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    A Head of the Game SpurCapita's Avatar
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    Sorry to make a thread about officiating in any way, shape, or form, but I was wondering what y'all's perceptions were on today's officiating. Personally, I didn't think it was so bad, especially considering it was against Phoenix and Bennett Salvatore's tweenage girl of a whistle was in the building. Now, though, I've seen a few here who are obviously upset about some of the calls, and I also just read this from Charlie Rosen's (yeah...him) article about the game:

    # According to my very unofficial count, the referees made one horrific call that favored the Spurs — a charge on Shaq when Oberto clearly flopped.

    # At the same time, the three blind mice favored the Suns with a total of eight blatantly botched calls. The most important being a clean block on Stoudemire that went into the books as a foul on TD and a pair of made free throws.
    What are y'all's thoughts?

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    The officiating was even both ways.

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    You should have seen the game in person. It was a joke. Call after bogus call went the Suns way and still the Spurs won. You also probably didn't see all of the cheap crap the Suns were doing on TV away from the ball. I will say this. Shaq us a true Sun now. He's starting to whine just like the rest of them.

    If the rest of the games ares called even the Suns are in serious trouble.

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    I think it was well-balanced. If we would have lost, I wouldn't have been complaining about the officiating.

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    I thought it was totally skewed to the Suns... you ing breathe on Amare and it's a foul, while the Spurs get mugged and nothing. I can't believe we won today with the way the calls were going.

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    Danny Crawford will be in tuesday to right the wrongs

    Hes doing the Rockets game tonight, so I'm assuming he does the game on tuesday.

    Maybe not.

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    The officiating was bad for the Suns and the Spurs.

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    Danny Crawford will be in tuesday to right the wrongs

    Hes doing the Rockets game tonight, so I'm assuming he does the game on tuesday.

    Maybe not.
    Or maybe Joey Crawford. I may be wrong but I don't think he worked any of today's games. As a road team he is the ref you want. He is pretty even in his calls and he does not get caught up with home cooking.

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    Or maybe Joey Crawford. I may be wrong but I don't think he worked any of today's games. As a road team he is the ref you want. He is pretty even in his calls and he does not get caught up with home cooking.
    And he hates Tim Duncan.

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    Suns got more calls even thought Spurs were the home team and were taking it to the hole. Seems pretty obvious to me that the NBA is favoring the Penis Nones.

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    Suns got the benefit of the calls, but the Spurs dug themselves into the big hole. I thought the two worst calls of the game were the foul on TD on Amare's shot where TD never touched him, and Shaq elbowing Manu in the face on the shot late in regulation in a 1 pt game that led to Boboso's layup. If called correctly the Spurs win in regulation without needing any big shots.

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    They need to assign a ref to specifically review replays of controversal calls...

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    They need to assign a ref to specifically review replays of controversal calls...
    They always review calls after every game. Whether they admit their mistakes publicly is another thing.

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    The most important being a clean block on Stoudemire that went into the books as a foul on TD and a pair of made free throws.
    That was the only blatantly bad call I saw.

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    The refs were pretty bad. Not surprising considering that sad state of affairs officiating in the NBA has been for some time now. Salvatore is so bad it isn't funny. He was responsible for a lot of bad calls on both ends of the floor but most of them went against us. Interesting that someone impartial to either team like Rosen would think so as well. The Duncan/Amare call was just hideous.

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    It was about as good of quality as you can expect. They let the players decide the game, for the most part.

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    I thought Tony Brothers was shaky at times during the game. I have no idea what Pop said to him in the 2nd Quarter (arguing a possession call) but I thought it seemed a little thin-skinned of him to T up Pop at that point.

    Callahan got pretty much everything right -- as usual. I didn't like the charge on Tim's drive into Nash, but it was pretty clearly the correct call and to the extent that it might have been iffy at all Callahan rewarded Duncan on the next possession for going aggressively at Diaw. I didn't understand the reasoning, either, on Callahan's call assessing a foul to Bell when Manu came over a Thomas screen and seemed to run directly into Kurt.

    Salvatore is Salvatore, but there's nothing new there.

    I did feel, at times, that the Spurs got dinged for some touch fouls and that they were having to earn fouls on the other end, but I think that's a product of the way the teams defend -- the Suns don't challenge every shot the way the Spurs do and, thus, the Spurs will get dinged for more ticky-tacky stuff in contesting shots.

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    I actually didn't think the game was that poorly officiated, I thought it's about as even as possible, but then I didn't catch the game until a few minutes left in the 3rd.

    The players were able to decide no the plays, and this is how the games should be called. Given that Salvatore was in it, and that it was only 1st round, couldn't complain too much, even if the Spurs lost.

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    The Suns got more beneficial calls, but that wasn't the problem.

    I thought the number of offensive fouls on both sides was atrocious. Both teams flopped and I'd like to see more non-calls from now on.

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    It was bad overall.

    Shack punching in Tonys face was pretty bad.

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    It was about as good of quality as you can expect. They let the players decide the game, for the most part.
    yes, winning at the line

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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    That was the only blatantly bad call I saw.
    You must have missed when Duncan was called for a charge on Nash, when he was called for a foul on either Shaq or Amare when he didn't actually touch anyone, when Amare changed his pivot foot twice and jumped into Timmy's chest, Parker's sixth foul, Shaq's sixth, seventh and eighth fouls, Amare throwing himself into Oberto's armpit to draw a foul.

    That's just off the top of my head. I've never watched a Spurs game before where I felt grateful that the Spurs got a whistle on an obvious call.

    That said, if the Spurs don't turn the ball over eight times in the first quarter and stop running offensive plays for Bruce to create his own shot with the clock winding down it's a complete non-issue.

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    Is traveling back to 4 or 5 steps in the NBA?
    I saw plenty, like Barbosos layup after the Manu glory shot attempt got stuffed by Snac. Mostly by Suns, especially Amare and his country line dance regular 3-4 steps, but by some Spurs also.
    Allegedly the NBA was going to clean that up.

    One obvious foul was late reg when Tim did an Iceman type roll layup. He drove the lane and banged into Fats who was clearly inside the arc with one foot. Should have been a +1.

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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    Is traveling back to 4 or 5 steps in the NBA?
    I saw plenty, like Barbosos layup after the Manu glory shot attempt got stuffed by Snac. Mostly by Suns, especially Amare and his country line dance regular 3-4 steps, but by some Spurs also.
    Allegedly the NBA was going to clean that up.
    They called it on Parker, what the are you complaining about?

    Seriously, I didn't see that much traveling. Parker and Amare both walked. If you wanted to see legendary traveling, you should have watched Scola last night. He got away with about four of them in a two minute stretch.

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    Get off it people. The Suns did not get all these extra calls like you all about every time the Spurs play a game. It always goes the other teams way even when your team wins. All you are trying to do is make your team sound better. Yes, they won, congrats, you're up 1-0, but the officiating was EXTREMELY fair the entire game, and the team that hit the late shots won.

    Some of you get so damn annoying with this officials talk, and it's always skewed in your favor. GET OFF IT!!!

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