now.
    Well, they've been trying to not use him as predictably, since the Warriors simply denied him where he liked the ball best:

    http://www.mavsmoneyball.com/story/2008/2/11/23739/2689

    A subtle change to the Mavericks offense this year has been how Dirk has been positioned on offense. One of the keys to his MVP season was how the Mavericks offense ran picks and isolations for Dirk at the elbows and around the area of the free throw line. His incredible shooting touch over smaller defenders and ability to drive past bigger men led to his amazing season. Unfortunately, the consistency in the Mavs offense also made it easier to disrupt Dirk's game for aggressive defenses. Let's take a look at how the Mavs have made adjustments to Dirk's positioning to counter the "Golden State" defense.

    First of all, let's look at the offensive area from the free throw line to the elbows. Is this truly Dirk's comfort zone? Well, outside of layups and dunks, the single spot on the court where Dirk took the most attempts last season was the right elbow, and he made an amazing 51% of his shots from there. In fact, the whole zone from right elbow to left elbow accounted for over 1 out of every 4 shots Dirk took during the 2006-2007 season. With layups and dunks accounting for another 24% of his attempts, it wouldn't take a genius to come up with the following defensive scheme: Keep Dirk out of the free throw line extended area and keep him out of the paint. Doing so cuts out roughly the best 50% of Dirk's game.

    While this is a simplification, the above is what Golden State did last year by denying Dirk the entry pass at the elbow and doubling him when he did get the ball so he couldn't drive the lane.

    Fast forward to this year, and let's look at how the positioning of Dirk's shot attempts have changed. Learning from Golden State, a logical goal would be to move Dirk around the floor, varying his point of attack so that Golden State's defense would have been ineffective. We should also note that by asking more of Dirk, it is possible we would cut down on his effectiveness, but we would theoretically be okay with that if it led to our offense being tougher to shut down overall.

    So far this year, the area of attack that has seen the biggest drop in shot attempts has been--you guessed it--the free throw line extended, which is exactly as we would expect from a team learning from its mistakes. Overall, Dirk's attempts from this former comfort zone have dropped roughly 5%. Interestingly, the percentage of dunks and layups hasn't changed much (23.6% last year, 23.3% this year), which indicates this is more of a systemic change than Dirk being more aggressive at driving off the dribble.

    So where are those former shots from the elbow coming from? Interestingly, they are coming from the baseline. Dirk's shots from each baseline have gone up 5.3%, which accounts for the decrease from the elbow and more. In other words, Dirk's game is moving deeper into the half court, even though it is not necessarily moving him closer to the paint. This is a big indicator that Dirk hasn't been asked to develop a post game over the first half of the year--he was asked to work on varying his point of attack and improving his passing out of double teams.

    It will remain to be seen if this and other subtle changes to the Dallas offense will make them more formidable in the playoffs, but one thing can't be denied: The Mavs staff realized that part of the problem in the 2007 playoffs was Dirk's predictable game, and they are making changes to address that in 2008.

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    The Mavs best shot at adding somebody before the deadline is to get the original team to buy that player out, then the Mavs sign them to their full MLE to ease the original team's salary cap burden:

    http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/story/413486.html

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    I don't understand why you guys are always so down on the Mavericks? They beat the good teams, they are 15-10 against .500+ teams. Better than my Spurs' 11-14. They play defense and have a bunch of weapons. Devin is a lot to the Mavs, I can see that more now than ever. I don't think you guys should worry too much, I still (unfortunately) see the Mavs making it to the Western Conference Finals. The only questionable teams against them are the Lakers and the Spurs, IMO. They have weaknesses just like every other good team in the West.
    Well, mono has a very good point about how night and day it is with Devin out of the lineup. I think he means it as a slight against Devin, while I think he's having a breakout year and it's obvious how good he's become. The main thing is that throughout his career he has been injury-prone and our chances of doing something in the playoffs now hinge on his health from April to June.

    This team has had only a few stretches where it has looked like the team from the past two years, so I know they have it in them. It's easy to lose perspective over a loss like this when you're missing three starters and one of your top reserves. But I think one thing is made clear: we do need another scorer, or a backup for Devin if he gets injured again.

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    I say it's not as much how good Harris is as how bad Terry has become. Harris is needed for this team to have a chance. Terry should not be starting.

