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  1. #326
    Can't Start Threads Kill_Bill_Pana's Avatar
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    given what van gundy had outside of yao and t-mac, those were pretty much the only options. they sucked at basically every other position, and had to grind games out to win...
    Strange how same player sudden become better under Adelman. This "grind game out" is such stupid nonsense. Spurs have good defense and good offense and Rocket team with Adelman good defense and good offense but Rocket team with JVG have good defense and no offense.

    JVG is not good coach if he in all year as coach still not learn basic fact that ball must go in hoop to win game.

  2. #327
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    I will give this trade one more year but so far I think this trade was a disaster, all of you mavs fans know all I want is for us to succeed but this looks really bad. There is no way Cp3 eats Devin the way he eats J-kidd. Cp3 vs devin = 49% Fg and 7 assists, while Cp3 vs J-kidd is 59% Fg! and 9.5 assists. You can diss me all you want but it seems that this trade is looking pretty bad right now and stats are there to back it up.

  3. #328
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    I will give this trade one more year but so far I think this trade was a disaster, all of you mavs fans know all I want is for us to succeed but this looks really bad. There is no way Cp3 eats Devin the way he eats J-kidd. Cp3 vs devin = 49% Fg and 7 assists, while Cp3 vs J-kidd is 59% Fg! and 9.5 assists. You can diss me all you want but it seems that this trade is looking pretty bad right now and stats are there to back it up.
    Yeah man. I don't see how waiting one more year is going to help things. Kidd isn't going to get better. Harris and Diop were 2 very important intangible players. I guess the Front Office missed that. We overreacted to our loss to Golden State.

  4. #329
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    This trade is a disaster in m opinion, wtf?? Jason Kidd has been a huge disappointment in my book, while Devin Harris is beginning to blossom in new jersey(22 pts, 15 assts 2night). Let's just face the fact that J-kidd is mediocre and we got raped in this trade. We traded a young potential star, a strong defensive center, a defensive swingman, a youth who's career may go either way, two 1st round picks and 3 million for a guy who is currently averaging 8 pts and 9 assists. Does that sound wise to you? Its the kind of stupid that goes down in the Dallas Mavericks Organization. When I first heard the trade rumors I kept saying this was pretty stupid . The things that we really needed imo -

    1- A backup Point Guard that was a playmaker. This way Devin Could spend some time at the 2 spot.

    2- A change of the offense, most coaches can see the Mavericks offense was mostly Isolation plays and no movement. The offense should have been changed to a motion offense so that way it would be less stagnant. Also the fact that Devin is known for fancy passes and lobs in Nj proves my point. If his assist numbers have gone up on a weak team like the nets can you imagine what his assist numbers would have been for us if didn't run isolations all the time?!

    3- A shooting Guard. Eddie Jones is not the answer, Stack is too old to be the answer, Jet is too small be the answer. What they should have done also was to try and get a Sg that can take pressure off Dirk. People say Dirk is a choker but it is easy to "choke" when the defenses are designed to stop you and only you in crunch time. Jet, Stack and Dirk are the only people who can make big shots on this team. And don't even bring up Jason Kidd because his shooting is just plain horrible.

    Right now I'm very pissed off, I'll probably go check out Fireavery.com for any updates. Dallas Mavericks Front office =

    In some ways i agree with this

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    Yeah man. I don't see how waiting one more year is going to help things. Kidd isn't going to get better. Harris and Diop were 2 very important intangible players. I guess the Front Office missed that. We overreacted to our loss to Golden State.
    What we really should have done imo was to get a motion offense, get a decent Sg or Center and then get rid of Avery. But like I said I will still wait until next year and see maybe we can get some good players in the offseason.

  6. #331
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    Finally some Mav's fans are beginning to see the light. Will miracles ever cease.

  7. #332
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    Hiring Avery was a disaster.

  8. #333
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    Haha..yeah 16 to the Mav's zero
    The Celtics have been around twice as long. Dont bring up rings from 20 and 30 years ago. They're irrelevant to today. Its what you have done lately. Which is NOTHING for both dallas and boston.

