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    This might sound like blasphemy coming from a Spurs fan, but I think Dirk is arguably one of the most under appreciated players in the league.


    I know he won MVP last year, but I still feel like he doesn't get the respect that he deserves for his skills as a player (more so from the media and regular NBA fans).


    You can certainly make claims about his playoff success, but the dude just put up 32 and 17 tonight (his rebounding improvement is impressive) and can really take over a game.

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    Because he chokes 2-0 leads in the NBA Finals.

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    Because he chokes 2-0 leads in the NBA Finals.

    you gotta get there to choke there.

    what round do the suns usually roll over? (cuz it aint anywhere near the nba finals)

    my bet this year, 1st round.

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    This might sound like blasphemy coming from a Spurs fan, but I think Dirk is arguably one of the most under appreciated players in the league.


    I know he won MVP last year, but I still feel like he doesn't get the respect that he deserves for his skills as a player (more so from the media and regular NBA fans).


    You can certainly make claims about his playoff success, but the dude just put up 32 and 17 tonight (his rebounding improvement is impressive) and can really take over a game.
    You have been very consistent in defending him and yes you are right.
    The guy has been First Team NBA the last three years, MVP, and really deserved every single thing if not more. He has been one of the top 2-3 players in the league these last few years.

    Yet he is treated as if he is some secondary, role player trash. I will not understand why, but he is. Ginobili is foreign, Nash is white, so it's not just stereotype. Maybe it's because his game is unique, and goofy to a certain extent. But someone has to write an article about him on ESPN or something, and really explain what the guy has done. Hollinger and Stein are not enough, not when you have the Scoop Jacksons, Tim Leglers, Ric Buchers, Jemele Hills, Steven As of the world.

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    Because he chokes 2-0 leads in the NBA Finals.
    Oh yeah, he choked big time in game 5 and 6. Couldn't get a thing going. If he could somehow stopped Bennet Salvatore from making some of the most ridicolous calls in history he would not have been a "choker".

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    you gotta get there to choke there.

    what round do the suns usually roll over? (cuz it aint anywhere near the nba finals)

    my bet this year, 1st round.



    Right on the spot!

    I'd love to have Dirk in black and silver!

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    Because he chokes 2-0 leads in the NBA Finals.
    ask Tim Thomas about Dirk dropping 50 on his ass in the 2006 WCF


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    his game is unique, and goofy to a certain extent.


    lol, ya. he sometimes looks like nothing but arms and legs headed for the basket. but will admit, he can score the ball, and his d has actually gotten a little better under avery johnson.

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    lol, ya. he sometimes looks like nothing but arms and legs headed for the basket. but will admit, he can score the ball, and his d has actually gotten a little better under avery johnson.
    His d was getting better even during the Nellie days. What happened more than anything is that under Avery the roster also changed, and the Mavs are to a certain extent better at defending the perimeter than they were during the Nash, VanExel, Finley days. Dirk almost never struggles with big men anymore, it is the quicker guys that give him problems and the switching during pick and rolls. But I really think that Dirk's lack of D is more of a myth at this point. He is easily an average defender, if not more, and really hustles on D.

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    ask Tim Thomas about Dirk dropping 50 on his ass in the 2006 WCF



    Wow what a career highlight dropping 50 points on the defensive powerhouse that is the Suns.

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    Right on the spot!

    I'd love to have Dirk in black and silver!

    holy cow. timmy and dirk would be murder.

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    Right on the spot!

    I'd love to have Dirk in black and silver!
    If Dallas blows it up after this year, than there is no better place I'd like to see Dirk be in. Talk about a frontline, and talk about an international team.

    I don't know if a German and a French can coexist but they might give it a try.

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    Wow what a career highlight dropping 50 points on the defensive powerhouse that is the Suns.
    Yet the only other guy that has done that recently in the playoffs is Kobe. Not a bad category to be in.

    Plus given the stage, I think it was a pretty big statement, especially considering that he took over the game when the Mavs were down and about to lose control of the series.

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    32 points, 19 rebounds, 6 assists

    nice statline.

    Only way Dirk will get more appreciation is by playing like that more often in the playoffs, the GS series is the most recent and probably most dominant memory in most people's minds of Dirk, fair or not.

    Also against the Hornets, Dirk needs to really outplay West for the Mavs to even have a chance.

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    This might sound like blasphemy coming from a Spurs fan, but I think Dirk is arguably one of the most under appreciated players in the league.


    I know he won MVP last year, but I still feel like he doesn't get the respect that he deserves for his skills as a player (more so from the media and regular NBA fans).


    You can certainly make claims about his playoff success, but the dude just put up 32 and 17 tonight (his rebounding improvement is impressive) and can really take over a game.

    32 19 6 dimes and 2 blocks

    I just wish he'd get a fair shake. . . for instance T-Mac is a sympathetic figure in comparison.

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    32 points, 19 rebounds, 6 assists

    nice statline.

    Only way Dirk will get more appreciation is by playing like that more often in the playoffs, the GS series is the most recent and probably most dominant memory in most people's minds of Dirk, fair or not.

    Also against the Hornets, Dirk needs to really outplay West for the Mavs to even have a chance.
    But he has, that's the thing. Dirk has been fabulous throught this series too. Dirk has a history of saving the Mavs in the playoffs. Yet TMac gets more respect than he does.

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    holy cow. timmy and dirk would be murder.
    wishful thinking, but that'll extend the Spurs championship run, and will give Dirk his first or if he's lucky a few more rings after that.




    We can give Horry, Barry, and Finley back and any other person not named TIm, Manu or Tony.

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    Yea he deserves some more respect, but overall my answer to this question is kinda.

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    Short answer - yes, he is underappreciated.

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    Dirks consistent choking in big playoff games is not underappreciated.

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    Murdering Prostitutes Findog's Avatar
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    Dirks consistent choking in big playoff games is not underappreciated.
    America, eatin' my lunch from a single bowl in my parents basement, where I'm livin'. Happy Birthday, I'm forty-three.

    Don't want to waste those precious calories...chewin'. Jesus come move my jaw for me, help me get my sloppy food down my throat

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    This thread should bring out atx er..guys the biggest Dirk hater on the board. Which it's ok to dislike certain players but his Dirk hate has no actual basis, he just spews out his ass. Maybe it's racially motivated? Because "Dirk is a choker" is lame, played out, and is proven totally inaccurate, not a good reason at all. Yes, Dirk is underappreciated.

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    And don't pay attention to 21 Deuces, he's just a Laker troll. I actually have to give props to DazedandConfused, he's left his initial trolling behind for the most part and has brought some solid takes.

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    I am really impressed with the Spurs right now.

    OK, we can go back to Dirk

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    Dirk is the David Robinson of the Mavs.

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