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    It would definitely be nice to make a move or something to get someone here like Mike Miller, Corey Maggette, Brevin Knight, or Sam Cassell. If we could make a move to get both Knight and Maggette, I would be happy as can be.

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    This team needs leadership. They obviously aren't getting that from Dirk. He's playing the "team player" card to a fault, and I'm starting to think that he just doesn't have it in him. 2006 was a flash in the pan, and we're never going to see that Dirk again.

    It's time to make a move. I don't give a flying that we didn't have Harris or Stackhouse or ing Dampier. If we have Dirk we should have a shot, especially against a team like Philadelphia.

    It's time for Mavs fans to wake up. Dirk is not a leader, Avery is a "rah-rah" coach who has little to offer as far as strategy, and this team is in SERIOUS TROUBLE. We're skating by on talent, but that won't work in the playoffs.

    Jason Kidd provides leadership and intelligence, and this team can rally around him. The pressure will be off Dirk completely. Avery can go back to his "rah-rah" ways (of which he is excellent at), and Kidd can run the offense. I realize Findog will continue to post his graphic showing the worst trade scenario possible, but a deal can be made for Kidd and it doesn't have to be that.

    It just depends. Do we want to go for a le this year, or are we content with getting our ass beat by the Lakers in the 2nd round?

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    How about...

    Clippers get - Ager, Fazekas, Terry, Jones, draft picks

    Mavericks get - Maggette, Cassell

    works too.

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    if you're giving away brandon bass, could we have him? we'll give you elson for him if you want.

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    if you're giving away brandon bass, could we have him? we'll give you elson for him if you want.
    haha, Bass was definitley one of the better FA steals this year. I always liked him back when he was in college and always wondered why he never played much in NO. I'm glad he finally got his chance. I see him as being a 10-15 ppg 8 rpg player in the years to come.

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    Harris, Dampier, George, & picks for Kidd works. They get a promising PG, expiring contract, and a true center. We get a player with some balls.

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    This team needs a shakeup. If they think they can turn it on during the playoffs, they will be sadly mistaken. Spurs can do it because they are proven winners and champions. Mavs are just confused. This is Avery's last chance. He will not be here next year if they fail again. I guarantee it.

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    Dude, STFU.

    Mavs are 34-17 and the 3rd seed even with all of the injuries this year. If there is anyone we need to trade it's you.

    Mav's lose in Finals against underdog Miami.
    Mav's exit first round to underdog Goldenstate after a 67 win season.
    Patriots lose to underdog Giants after going 18-0.

    Common factor: Mono as a fan.

    Do us a favor and go root for the Celtics.

  14. #39
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    Dude, STFU.

    Mavs are 34-17 and the 3rd seed even with all of the injuries this year. If there is anyone we need to trade it's you.

    Mav's lose in Finals against underdog Miami.
    Mav's exit first round to underdog Goldenstate after a 67 win season.
    Patriots lose to underdog Giants after going 18-0.

    Common factor: Mono as a fan.

    Do us a favor and go root for the Celtics.
    This guy really knows his sports. "all of the injuries"? oh you mean the injuries to Harris and Dampier and Stackhouse and every other ROLE PLAYER on the team.

    Are the Lakers saying "aw we are ED! Ronny Turiaf is gonna be out for two weeks!!!!! How in the can we expect to beat the Philadelphia 76ers without Ronny ing Turiaf??!?!?!?!?!?!?!" No.

    So take your weak about "injuries" and shove em right up your ing ass you idiot. Unless it's Dirk or Howard, injuries are no excuse.

    If getting raped by Detroit, New Jersey, & Philadelphia in a little over a week is good enough for you, then have fun in your pom-pom waving dumbass bliss. I expect a little better, as does any good Mavs fan out there.

    Do us all a favor and stick to making threads in the NFL forum that nobody cares about, it's what you do best.

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    This guy really knows his sports. "all of the injuries"? oh you mean the injuries to Harris and Dampier and Stackhouse and every other ROLE PLAYER on the team.

    Are the Lakers saying "aw we are ED! Ronny Turiaf is gonna be out for two weeks!!!!!" No.

    So take your weak about "injuries" and shove em right up your ing ass you idiot. Unless it's Dirk or Howard, injuries are no excuse.

