Video of the Derek Fisher disgust?

[LakeShow]

For whatever it's worth:

Moral victory?

The Warriors got some form of vindication from the league office regarding referee Bob Delaney's call in the final seconds of Monday's loss to the Los Angeles Lakers.

With four seconds left in overtime, Delaney called an offensive foul on the Warriors' Monta Ellis, who collided with the Lakers' Derek Fisher and fell to the floor before the ball was in-bounded. Kobe Bryant, who was intentionally fouled on the ensuing Lakers possession, then knocked down two free throws in a 123-119 Los Angeles victory.

Many, especially Warriors fans, thought if there was a foul at all, it was committed by Fisher. Stu Jackson, the NBA's executive vice president of basketball operations, agreed.

"We did review," Jackson said. "The call was incorrect. After looking at the play, the foul was on Fisher and not Ellis. It appeared that Fisher pulled Ellis down."

Jackson said the league informed the Warriors of its analysis. Delaney also was informed, though Jackson kept the discussions with the respected referee confidential.

http://www.contracostatimes.com/warr...nclick_check=1

Stu Jackson is an idiot! Tell us something that we didn't know. Why would you make a statement like that. Are you going to review ALL of the games and belittle other officials? This just opens the door for more Fix charges. Stupid, imo~

[hater]

I agree with Stu Jackson being an idiot

[FromWayDowntown]

Stu Jackson is an idiot! Tell us something that we didn't know. Why would you make a statement like that. Are you going to review ALL of the games and belittle other officials? This just opens the door for more Fix charges. Stupid, imo~

Actually, some might say it suggests the sort of transparency in the review of officials' calls that we were promised last summer in the wake of the Donaghy scandal. In virtually every other major sport, the league office will announce if a significant call in a particular game was made incorrectly -- the NFL, in particular, is famous for that.

I've said previously that I thought it should have been a no-call and that my quarrel with Delaney's call is that he was out of position to make the call that he made -- his call could have only been a guess. I'm not here to say that the Warriors got screwed, either. But I think it is actually some progress for the league to admit that an official made a mistake and to acknowledge that mistake publicly.

I'm not sure why this harkens fix charges -- it would seem to me to do just the opposite. Unless you're concerned that someone might think that Bob Delaney is fixing games for the Lakers.

[LakeShow]

Actually, some might say it suggests the sort of transparency in the review of officials' calls that we were promised last summer in the wake of the Donaghy scandal. In virtually every other major sport, the league office will announce if a significant call in a particular game was made incorrectly -- the NFL, in particular, is famous for that.

I've said previously that I thought it should have been a no-call and that my quarrel with Delaney's call is that he was out of position to make the call that he made -- his call could have only been a guess. I'm not here to say that the Warriors got screwed, either. But I think it is actually some progress for the league to admit that an official made a mistake and to acknowledge that mistake publicly.

I'm not sure why this harkens fix charges -- it would seem to me to do just the opposite. Unless you're concerned that someone might think that Bob Delaney is fixing games for the Lakers.

I hear you FWD, but my thinking is that we as fans all know that the officials makes mistakes sometimes and we accept that as part of the game. A bad or missed call in the 1st quarter can be just as devasting as one made in the 4th quarter. If he's going to go that route, what about Kobe being called for a foul on Baron because his face got in the way of Barons elbow? Just recently the suns were crying foul, is he going to give a statement on that game as well? I feel like he should have kept that in house. It was no need to make a statement opening up old wounds. Can you imagine the talk in GS now? Even though they were behind at the time of the call. It still did not assure a victory for GS. I too believe that it should have been a no-call but Fisher sold it and it was not an obvious foul by him at the time of the call. To me Jackson implies that Delaney made a call in the lakers favor and should not have. With the ref scandal last season I can see some, especially from GS claiming fix, warranted or not. I just don't see how this helps the league or the officials. But that is just my opinion.