  9. #334
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    I'll credit Finley for playing hard and his dedication in meaningless games but wish he came up big in more playoff games. I guess I'm bitter that we couldn't get more out of him when it mattered. The same can be said for Dirk though so yeah maybe I'm too harsh on Finley.
    Ill always love finley and everything he brought to this franchise and to the city of dallas. he was a main factor in turning this franchise around. People get sucked into stats to much. Look at Malik Rose's contract and statistics and most people would call him overpaid scrub, but ask any spur fan and they will love the guy for everything he did for that team and the SA community. Ill remember Fin for how he flipped this team upside down not how he flopped in the playoffs. Dirk can be pushed a little harder. He is the star of a winning mavs team and needs to step up and not get bullied by thugs like David West.

    Oh and if the mavs lose this series...cuban needs to can avery's ass.

  10. #335
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    Hiring Avery was a disaster.
    Disagree. I think he is a good coach. thats why he won coty in 05-06. I dont know if hes the right fit for the current mavs team. You cant always blame the coach. the majority of spur fans about pop but they get over it. i think its about getting the right players in place and the mavs just dont have it right now.

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    why are people blaming avery ?

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    I'll credit Finley for playing hard and his dedication in meaningless games but wish he came up big in more playoff games. I guess I'm bitter that we couldn't get more out of him when it mattered. The same can be said for Dirk though so yeah maybe I'm too harsh on Finley.
    Um, the game-winner in game 1 of the 03 WCF? Single-handedly dragging the Mavs from down 0-2 to beat Utah in 5?

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    Um, the game-winner in game 1 of the 03 WCF? Single-handedly dragging the Mavs from down 0-2 to beat Utah in 5?
    He's an idiot, pay no attention to him. No real Mavs fan would ever downplay Finley or his accomplishments. Spurs fans know all about Finley both before and after he put on the silver and black. Remember the way he ignited the comeback in G5 of the 03 Conference Finals?

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    rofl

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    What? The trade was a bad one? No......who says?

    Come on...it was so obvious....

    DD

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    What? The trade was a bad one? No......who says?

    Come on...it was so obvious....

    DD
    Hey! Look who it is!

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    He's an idiot, pay no attention to him. No real Mavs fan would ever downplay Finley or his accomplishments. Spurs fans know all about Finley both before and after he put on the silver and black. Remember the way he ignited the comeback in G5 of the 03 Conference Finals?
    Remember how he let T-Mac dominate him and played like crap in game 6 against the Suns or how he totally sucked against the Kings the whole series? Finley after 2003 was worthless for Dallas.

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    Remember how he let T-Mac dominate him and played like crap in game 6 against the Suns or how he totally sucked against the Kings the whole series? Finley after 2003 was worthless for Dallas.
    this statement makes you an "official piece of ".

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    this statement makes you an "official piece of ".
    You are officially a blind homer if you think differently.

  20. #345
    i hunt fenced animals clambake's Avatar
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    hard work and loyalty mean nothing to you.

  21. #346
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    hard work and loyalty mean nothing to you.
    Yeah he gets paid millions for that. I think the loyalty thing would change if he wasn't given such a big contract. Just saying I wouldn't turn it down. Why argue with a blind homer though? You aren't going to get anywhere.

  22. #347
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    they all get paid millions, you dumbass.

    you can't tell the difference between money and heart.

  23. #348
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    You are officially a blind homer if you think differently.
    You are officially a Bulls fan.

  24. #349
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    they all get paid millions, you dumbass.

    you can't tell the difference between money and heart.
    Yes and all should be playing with heart with all the money they get to do so. Is that too much to ask? Yeah I guess there are some idiots in the nba and Finley definitely isn't one of those but the objective is to play well in the big games. Sadly Finley wasn't able to do that with Dallas after 2003. Is that too hard to admit that he faultered?

  25. #350
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    You are officially a Bulls fan.
    You type with your heart and not your mind. That is your problem.

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