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    32 19 6 dimes and 2 blocks

    I just wish he'd get a fair shake. . . for instance T-Mac is a sympathetic figure in comparison.
    God forbid the bull the media would spew out if Dirk scored 1 ing point in the 4th quarters in the first 2 games.

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    Dirk is one of my fav players to watch.

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    Dirk is one of my fav players to watch.
    I'm not pointing you out specifically, but I remember a time when spur fans in general hated Dirk's ing guts.

    Now he's getting all kind of love.

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    You have been very consistent in defending him and yes you are right.
    The guy has been First Team NBA the last three years, MVP, and really deserved every single thing if not more. He has been one of the top 2-3 players in the league these last few years.

    Yet he is treated as if he is some secondary, role player trash. I will not understand why, but he is. Ginobili is foreign, Nash is white, so it's not just stereotype. Maybe it's because his game is unique, and goofy to a certain extent. But someone has to write an article about him on ESPN or something, and really explain what the guy has done. Hollinger and Stein are not enough, not when you have the Scoop Jacksons, Tim Leglers, Ric Buchers, Jemele Hills, Steven As of the world.

    The choke label is a bit overused as well.

    During hte 06' ships, everyone and anyone who wasn't a blatant Heat homer or was just looking to diss the Mavs knows the Zebras gave Dwhistle that series.

    When other PLAYERS are on the record saying something is up (i.e. Tmac Houston radio interview), something is up.

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    I'm not pointing you out specifically, but I remember a time when spur fans in general hated Dirk's ing guts.

    Now he's getting all kind of love.
    When he torches us that's when I hate him, but as a fan of the game I love watching indivdual greats doing what they do best. I may have called Kobe when he was playing against us, but I've also loved watching him play against other teams, same with LBJ etc.....

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    I've predicted Mavs in 7 as well. LOL

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    But he has, that's the thing. Dirk has been fabulous throught this series too. Dirk has a history of saving the Mavs in the playoffs. Yet TMac gets more respect than he does.
    I don't know that that's necessarily true. A team with TMac as its best player has never made it out of the first round. A team with Dirk as its best player has won 8 series and gone to the Finals. I think TMac gets more sympathy because his story is seen as more tragic, but I don't know that he is considered better than Dirk. As much as Dirk has lost while being square in the spotlight, lots of guys would kill to have his career and level of success.

    There's plenty of legit criticism to be made of Dirk and his game, but some of the stuff that gets spewed in his direction is just totally irrational. I think it has to do with subconscious bias against Euro players defaulting to automatically being considered soft until proven otherwise. Also, Dirk's on-court demeanor is not that brash, in your face stuff that we see from American players that have grown up on the playgrounds and playing AAU ball and in prep tournament play. I don't think anything of that sequence with David West one way or the other, but it's just fascinating how people seized on that and talked it up the way they did.

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    Dirk is probably the most under-appreciated star player in the league... and now has become under rated.

    The dude just hung 32-19-6 in the biggest game of their season.... the last time anybody did that was Tim Duncan in 2003. He has come through so many times, yes in crunch situations... he is the reason the Spurs arent lining up their 4th championship in a ROW.... he dropped 50 on Pheonix in a game 6 eliminator... hes just been huge on alot of occassions... unfortunately he doesnt like to throw punches and get suspended from series for someone putting a hand on his cheek

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    As an NBA fan, I like Dirk but no.

    He had his fair share of media spotlight, praises, and attention back in 2006, and then
    and just got in a low ebb after the 2007 debacle, and because he was the face of the team, took the heat for it.
    He's still relatively young for a franchise player, so I don't think he's going to be underappreciated when he's still contending for years to come.
    He's got criticized and called-out last year but he's already bouncing back from that dark spell.
    Anyway, you guys are too mercurial to feel sorry for Dirk, he's fine and still respected as a premier player. He still considered one of the top 3 PF's in the league. It's Avery and his supporting cast that have taken the edge off of Dirk.

    And I don't agree that TMac "the second round" virgin gets more respect than Dirk does.

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    The choke label is a bit overused as well.

    During hte 06' ships, everyone and anyone who wasn't a blatant Heat homer or was just looking to diss the Mavs knows the Zebras gave Dwhistle that series.

    When other PLAYERS are on the record saying something is up (i.e. Tmac Houston radio interview), something is up.

    And not only that, he actually had good series. Not a San Antonio or Phoenix type, but the series were slower in pace as well. He had huge games 5 and 6. So people who call him out for that series really couldn't be any more wrong.

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    I don't know that that's necessarily true. A team with TMac as its best player has never made it out of the first round. A team with Dirk as its best player has won 8 series and gone to the Finals. I think TMac gets more sympathy because his story is seen as more tragic, but I don't know that he is considered better than Dirk. As much as Dirk has lost while being square in the spotlight, lots of guys would kill to have his career and level of success.
    There's plenty of legit criticism to be made of Dirk and his game, but some of the stuff that gets spewed in his direction is just totally irrational. I think it has to do with subconscious bias against Euro players defaulting to automatically being considered soft until proven otherwise. Also, Dirk's on-court demeanor is not that brash, in your face stuff that we see from American players that have grown up on the playgrounds and playing AAU ball and in prep tournament play. I don't think anything of that sequence with David West one way or the other, but it's just fascinating how people seized on that and talked it up the way they did.
    Maybe so, but yet it seems like I have read a lot of "it's not his fault stories on TMac". On the other hand, while Dirk is having a fabulous series against the Hornets (check the numbers), a guy like Tim Legler shows up and says Dallas fans should take it easy on AJ because it's Dirk's fault!!!!! We are one bad game from Dirk away from losing control of the series, and this guy blames the only player that has shown up.