    If getting raped by Detroit, New Jersey, & Philadelphia in a little over a week is good enough for you, then have fun in your pom-pom waving dumbass bliss. I expect a little better.
    Good point. No, the Lakers aren't saying and they have the EXACT SAME RECORD AS US. Do you see them whining like a big pussy over 34-17? Stop being such a cry baby. . Like I said, go jump on the the Boston Celtics bandwagon, you piece of . Go jinx them this year.

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    Good point. No, the Lakers aren't saying and they have the EXACT SAME RECORD AS US. Do you see them whining like a big pussy over 34-17?
    No, they just decided to make a trade for Pau Gasol. Nice one head.

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    Mavs need a center. Someone that can score in the post.

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    No, they just decided to make a trade for Pau Gasol. Nice one head.
    But you didn't see any fair-weather fans like you jumping ship before they made the trade. Dumbass.

    Jason Kidd is old as dirt and Nets want too much for him. Only way he's going to another team is after his contract expires with the Nets. But keep wishing away. Maybe if you keep crying enough it will come true.

    I wonder how swollen your face is after crying about the Pats loss, and now crying about this stupid . I thought you said you were done with sports for a while? Go away.

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    But you didn't see any fair-weather fans like you jumping ship before they made the trade. Dumbass.

    Jason Kidd is old as dirt and Nets want too much for him. Only way he's going to another team is after his contract expires with the Nets. But keep wishing away. Maybe if you keep crying enough it will come true.

    I wonder how swollen your face is after crying about the Pats loss, and now crying about this stupid . I thought you said you were done with sports for a while? Go away.
    Great analysis of the Mavs current situation. You really know your sports.

    Seriously, if you're going to show everybody that you're a for brains with no clue what the you're talking about, just do us all a favor and don't post here. Post at your pom-pom waving, take it up the ass from Dirk Mavs Forum where dissenting opinions are prohibited. Over there they'd love your "This team rulez!!!! I know nothing about what's going on, so I'll just talk about fans!!!! GO Devean George we could never trade that guy he rulez!!!!!"

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    Devin Harris isn't so great of a player that a championship-level team should ever be lost without him.

    I'm starting to drink the SpursDynasty Kool-Aid. The Mavs aren't true contenders, plain and simple. When you play with such low basketball IQ at all times, and insist on jacking up jumpers all night, you aren't a contender.

    So either we make some moves to put us into contender status, or just blow this team the up.
    agree 110%

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    But you didn't see any fair-weather fans like you jumping ship before they made the trade. Dumbass.
    Do you honestly think the Lakers thought they had a shot at a championship before that trade?

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    This is the same group that reached the 06 Finals and knocked of the Spurs on the way. The Mavs are contenders only if they listen to their coach. Avery Johnson is the only one who has one a championship in that group and he is the only tough guy on that team.

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    Great analysis of the Mavs current situation. You really know your sports.

    Seriously, if you're going to show everybody that you're a for brains with no clue what the you're talking about, just do us all a favor and don't post here. Post at your pom-pom waving, take it up the ass from Dirk Mavs Forum where dissenting opinions are prohibited. Over there they'd love your "This team rulez!!!! I know nothing about what's going on, so I'll just talk about fans!!!! GO Devean George we could never trade that guy he rulez!!!!!"
    I love how Mono always says "You know nothing about sports", followed by the stupidest -posts I've ever heard. You need to get that sand out of your vagina. Didn't you tell me I knew nothing about sports when I said that Giants have a shot a beating the Pats?

    I'll make you eat your words if the Mavs tear through the playoffs with this team without making trades just like I said I'd make you eat your words when the Giants beat the Pats.

  24. #49
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    Didn't you tell me I knew nothing about sports when I said that Giants have a shot a beating the Pats?
    No, I said that after you compared the one-and-done Cowboys to the Patriots. Again, you have no clue what the you're talking about.

    Again, great job backing up your take on the Mavs. Is -talking all you do? I love talking , but at least I can back my up with some informed opinions every so often. My entire posting history isn't just "Choke on a Spurs fans!" over and over.

    Now go get your ing shinebox and quit making an ass of yourself. The next time you have something worthwhile to say about the Mavericks will be the first time. And no, sorry, but "Dirk rulez! Damp rulez! We're the best ever like Romo! Eat SpursDynasty!" isn't worthwhile.

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    I love how Mono always says "You know nothing about sports", followed by the stupidest -posts I've ever heard.
    Didn't realize this forum was equipped with audio. Are you in re ed?

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