What's Kobe got that Tony doesn't?

[BonnerDynasty]

lol @ this thread.

[whottt]

Oh...and for all you Lakerfans that think something special is about to happen...

Two words:

Bruce Bowen


Remember...you guys are the one saying live and die...not I.

[balli]

Two words:

Bruce Bowen

So we should be expecting something like this?

[td4mvp21]

I know that about whott, but then again, the way people around here suck TP off, you never know about everyone. Like I said, that whole Deron, Paul, Tony thread last night just blew my mind before it was deleted.

Well Parker is really, really good. And I think he's underrated by a lot of fans, the media, and analysts in general-that's with a 2007 Finals MVP under his belt. When you hear talk about top point guards in the league, you hardly ever hear Parker's name, and I think he is a top 5. However, he's behind 4 other great ones (Nash, Paul, Deron, and Kidd-in no particular order).

[balli]

Well Parker is really, really good. And I think he's underrated by a lot of fans, the media, and analysts in general-that's with a 2007 Finals MVP under his belt. When you hear talk about top point guards in the league, you hardly ever hear Parker's name, and I think he is a top 5. However, he's behind 4 other great ones (Nash, Paul, Deron, and Kidd-in no particular order).

Yeah. I didn't mean to sound like I was bashing him. Tony's pretty f'ing legit.

[CosmicCowboy]

Uhhh...Parker is really really good, but don't let this series go to your head...Put Steve Nash guarding Kobe one on one with no double teams like we have seen the last 3 games with Parker and they might have to put 4 digits on the scoreboard. You may hate Kobe but he is incredibly talented.

[1Parker1]

Well Parker is really, really good. And I think he's underrated by a lot of fans, the media, and analysts in general-that's with a 2007 Finals MVP under his belt. When you hear talk about top point guards in the league, you hardly ever hear Parker's name, and I think he is a top 5. However, he's behind 4 other great ones (Nash, Paul, Deron, and Kidd-in no particular order).

You think Kidd better than Parker as the top PG in the league? I bet Cuban would trade Kidd for Parker in a heartbeat. And I know Nash is a great PG, but you do realize Parker is absolutely owning him in this series right? And Parker has owned Nash every postseason they've matched up. He's part of the reason the Suns can't get past the Spurs.

[Warlord23]

The only similarity is that both have won 3 rings as the second weapon. However, what Parker did to the Suns yesterday was in part due to Phoenix's defensive shortcomings. Don't be surprised if Parker doesn't average 30 a game against a CP3 or Deron.

Kobe on the other hand can drop 50 on almost any opponent in the league. Yes he lacks consistency, but the sheer talent is sometimes overwhelming. Parker conforms more to the system and gets his shots within the offense and therefore cannot take over games against tougher opposition (he doesn't need to, but he wouldn't be able to do that consistently if demanded).

[Borosai]

Exactly. Allegations. Made by a girl who showed up for her sexual abuse exam with traces of six different dudes in her guts.

That's hot.

[romad_20]

Well Parker is really, really good. And I think he's underrated by a lot of fans, the media, and analysts in general-that's with a 2007 Finals MVP under his belt. When you hear talk about top point guards in the league, you hardly ever hear Parker's name, and I think he is a top 5. However, he's behind 4 other great ones (Nash, Paul, Deron, and Kidd-in no particular order).

He is ahead of Kidd right now. He has a much more realible jumper and is a one man fast break. No one is faster on the dribble right now than Tony. Maybe close to him, but not faster.

[td4mvp21]

You think Kidd better than Parker as the top PG in the league? I bet Cuban would trade Kidd for Parker in a heartbeat. And I know Nash is a great PG, but you do realize Parker is absolutely owning him in this series right? And Parker has owned Nash every postseason they've matched up. He's part of the reason the Suns can't get past the Spurs.

Now that you really ask, I'm not sure. The biased fan in me says yes, but I'm hoping that bias isn't overriding the facts.

[Kori Ellis]

You can't really compare Kobe to Tony. The size difference. Kobe's a more consistent shooter from 3/long range 2's. Kobe is the focal point of their offense. Tony is fortunate enough to have Tim/Manu.

I think Tony is damn good though.

Let's compare Tony to Nash at 25 years old.

Nash - 7.9 points, 5.5 assists, 31.7 mpg, 36.3% FG (the next year Nash was over 47% though).

[balli]

You think Kidd better than Parker as the top PG in the league? I bet Cuban would trade Kidd for Parker in a heartbeat. And I know Nash is a great PG, but you do realize Parker is absolutely owning him in this series right? And Parker has owned Nash every postseason they've matched up. He's part of the reason the Suns can't get past the Spurs.

Better than Kidd. Probably a push with Nash becasue his D sucks so bad, but their offensive games are so different that it's like comparing apples and oranges. No comparison to Paul & Deron.

[1Parker1]

How's this question; Is Ginobili the 2nd best shooting guard in the West behind Kobe? How about in the league? That makes more sense to compare....

[balli]

Nash - 7.9 points, 5.5 assists, 31.7 ppg, 36.3% FG (the next year Nash was over 47% though).

WTF? I had no idea Nash ever averaged 30+ ppg. Is that correct?

[td4mvp21]

WTF? I had no idea Nash ever averaged 30+ ppg. Is that correct?

I think that was a typo because she put 7.9 points before she typed 31 ppg.

[ForeignFan]

I think he is amonf the top 5 PG, but I only see CPaul and DWilliams above him, not Nash or Kidd anymore.
We will see how things go on if Spurs face NO.

[balli]

How's this question; Is Ginobili the 2nd best shooting guard in the West behind Kobe? How about in the league? That makes more sense to compare....

I think he's better than T-Mac.

[shelshor]

Kobe has a better PR agent and bigger and more endorsement deals

[Kori Ellis]

WTF? I had no idea Nash ever averaged 30+ ppg. Is that correct?

LOL it's mpg.

[balli]

I think that was a typo because she put 7.9 points before she typed 31 ppg.

Yeah, for a second there I thought I had lost a year of my life.

[romad_20]

Better than Kidd. Probably a push with Nash becasue his D sucks so bad, but their offensive games are so different that it's like comparing apples and oranges. No comparison to Paul & Deron.

I think Parker has more composure than those two, right now. Paul & Deron are great and probably fit into the traditional PG mold more. Also, Parker is badass with both hands around the rim, I would say better than both of them.

[ClingingMars]

TP has class...... Kobe doesn't.

[whottt]

I'll tell you what Tony's got that Kobe doesn't...a great relationship with his HOF All Time Great Bigman.


I'll tell you something else Tony's got that Kobe doesn't...a marquee playoff asswhupping of every great PG that he has ever faced in the post season in the course of a championship run(excluding Stephon Marbury of course)...

Kobe doesn't have that...he got owned by Rip Hamilton in the finals a couple of years ago for a championship. Flat out..OWNT.

[Kori Ellis]

Clinging Mars - Your signature is ing up the system for some reason. Did you change it today?