    And it's true that Dirk has had a great career, and many players would love to have his career. The thing is though, that few people in the media or fans realize that short of winning a championship he has done everything possible. He is also probably the best player in international tournaments during the decade as well.

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    I don't think Dirk is underappreciated, in fact in my opinion is one of the most fairly-appreciated players on the league. He's a star and a great player but he's not in the same category as Duncan, Bryant, etc.
    Really think about it, he won one of the most controversial MVP awards ever, that's an award selected by the media, if he were so underappreciated he wouldn't have won it.

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    He is also probably the best player in international tournaments during the decade as well.
    Sorry but that's a big fat lie.

    You are forgetting Manu Ginobili, A.K.A:"the ultimate winner".

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    I remember how he hammered the Spain in Euro semi finals... 2 sec left, GER down by 1... Dirk over Garbajosa and someone else...boom! Spain cry

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    Sorry but that's a big fat lie.

    You are forgetting Manu Ginobili, A.K.A:"the ultimate winner".
    no

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    I just can't understand the Dirk Hate, the man competes hard in the playoffs and he usually has monster games but as soon as he has a bad game he is quickly destroyed by the media and called a choker by fans, last night Dirk had 32 points, 19 rebounds, 6 assists and 2 blocks. Of course Espn and the media will try their best to downplay his stats and they will wait for him to have a bad game and then the Dirk bashing will continue. The is ed up.

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    I just can't understand the Dirk Hate, the man competes hard in the playoffs and he usually has monster games but as soon as he has a bad game he is quickly destroyed by the media and called a choker by fans, last night Dirk had 32 points, 19 rebounds, 6 assists and 2 blocks. Of course Espn and the media will try their best to downplay his stats and they will wait for him to have a bad game and then the Dirk bashing will continue. The is ed up.
    Can you imagine the that would've broken loose if Dirk scored 7 points at home with his team down 0-2?

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    Sorry but that's a big fat lie.

    You are forgetting Manu Ginobili, A.K.A:"the ultimate winner".
    No!!!! I have watched every tournament since 01. Dirk has played in every tournament his team has played in, something that Manu has not done. He has also been in the Tournament's first team every time, something that Manu again hasn't done.

    Manu has the gold medal in Athens, but not the world championships. They really get that Indy Final out of their hands. I know Manu was hurt, but it's not like he has won every tournament.

    And before you saying that Dirk hasn't either, Germany has a team of amateurs while Argentina has one of the most talented teams on the planet outside of U.S

    Manu is arguably the most accomplished player in Fiba tournaments, but Dirk has been the absolute best. And not to rub it in because I love Manu, but Pau is probably second after Dirk.

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    Dirk is awesome...he does it all...if he ever joined the Spurs, the rest of the WC would cry...

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    No!!!! I have watched every tournament since 01. Dirk has played in every tournament his team has played in, something that Manu has not done. He has also been in the Tournament's first team every time, something that Manu again hasn't done.

    Manu has the gold medal in Athens, but not the world championships. They really get that Indy Final out of their hands. I know Manu was hurt, but it's not like he has won every tournament.

    And before you saying that Dirk hasn't either, Germany has a team of amateurs while Argentina has one of the most talented teams on the planet outside of U.S

    Manu is arguably the most accomplished player in Fiba tournaments, but Dirk has been the absolute best. And not to rub it in because I love Manu, but Pau is probably second after Dirk.
    Manu doesn't have the world championships 'cause like you said he got hurt in the semi-final (where he beat Germany and an invisible Dirk), what shows you just how important he's for Argentina.
    Besides Dirk doesn't have the world 'ship, the Olympics, the Euro-cup, nothing, so that's not something you can pull on your favour.
    People can't underrate the importance of winning, you can't call a player the best in something (much less in an extended time of 10 years) when that player hasn't won anything.
    I think that Dirk is a great player but not so great like many Mavs fans think.

    P.S: And yes, you're right Pau is the 2nd best player in internationals tournaments, 1-Manu 2-Pau.

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    Manu doesn't have the world championships 'cause like you said he got hurt in the semi-final (where he beat Germany and an invisible Dirk), what shows you just how important he's for Argentina.
    Besides Dirk doesn't have the world 'ship, the Olympics, the Euro-cup, nothing, so that's not something you can pull on your favour.
    People can't underrate the importance of winning, you can't call a player the best in something (much less in an extended time of 10 years) when that player hasn't won anything.
    I think that Dirk is a great player but not so great like many Mavs fans think.

    He's better than Manu.

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    He's better than Manu.
    Says who? you?

    If the both retire today Manu will be a lock for the HOF Dirk I don't think so.

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    Says who? you?

    If the both retire today Manu will be a lock for the HOF Dirk I don't think so.
    says anybody that's not a blind homer and has a lick of sense.

    and that maybe the other way around.

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    If I could pick a player on an NBA team between:

    Dirk
    Manu
    Tony Parker
    TMac
    Nash
    Matrix
    Pau
    CP3
    Boozer
    Peja
    Carmelo
    DWade

    I'd take Dirk

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    says anybody that's not a blind homer and has a lick of sense.

    and that maybe the other way around.
    Now who's the blind homer? go check the facts and get information 'bout the Basketball Hall of Fame.


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