Abortion a medium for art

[MannyIsGod]

Yea, all I do is think about ways to get the All Knowing Manny.

I posted the article with that in mind.

Dude, the world doesn't revolve around you.
Really, it doesn't.

I understand that it's hard for you to understand that, having gorilla sensibilities and all.

But, I don't blame that on you.
I blame your mother for ing that silver back gorilla.

You're just a product of that union.

LOL @ your mother jokes.

[midgetonadonkey]

I don't like how the quote boxes are darker than before.

[peewee's lovechild]

The two aren't mutually exclusive.

As both an art nerd and a strong supporter of reproductive justice, I respect her right to call this art and I respect her right to make her own decisions with regards to pregnancy and herbal abortions (which, before it's argued, is NOT to suggest that I support or respect the actual decisions that she has made).

As a woman, however, I'd be really curious as to the thought process that says it's okay to intentionally put her own body through that much stress. I had an unforced miscarriage several years ago and, even as someone who does not want kids, it was incredibly traumatic. Both physically and emotionally. I cannot fathom being able to do that intentionally and can't help but feel that there would need to be some real self-esteem issues involved for the self-preservation instinct not to kick in.

I don't consider it art.

And, I think giving it credence as art only encourages others to go to similar extremes to gain artistic fame.

[Sunshine]

She ing filmed her miscarriages??? And calls it ART?

Unbelievable.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

enough with the monkeying around in here.

[smeagol]

I guess her difinition of art is not the same as mine

[CuckingFunt]

I don't consider it art.

Well, duh.

And, I think giving it credence as art only encourages others to go to similar extremes to gain artistic fame.

I don't entirely disagree with that statement, but question the concept of "giving it credence as art." I don't think that's our decision to make.

[1369]

Does not approve.

/Knows it when he sees it

[Don Quixote]

She filmed her miscarriages??? And calls it ART?

Unbelievable.

Yes, unbelievable. This person has a low view of human life, apparently.

What if we were to put dead babies in this display? Or kids 4-5 years old in it?

[CuckingFunt]

What if we were to put dead babies in this display? Or kids 4-5 years old in it?

Completely different situations, as there would be legitimate legal questions as to where someone would have gotten the dead bodies. This girl's display is no doubt tasteless, but it's not illegal.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

What if we were to put dead babies in this display?

I'd definitely go see that exhibit.

[PEP]

Probably a hoax, if it isnt, I hope she uses a coat hanger each time.

[MannyIsGod]

I'd definitely go see that exhibit.

[Spurminator]

I don't consider it art.

And, I think giving it credence as art only encourages others to go to similar extremes to gain artistic fame.

I think it's more the national outrage and attention that encourage future exhibits of such art.

[midgetonadonkey]

Are the dark quote boxes annoying anyone else?

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

A little.

[MannyIsGod]

I find that the sigs being in every post is more annoying.

[Shelly]

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-...art-claim-scam

A hoax?

[Evan]

double

[Evan]

***UPDATE***
The New York Sun reports that Aliza Shvarts' artificial insemination and miscarriage art project is just "creative fiction." Yale University released a statement this afternoon:

[easjer]

"For the official university statement from the Yale University Office of Public Affairs regarding Ms. Shvarts’ work, please click here (http://www.yale.edu/opa/) or read below:


Statement by Helaine S. Klasky — Yale University, Spokesperson

New Haven, Conn. — April 17, 2008

Ms. Shvarts is engaged in performance art. Her art project includes visual representations, a press release and other narrative materials. She stated to three senior Yale University officials today, including two deans, that she did not impregnate herself and that she did not induce any miscarriages. The entire project is an art piece, a creative fiction designed to draw attention to the ambiguity surrounding form and function of a woman’s body.

She is an artist and has the right to express herself through performance art.

Had these acts been real, they would have violated basic ethical standards and raised serious mental and physical health concerns."

[Ronaldo McDonald]

I wonder if the guy(s) who gave her sperm knew what would happen.

[O-Factor]

Anyone who says this is art if a ing idiot. A ING IDIOT! Its stupid, its attention whorish. She's just a loony , no more, no less. There is no creativity, she's not creating something. This is stupider than the starving dog in the museum they called "art"

Paint me a picture or make me a pot, and then I'll be impressed.

[Don Quixote]

Anyone who says this is art if an idiot. Its stupid, its attention whorish. She's just a loony bee-yotch, no more, no less. There is no creativity, she's not creating something. This is stupider than the starving dog in the museum they called "art"

Paint me a picture or make me a pot, and then I'll be impressed.

Yes, I'm with this guy. If this were real, it wouldn't be art. It would be stupid, unethical, and looney.

It would also break some serious moral rules, rules that are no less real merely because they are unwritten.

[CuckingFunt]

Yes, I'm with this guy. If this were real, it wouldn't be art. It would be stupid, unethical, and looney.

It would also break some serious moral rules , rules that are no less real merely because they are unwritten.

And, yet, none of that would make it not art. Edouard Manet received the same reaction when he first exhibited his "Luncheon on the Grass," which is now considered to be one of the most important Realist paintings of the time.

I'm consistently amused by this notion that art can only be a pretty painting or sculpture. Art is often disturbing, or depressing, or unpleasant, or stupid, or unethical, or looney, or just plain bad.

As I said last time this argument came up, it's the artist that determines whether or not something is art; the viewer can only decide whether or not they like it. To suggest that something isn't art just because you don't like it is absurd.