[FromWayDowntown]

I hear you FWD, but my thinking is that we as fans all know that the officials makes mistakes sometimes and we accept that as part of the game. A bad or missed call in the 1st quarter can be just as devasting as one made in the 4th quarter. If he's going to go that route, what about Kobe being called for a foul on Baron because his face got in the way of Barons elbow? Just recently the suns were crying foul, is he going to give a statement on that game as well? I feel like he should have kept that in house. It was no need to make a statement opening up old wounds. Can you imagine the talk in GS now? Even though they were behind at the time of the call. It still did not assure a victory for GS. I too believe that it should have been a no-call but Fisher sold it and it was not an obvious foul by him at the time of the call. To me Jackson implies that Delaney made a call in the lakers favor and should not have. With the ref scandal last season I can see some, especially from GS claiming fix, warranted or not. I just don't see how this helps the league or the officials. But that is just my opinion.

I think this admission addresses a bigger problem of perception than anything else. To many fans, the Delaney call is a far more crucial call in determining the outcome of a game than a bad block/charge call in the middle of the second quarter. I'm not saying that's the reality -- good basketball minds know, as you say, that any call could prove to be critical -- but it's certainly a strong perception.

I think this call got the treatment it did because it occurred so late in a game that might be looked at as one that made a difference in the standings if GST ends up missing the playoffs by a game. I don't see there being any sinister implications to the fact that this admission was made or even to the fact that Delaney made the call.

Ultimately, what the league did is recognize that an official (one of its best officials) made a mistake in a big moment and that the mistake might have been costly to a team. If conspiracy theorists want to conclude that Delaney is fixing games for the Lakers based on that call, nothing in this admission is going to change that; in fact, I suspect that the very people that you're concerned about drawing such conclusions had already drawn that conclusion on Monday evening.

I also would be willing to guess that you'd see the objective merit to the league's decision if this hadn't been a call that favored the Lakers.

[LakeShow]

I think this admission addresses a bigger problem of perception than anything else. To many fans, the Delaney call is a far more crucial call in determining the outcome of a game than a bad block/charge call in the middle of the second quarter. I'm not saying that's the reality -- good basketball minds know, as you say, that any call could prove to be critical -- but it's certainly a strong perception.

I think this call got the treatment it did because it occurred so late in a game that might be looked at as one that made a difference in the standings if GST ends up missing the playoffs by a game. I don't see there being any sinister implications to the fact that this admission was made or even to the fact that Delaney made the call.

Ultimately, what the league did is recognize that an official (one of its best officials) made a mistake in a big moment and that the mistake might have been costly to a team. If conspiracy theorists want to conclude that Delaney is fixing games for the Lakers based on that call, nothing in this admission is going to change that; in fact, I suspect that the very people that you're concerned about drawing such conclusions had already drawn that conclusion on Monday evening.

I also would be willing to guess that you'd see the objective merit to the league's decision if this hadn't been a call that favored the Lakers.

I would just suck it up and move on to the next game. I personally don't cry over spilled milk. But I see your point and I respectfully disagree with the handling of the situation.

[Banzai]

[DazedAndConfused]

Derek Fisher should be SUSPENDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DaDakota]

They should overturn it then, put Ellis at the line with 4 seconds left on the clock and replay the final 4 seconds.

And, in order to stop all this flopping they need to start acessing technical fouls or suspending obvious offenders.

DD

[DazedAndConfused]

Derek Fisher Should Be Suspended!!!!!!!!!!!

[DaDakota]

Derek Fisher Should Be Suspended!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Jeff ! Here is a picture of your last fight, I hope they were able to reattach your nose...


DD

[DazedAndConfused]

They say he partially tore a tendon in his foot. I think he's gonna try and play through it though. He did play with a broken foot in the 2001 playoffs though so I don't know how much it will affect him.

If it does, you can just add him to our injured list. The good thing is we are running out of healthy players to get hurt!

[DazedAndConfused]

It's not like his defense can get any worse

[Obstructed_View]

Those video highlights on that site are awesome. Very well done.